
smk4565
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1 million body on frame trucks and tanking car sales can't be good for CAFE. CTS down 50%, that hurts. It is sad that cars are sort of dying. You can see the day coming some of these slow selling sedans are dropped. And you'll walk into a showroom and there will be 5 crossovers and 1 sedan.
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Sales: Sales Figure Ticker: November 2015
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in 2015 Sales Archive
VW with all those diesels they can't sell is going to keep them down a while. Plus you probably had people buy it because it was diesel and not VW, so those buyers may just look elsewhere all together. This month shows how people want crossovers. That is bad news for brands like Dodge and Chrysler. You don't really need 2 sedan brands when a brand like Jeep is up 20%. Land Rover and Volvo up a ton because of new crossovers in their lineup.- 20 replies
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BMW News: BMW Is Close To Making A Final Decision on the i5
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Should be a sedan. They already have a box electric car. Unless extended i3 is another term for crossover. Because people want those crossovers. -
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
Hard to compare a turbo V6 to a N/A V8 for fuel economy when they are in different vehicles. There are a lot of variables there. You could probably pick and chose various engines in various cars that will beat others. But why use an N/A V8 when you can turbo it? Still a mystery to me as to why there is no Ecoboost V8.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
First off those that say a turbo V6 is better than a V8, would they like the Corvette to lose the LT1 V8 and offer a twin turbo V6 in stead and make the Z06 the only V8 Corvette offered? Second. Who says it has to be an N/A V8 in the Lincoln. Ford makes 1.6 and 2.0 liter turbo 4's. Why couldn't they make a 3.2 or 4.0 ecoboost V8?- 171 replies
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I wonder how long the Savana and Express will last anyway. They are like 20 year old designs and the Euro-style vans are taking over. The Promaster is a bad vehicle luckily. But I wonder if GM could allocate that whole factory to pick ups, and build a new van off a new platform some place else.
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Lincoln News: Lincoln's Primary Focus: Core Segments
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
You can't be a luxury brand without rear wheel drive and a V8. It is that simple. (Tesla is rear drive and has 500-700 hp, electricity is the exception) I never said Lincoln had to offer a V8 cheap. Charge $85k for it for a rear drive V8 Lincoln for all I care, at least they would have an interesting product. I originally said the Continental being a front drive chassis car, even with a turbo v6 and all wheel drive will have to be priced cheap to sell. You can put as nice an interior as you want in these Lincolns, they still drive like Fords. Acura is in the same situation, that is why Lincoln and Acura struggle selling sedans over $45k. RLX and MKS sales are proof of that. I think this idea of the V8 is so expensive is ridiculous. Ford and Chevy can put V8s into Camaros and Mustangs for $35,000. Chrysler/Dodge do it also with their sedans. So in Cadillac's case, they could put a V8 in more cars, they choose not to. In Lincoln's case, they don't have the platform for it. Without a real platform Lincoln will never be anything. Trying to make front drive Lincolns compete with real luxury cars would be like building the Mustang on a Fusion platform, and putting a twin turbo V6 in with torque vectoring awd. You could still get 400 hp in the car and put it on the ground, but a fwd chassis Mustang is not going to compete with a rear drive Camaro. Just like these Lincolns won't compete with Cadillac, Lexus, the Germans, Jaguar, etc.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
I also originally said most luxury cars "offer" a V8, at the mid-size level. The mid size Infiniti is Q70, that has a V8, Lexus GS-F, the AMG, M, Audi S models, Jaguar XF-R, Hyundai Genesis, and CTS-V as well. Acura, Lincoln and Volvo do not, look at their status. And I am all for the turbo V6 argument to replace the V8, or turbo 4 to replace a V6. But then why is there no turbo V6 in a Silverado or Tahoe, GM still puts V8s in those.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
Cadillac offers a V8 in the mid-size CTS-V for the low 90s. MB only offers a V8 in the mid size E-Class when you fork over $100K for the privilege. Not sure what you are trying to prove here based on that simple fact. Unless you get an E550 coupe or convertible which are $60-65k with a V8. I am not saying the V8 cars are value, but that other luxury makers offer them. Luxury brands are supposed to offer the best and supposed to offer excess. CT6 has no V8 when that the common engine for the large sedan segment. A turbo V6 is plenty for most, but I still think luxury and sports cars need that aspirational product too. You don't see a turbo 4 or turbo v6 in a Corvette, even though it would make for adequate performance, because they know buyers want the most power they can get and will pay a premium for it. I mentioned the V8 about the Continental. The MKZ is bigger than an E-class or 5-series, the same length as an Infiniti Q70. The Continental will be as big as an LS460, K900, Genesis/Equus/G90 and those are V8 cars. Oncblu is 100% right about the primary Focus. You know it is coming eventually. A Lincoln Explorer would have higher margins so they'll do that first.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
Most luxury cars offer a V8, even at the mid-size range, especially at the full size. It is Lincoln and Cadillac that for some reason don't want to. It will be interesting to see the final product and pricing for the Continental. And speaking of core segments, where is the small Lincoln luxury car? The MKZ is 194 inches long, that is bigger than a 5-series, and a lot of people complain the 5-series is too big and bloated now.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
If the Continental was a real luxury car, they'd have the 5.0 liter V8 or the 5.2 liter flat plane crank V8 in there.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
I don't think there will ever be a turbocharged LaCrosse, nor should there be. 300 hp is plenty for a front drive vehicle, even if you do route it through an AWD system. And for the demographic of that car, 300 hp is plenty. People that want a 400 hp performance car will go to CTS or an Import. This is Lincoln's problem though, they don't have the ride/handling of other cars because of the chassis, they can't put huge power in because of the chassis. So all Lincoln has is interior to sell on. And I doubt the Continental will be an S-class or A8 level interior. Probably won't even be Mercedes C-class level. Which you can get a C450 that does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and has the AMG 33/67 split and system for $50k, and $60k optioned up.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
I mean a 300 hp engine on Continental. A 300 hp Continental could sell for around $44,000. A 400 hp twin turbo V6 Black label for $49,995. That's how I'd price them. Because it is basically just a fancier Buick LaCrosse.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
Watch them nickel and dime the Continental to keep the price competitive, then they'll offer $5,000 cash back on it and fleet sale it to blow through inventory and not rebuild the brand and not make money anyway. No one has been successful selling a front wheel sedan over $50k. This is why XTS, Acura RLX and Volvo S80/S90 have been high $40s with awd. I don't think anyone is paying over $50k for a Continental.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
I originally thought there should be a 300 HP base engine at $45k and options,but I think everything should be standard for $49,995. Every available option from an MKX or Navigator should be standard on Continental. So the fully loaded price would also be $49,995.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to El Kabong's topic in Industry News
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
I picked the Escalade and Navigator as examples. But let's say they use the Continental concept interior and 400 HP v6 base, I think $49,995 needs to be the price with destination charge. Lincoln needs a splash. They are using a front drive platform so already they are behind all the other luxury cars in ride and handling. They need to produce the best American car interior ever with ridiculously aggressive pricing.- 171 replies
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I would agree with Drew's point that Zeta wasn't worth bench marking and that the bench marking process would have been 3 years ago. Ford in 2012 wouldn't have known what the 2016 Camaro would be. I'd also add this. If Ford in their mind felt the Mustang was the best car in the segment, why would they benchmark someone else? I am not saying I think the Mustang is the best car, but if Ford thought it was, they are going to benchmark themselves. For Example, you don't hear BMW saying we benchmarked the IS350 or G37 when designing a 3-series. The 3-Series is the gold standard, they can only advance their own design, and would not benchmark a lesser product.
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
Lexus spent $1 billion in 1980s money to develop the LS, and they sold it at half the price of an S-class. It wasn't as good as an S-class, but it was close and far better than what Cadillac or Lincoln had in 1991. I am sure Lexus was losing money on every LS sold but they built the brand on it and look how by 2000 they had dethroned Cadillac and Lincoln. Lincoln is in bad shape, even if they lose $10,000 on every Continental and sell 40,000 a year it is $400,000,000 loss. That could be the cost of jump starting the Lincoln brand and making it relevant again. $100 million per quarter won't sink Ford, and they will spend billions in product development and advertising anyway. Cadillac isn't knocking on death's door. Cadillac also has far superior product to Lincoln. So Cadillac can undercut Lexus and the Germans slightly in price and try to compete that way to make up for image.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to El Kabong's topic in Industry News
Breitling needs to hire another clock maker. 4 people a year that buy that clock will want one in their Mulsanne as well. Mercedes needs a Maybach GLS with a V12 asap so we can have a comparison test. -
Cadillac News: New Compact Crossover From Cadillac Coming In 2018
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Cadillac
For a company in bankruptcy, or coming out of it, wouldn't you want to get the highest profit margin vehicles to market first? Yet look at the products they did in 2011-2013, like Regal, Volt, Impala, Malibu, Cruze, Verano. Those should have taken a back seat to pumping products into Cadillac. Let's use VW as an example. If they filed Bankruptcy in 2009, they could have put a 5 year freeze on VW product launches had Jetta and Passat sales drop to zero and it wouldn't matter because the luxury brands would make the money and save the company.- 45 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Cadillac
BMW, Audi and Cadillac are all around $52k ATP. That isn't Cadillac's problem. The problem is having one crossover and crossovers didn't becomenhot last year. GM more than anyone relies on trucks and SUVs, you'd think they would have had more Cadillac product in the works. This sort of ties in with lacknof coupes for a while, XLR being the only convertible in the past 20 years, etc. Cadillac doesn't have the product they need. And that is mind boggling. VW makes 80% of its profit on luxury brands that are less than 20% of their total volume.- 45 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
If I were Lincoln I would make sure the Continaltal was nicer (more luxurious) than a Navigator (nicer than an Escalde even) and price it around $45,000. I would want to sell the crap out of it because people buy what other people buy. The Lexus RX sells because it is popular. Suzy Mcmansion bought one, therefore Suzy SoccerMom must buy one. If they can make the Continental a hot car they can revive the brand. I would make customers realize for the price of an RX350 you can get a flagship sedan and make it too good an offer to pass up. And I would be happy to lose money on every car sold to rebuild the brand.- 171 replies
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smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
I agree with Drew. The Town Car was well past its prime, but they should have had the Continental ready to go 5 years ago when the cancelled the Town Car. You can get a 400 HP all wheel drive car from Lexus, Mercedes, Audi, Jaguar, BMW, Infiniti, Cadillac, etc. Basically Acura and Lincoln are just 5-10 years late. Hybrids and diesels have been around too. Lincoln isn't doing anything the other guys didn't do 5-10 years ago.- 171 replies
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