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  1. The C63 S sedan was the only one they had tested, the old C63 black series was actually faster (2:58.0) but that was a 2012 car, not really relevant now. Everything else on the list I posted is current generation. The 2014 Mercedes SL63 ran a 2:59.1 and has had a refresh since then. For a convertible that is really fast. When the Camaro gets 4 doors then it can compete with the C63. The C63 beats the M3 and ATS-V, its direct competitors. If you look at all around car, not just lap time, look at refinement, rear seat room, luxury features, interior, etc, and compare a C63 to a Camaro and they aren't in the same league. If your sole purpose for buying a car is going on track days, then the Camaro 1LE is the way to go. The C8 isn't going to be close to Project One, I think you don't realize how fast Project One is. A Koenigsegg One:1 with a 3,000 lb weight and 1,340 hp does 0-200 kph in 6.6 seconds. The Project One is nearly a second faster than that. And Project One is designed for corners, not straight line or top speed. And Project One can travel on battery alone for 15 miles. If Chevy racing is so great, there is a spot in Formula 1, they could even take over Sauber or Haas and go from there. Bring it on, I would love to see more people challenge Mercedes.
  2. Car and Driver Lighting Lap times from this month's issue: 2016 Cadillac ATS-V sedan: 2:59.8 2015 Mercedes C63 sedan: 2:59.2 2017 Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio 2:58.6 2016 Cadillac CTS-V: 2:56.8 2018 Mercedes-AMG E63 S: 2:55.4 (fastest sedan ever recorded) 2018 Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE: 2:45.7 2015 Corvette Z06: 2:44.6 2018 Mercedes-AMG GT R: 2:43.4 2015 Porsche 918 Spyder 2:43.1 seconds (all time record holder) The fastest AMG coupe beats the fastest Camaro and fastest Corvette ever. And it doesn't end there, Mercedes has Project One! 0-200 kph acceleration times: Camaro ZL1: 13.1 seconds C7 Corvette Z06: 10.2 seconds Porsche 911 Turbo S 9.3 seconds Ferarri LaFerrari 6.9 seconds Bugatti Chiron 6.5 seconds Project One < 6 seconds See the gap?
  3. Never can have too many CUVs, might as well bring it over. They could use something below Sportage for sure.
  4. How are they getting spanked by Camaros and Mustangs? First off the Camaro and Mustang aren't luxury cars. So they aren't really that comparable. Look at the interior and luxury feature list on a C-class vs a Camaro, not even close. Secondly a C63 out performs a Camaro SS in some ways, can't match a 1LE, but then again the C-class is a luxury sedan first, not a sports car. AMG makes the GT if you want a hardcore sports car. Agreed, AMG does have performance SUVs, something you can't find at GM, and something Cadillac should have. And it is good that cars like the 4 cylinder Camaro, the Miata, Golf GTI, WRX, etc exist because they have fun to drive at an affordable price. An AMG car or Porsche is out of reach for the masses. Here is a question, is the Chevrolet brand getting diluted but the Sonic and Spark? Is Chevy losing Corvette sales because they sell sub compact bottom feeders like that and perennial rental car Malibus in the same dealer? I always hear Mercedes haters saying CLA kills the brand, but never complain about a $100,000 Corvette next to a $13,000 Spark and a $19,000 City Express rebadged Nissan at the same dealership.
  5. Bring it on, I'll put a Mercedes interior next to Jeep any day. I imagine a new X5 M should show up in a couple years, and Land Rover has their SVR's so there is some competition for performance utility. All the profits from that Grand Cherokee Trackhawk go back to Italy so Sergio can make more Alfas. Just so he can spin Alfa off as it's own company and take his golden parachute.
  6. At least someone is giving AMG competition in SUVs. I never was a Cayenne fan, always seemed to have odd styling to me.
  7. Few things since I don't want to quote everyone. On Corvette interiors, remember them the XLR came out with a better than Corvette interior and fell flat on its face vs Jaguar and Mercedes and whatever else they tried to compete with? The C6 had a worse interior than the XLR and the XLR didn't make it against luxury brands. I think the C7 interior is fine for the $60-90k range when you get over $100k I think it is out of steam. Think of it this way, is the Corvette interior better than a CT6 Platinum? Because the top end buyers in the $100-200k range will demand more than CT6 luxury combined with high level performance.
  8. I agree with this. There is good value in the Corvette at the low end because you are buying performance and not a luxury car. At $100k or more you have added performance only usable on a race track and now you still have an interior that was acceptable at $60k but isn't worth $100k.
  9. I get that GM has a few really strong performance cars but Cadillac has ATS and CTS V. 3 V models, the C-class alone has 3 AMG 63 models. Where are the V-series crossovers? What if someone wants Corvette performance with an luxury above Escalade Platinum? I am all for a turbo 4 Camaro and $30k sports cars because that is where the bulk of car buyers are Chevey needs to hit the mainstream segments hard. Cadillac V series can't beat Chevy right now, perhaps a reason their cars don't sell, among many others. AMG proves with this car there is no limit as to where they will go. BMW and Audi probably won't do a hyper car, we know Cadillac and Lincoln won't so if you want luxury performance, there is a clear choice. Even the M division is fading.
  10. I read all that, I get it. I am not saying limit the Camaro per se, but why would you spend the money on Camaro 1LE and let the Cadillacs sit there and rot. Cadillac should get the most advanced, best stuff, then the Camaro should get it 4-5 years later when Cadillac gets something new and passes it down to the Camaro. Likewise with Corvette.
  11. I'll correct my statement then, Camaro with bad interior and performance, Corvette with average interior and performance. The Corvette has long been plagued by interior issues for like the past 30 years. Which is why I also have long said Cadillac needs a sports car above the Corvette. The Corvette's interior isn't worth $100-150k, at $50-100k with big V8 performance sure. But for those that want a luxury car and a sports car, Cadillac has to do that.
  12. Again the CLA? It is the #1 talked about car on C&G since 2013, so they must be doing something right. I am fine with the CLA performance because it is probably the fastest fwd based car in the world, they did up it from 355 hp to 375, and I think the next generation is 400. But is plenty fast for an entry level car. It doesn't need to be faster, they have the C63 coupe, sedan, convertible , E63 sedan and wagon, CLS63, S63/S65 sedan, coupe, convertible, SL63, SL65, GT, and Project One. That is like a dozen cars above CLA45. The CLA is slower and cheaper than those cars for a reason, hierarchy. The Camaro is the entry level GM sports car, yet it in top trim it is faster than the Corvette, ATS-V and CTS-V. Shouldn't the high performance be going toward Cadillac and Corvette?
  13. China and Europe seem pretty set on this in the 2030-2040 timeframe. If China says no gas cars, auto makers aren't going to spend money to develop new gas cars. They will start just making EV's since China has the biggest market, and Europe has a huge market too. I welcome the change, and I hope we gets lots of good EV's to pick from. I would rather have an electric car that has instant torque and no pollution.
  14. The insurance companies pain will be the auto makers gain. There have to be tens of thousands of destroyed cars in Florida and Texas right now. But you do have to look at replacement value and how much people will get, a lot of people take out 6-7 year car loans so the car depreciates much faster than it is getting paid off. That could be a problem for a lot of people. Then you have to think too, if your house just got flooded or had the roof ripped off, buying a new car isn't really the highest priority, but in time as people rebuild car sales will pick up for sure.
  15. Sounds like you pay more for less drive wheels. They learned that trick from their cousins over at Porsche who charge you $20,000 to remove the rear seats, carpets and speakers.
  16. The Camaro 1LE is quite a performance achievement for the price and the fact that it has a back seat, although the Nissan GT-R does too. They basically made a cheaper GT-R, similar size and performance. And the GT-R even though a bit dated now is still a really strong performer on a track, evidenced by the NISMO version doing the 'Ring in 7:08. It makes me wonder why the Camaro 1LE engine, suspension, brakes, etc wasn't put on the ATS-V. Why would they want a Chevy that out performs a Cadillac? The 1LE Camaro is actually faster around a track than the Corvette Z06, so obviously there is some serious mechanicals on board. But why push the Camaro above Corvette and Cadillac, doesn't make sense. The Mercedes F1 engine could be making over 670 hp here. All Mercedes has said is this car makes over 1,000 hp, they didn't give any exact figures, we'll have to wait for some dyno results or something. But the powertrain is so efficient in how it recaptures heat and kinetic energy, it is unlike anything in a production car.
  17. F1 is still the highest form of motor sport, it is expensive though, that is probably why BMW and Audi aren't there, combined with they don't want to lose to Mercedes. F1 has new ownership though and seems like it could be on the rise and making more money which might attract more teams. And I don't need to see the Corvette specs, it isn't going to out accelerate a 1,500 hp Bugatti Chiron.
  18. The AMG GT R just set the 2nd fastest lap time ever by a production car at Car and Driver Lighting lap. Only the $900,000 Porsche 918 beat it. The E63 S set the fastest lap time ever by a sedan. AMG knows what they are doing. And other reason I have long thought there should be a V6 Corvette, the Z06 should be the top Corvette, no ZR1, and Cadillac should have a sports car above Corvette. This keeps the Vette as a bargain super car as it was in the 90s and early 2000s, lets Cadillac take on the European super cars and the NSX .
  19. The mid-engine Corvette won't even be remotely close on a track to the Project One. Project One has a F1 engine, F1 transmission, and F1 suspension, in a carbon fiber chassis and body. A Bugatti Chiron does 0-200 kph in 6.5 seconds, the Project One does it in under 6. I doubt any road car could take Project One in a 1/4 mile drag race, and the Project One wasn't made for straight line. The strong suit of this car is going to be corner exit speed, on a track it would devour a Chiron or LaFerrari as it would just fly our of corners at such a higher speed than those cars can.
  20. Formula 1 currently has 10 teams, and FIA rules allow for up to 12 teams. Mercedes publicly asked BMW and Audi to join F1, they don't seem interested. But if anyone else out there wants to take on the Silver Arrows, they are looking for competition.
  21. Amazing car, very cool that they put the Formula 1 engine into a road car for non-F1 car drivers to experience. My complaint all along has been why only 275? At least make 500 of them, I know they can only build 1 car per day but even if they made 250 per year for 2 years that is 500. Build more please!!! Oh, and bye bye Nurburgring lap record for street cars.
  22. A good way to save the Impala from impending doom would be to make it an all Electric sedan, in the 195 inch long territory. This way it stays and then in 2 generations when the Malibu goes EV they can downsize it a little and likewise for the Cruze. If China and Europe both ban gas engines between 2030-2040 it is game over for gas.
  23. Until the tax credit runs out. A Nissan Leaf is $22,000 out the door using that same logic. And that is also assuming you qualify for a $7,500 tax credit. Tesla does have production issues, IF they can figure that out, they can be a force, if they can't they are screwed, jury is still out there. The problem EV's have and why I said most are crap, is you have to convince people that aren't shopping only for an EV to buy one. You have to convince someone to buy a Bolt instead of a 3-series that has no range issues, and is a sportier car, or convince someone to buy the Bolt over a Buick Envision which is a larger, more cargo capacity, more luxurious car. EVs won't survive if they only sell to people that despise gasoline and buy an EV for political/social reasons. That is why the Tesla Model S works, it has acceleration that beats an M5 or even a Ferrari at half the price. Tesla does a good job selling the Tesla image/lifestyle too, but that car has performance to attract buyers. I see the day when there is an electric Camaro with a 250 mile range and 0-60 in 4 seconds for $50k, and a Camaro SS with a V8 that is $50k and does 0-60 in 4 seconds. And at that point, I think the EV will be chosen over the V8 and then the flood gates will open and every model will have an EV that is better than the old V6 or V8 counterparts.
  24. Outselling other EV's isn't an accomplishment. The market isn't only EVs. Eventually the battery tech will get the cost down, and EV's will do better and I think replace gas cars all together. I think this change over will happen sort of quick too, like 1 to 2 product cycles.
  25. Funny that Cadillac was the #1 luxury brand in the USA, and Mercedes supposedly didn't make luxury cars in the 70s or 80s, but still surpassed them as the #1 luxury brand in the USA. Believe what you want, Mercedes was always a luxury brand, and they are going to stay at the top for a long time to come.
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