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Very concept that looks like production is a while away. I like how the tailgate folds out and has that extension on it, I always thought there should be a tailgate that folds out into a box to extend the bed.

Yay for more chargers and anyone can use these. So we need the EV charge network to get bigger. But what I don't get is why do all these EV chargers need some sort of app and an account to log in to. Why can't you just pull up and swipe your credit card like a gas pump. Also why aren't gas stations putting in EV chargers? Or are they just going to sell gas only another 15 -20 years then all close.

You have to keep eyes on the road with Super Cruise, with Drive Pilot you don't, you can do other tasks. Drive Pilot is the only level 3 system in the world. And I think the 60 kph limit is more a liability thing, not the system limits, that I suspect goes up in time. Ultra Cruise is still Level 2, it isn't even here yet, already outdated competed to the S-class before it arrives.

It's the best car in the world, in 2023 becomes the first car in the US to have level 3 autonomy as it just got regulatory approval. The S-class is the gold standard, it is the car all other luxury cars are compared to, it is what other brands try to copy.

There is an EQA coming, that should be under 50. Mercedes EV's cost Mercedes prices though, most brands EV's are way more than their other cars. Although I think they need to get the battery cost down that EQB needs to drop about $5k in price, or else people will just buy GLB.

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The S-class has been the best car in the world for 40-50 years at this point. Yes it is big and expensive and you can get 80% the cat in an E-Class or Lexus but if you want the best, it’s the S-class. Why they departed so much from what has widely been considered the best car for decades makes no sense. Other than to just be different or go out on a limb which is rather un-German of them.

No frunk who cares, that is really a feature nice for a pickup truck, but the EQS and every other sedan and SUV has plenty of cargo space in back. The S580 registers 65 decibels at 70 mph from Car and Driver's test, and got 32 mpg on their highway test, with a a V8. So that car is slippery too and doesn't look like a worn bar of soap. The problem with the EQS is not enough S-class. And maybe they just wanted to do more of a concept car or take chances that they can't on the traditional, conservative S-class. Solution is take the S-class body, put on EQS platform.

$45k is still a lot for what is basically EV Passat when the Passat wasn't selling at $25-30k. The Arteon didn't sell either because it was over priced. I get that VW doesn't really need the American market because they sell 3 million cars a year in China and that is where the money is made. The iD4 has been a global bust thus far though, so VW has a long way to go with the EV's because really the Tiguan/Jetta/Taos/Golf are falling way behind the Asian competition too. The F150 Lightning is on the F150 ICE platform, that is about as good economies of scale as you can get. I understand GM's Ultium plan, what I am somewhat skeptical on is they can execute the plan. Because GM had about 4 Cadillac revival plans in the past 20 years and none of those worked. GM has had lots of plans, didn't always execute and I get that a lot of the management from the 2000s and 2010s is gone and not here to screw this one up. The Equinox EV doesn't even go on sale for another year, a lot can happen in a year, but I hope they can pull it off. Also would like to see the EV Malibu that is around $30,000 and undercutting this iD7 by a big amount.

435 miles on WLT, which is probably low 300s EPA. But plenty of range I think. I don't see the price parity yet, the VW iD4 is $12,000 more than the Tiguan. I wouldn't be surprised if the iD7 starts over $50k. If GM can deliver on their "about $30,000" for the Equinox without sacrificing all quality and materials or pulling a bait and switch like the "under $40,000" F150 lightning that is now $54,000, I think it will be quite an achievement.

The iD4 isn't a sedan. I wouldn't buy a crossover, my mom won't, there are still people that want a sedan, and maybe not a big one. Agree that there is some bad space utilization in sedans, but with an EV, they should be able to make an Jetta sized EV sedan have the room of a Passat. Even the little Chevy Bolt has E-class level leg room in the back seat. If the Audi A6 EV is based on this, that might save them some money and make this worthwhile.

A Jetta sized EV sedan would do a lot better than this, but they probably need this car too. Although they killed the Passat and Arteon off so how much demand is there for a biggish midsize VW sedan in the USA? And I bet this costs double what a Passat costs.

I actually am because if it and the Tesla Roadster show up, it will start to launch EV sports cars and we need more EV options other than $100k+ big sedan and small crossover or full size pick up truck. There are a lot of body styles, price points and vehicle types that aren't even being explored with EV yet.

This part, the 959 was one as a halo above the 911, that tech trickled down. The F40, F50, Enzo, LaFerrari, done as projects above the Testarossa, 430, 458, etc. Dual purpose, builds the brand image, then tickles down the tech. GM doesn't have this. Doesn't mean they need it just because others did it, but I like that strategy. The LFA at least from an engineering standpoint got them the GS-F, IS-F V10 cars that followed. Lexus and Acura don't know how to do performance like the Germans, and they didn't go all in, that's why they failed. Cadillac doesn't have to fail just because they did, if Cadillac builds a half assed sports car like the XLR it will fail, if they build the next Bugatti Veyron or next McLaren F1 then it won't be a failure.

Yes the Corvette is engineered to hit a price point, so that have that covered, but what if there were no price point? What if you could take Cadillac Celestiq interior and make a 2 seat coupe out of carbon fiber and put 4 EV motors in it for 1600 hp for example. Mercedes is working on a 480 hp electric motor that weighs half their current ev motor and they can put 1 at each wheel vs 1 on each axle. So 1,920 hp is possible with the same weight of an EQS dual motor set up. Cadillac could build that, might cost a million dollars but who cares, you do it just to push the envelope of what's possible. Bugatti reportedly lost $6 million per car on the Veyron, but Volkswagen still built it knowing they'd lose money just to push the engineering boundaries. Now they made money on the Chiron. Just like VW probably lost money on the Phaeton but that work paved the way for the A8, Continental GT and Flying Spur which made money. GM could make a hyper car that is really pushing 2030s tech and performance that loses money, but puts Cadillac back on the map and that trickles down to other cars 10 years from now. Correct on the Boxter/Cayman/718 being Corvette price, but not having the same performance, but the Porsche has better build quality than a Cadillac or anything at GM, and better resale value than anything at GM. Some of that money for the Porsche is going to luxury and build quality, and badge, Porsche vs Chevrolet. So it depends on what you want, if you just want and at VIR the C8 Z51 runs a 2:49 the 718 GT4 runs a 2:50.3 they aren't that far apart. I will give the newer Ford GT hyper car status since the price is high and they are more rare than the 2005 version and the GT hits 216 mph. But using VIR times as a guide the 2017 Ford GT did a 2:43 the 2018 AMG GT R did a 2:43.4 and that isn't a Black Series or Pro. The McLaren 600LT Spider, 911 GT3, 911 GT3 RS and 911 Turbo S all beat it in the following years. The Ford GT set the lap record for Car and Driver Lightning lap in 2017, but 10 cars have since passed it, so it had the hyper car performance 5 years ago, which still makes it a hyper car for its time just like the Ferrari Enzo was 20 years ago. But I think Ford is done making the GT now anyway.

It is and it would be more of an engineering exercise really, probably would not make any money to build a hyper car. And the Corvette beats any other American or Asian sports car in performance already so not like any of GM’s key rivals are doing it. All the hyper cars or from Europe, it would be nice for America to build one, but probably not going to happen.

The Corvette isn’t a hyper car, hyper cars are pushing a million dollars and collectible. You don’t want the Corvette to be a hyper car as that would ruin what it is. The problem is GM sees the Corvette Zora/ZR1 as the finish line when they should be looking at that as the starting point. A Cadillac hyper car in base trim could be positioned above the Corvette Zora. And they could do an AMG One style track monster or a Bugatti Chiron 275 mph exotic, I don’t car which but they should do something that put Cadillac on the map. And even the Celestiq is $200,000 less than the Maybach 62 was 15 years ago, but I think only Rolls-Royce can sell a $500,000 sedan or SUV as Mercedes and Bentley haven’t been able to do it, I doubt anyone else can.

I’ve been saying for years that Cadillac should have a super car above the Corvette, and it makes sense. And I didn’t say it has to be ICE, it can be electric. Cadillac could do an EV sports car with carbon fiber body and 1,000+ hp. Cadillac should be the pinnacle of American engineering, not playing 2nd fiddle to Chevrolet or Watching Tesla become the premier American car company right under their noses.

Or GM could just make a sports car above the Corvette to be more on par with the Ferrari SF90 and McLaren Senna both of which can smoke the 911 GT3 RS or 488 Pista all day long. The 911 GT3 RS 0-60 time is 50% slower than the Ferrari SF90, the top speed is nearly 30 mph less. Big gap between the hyper cars and the super cars.

The SL has held true to being a roadster, much like the Corvette has always been a 2 seat sports car even if the engine moved from front to back, I don’t think that matters too much, it is still the same mission of performance 2 seater. I criticized the idea of a Corvette SUV, I am not criticizing the Corvette or GM since they didn’t make that move yet. The one thing I would change about GM’s performance strategy is I would do a car above the Corvette to keep the Corvette in a$60-120k range. Porsche did the 959, Carrera GT, 918 when they had to go above the 911. Mercedes did the SLR, SLS, AMG One, etc when they had to go higher than the SL. Mercedes never killed what the SL was in the past just because they needed a 911 fighter or a Ferrari fighter.

The original 300SL was derived from a race car, and thank you Mercedes for making the first Super Car, but the convertible version came a few years later and it has been a convertible for 65 years now. Yes they had a 4 cylinder back then, but they have a 4 cylinder now in Europe so that has come full circle. And they used inline 6, V6, V8, V12 over the years. The SLS and SLR aren’t SL’s and the GT roadster is dead. The SL has evolved over time but it’s still convertible only, unlike a 911 that has hard top and targa also.

Mercedes is going a bit too much tech for the sake of tech. The prior SL (and all the other Mercedes convertibles for like 30 years) had a simple up/down lever in the center console for the convertible top. That seems much easier than sliding your hand and holding it on the touch screen. Agree with @ccap41 on the buttons, that door mounted seat control has been in use for like 40-50 years, works perfectly, they don't need some capacitive touch thing. Would be nice if they could get some weight out of the front of the SL, there is a more powerful SL coming supposedly with E-performance, so that will probably still undercut the 911 Turbo S in price and have way more power. But I am glad the SL is still here and is still a roadster, and they didn't make it an SUV.

I didn’t praise it, I just said that it has an all terrain tire, not a street tire.

If you don't like Pirelli Scorpion then buy something else, someone paying $350k for a car can get a different set if they go off road and a set for on road. Point still is, where is the off roader from Genesis, BMW, Audi, Cadillac, etc? None of them are there, Audi is killing the R8 this year, none of them are making sports cars or super cars either. And according to Car and Driver, none of these Genesis X concepts are seeing production.

The 4x4 Squared is a G63. It has Pirelli Scorpion ATR all terrain tires.