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Correct and GM has too many transverse engine products. If they made the Traverse/Enclave/XT6 on a rear drive platform you could put an in-line 6 in all of them plus all the current rear drive cars and trucks they have. A Turbo 4 is enough for any mid-size crossover or sedan from Chevy or Buick. I could make a strong case to kill the 3.6 V6 and that is for the USA, not even getting into It being over China’s 3 liter displacement tax which makes it useless there. Answered in response to Drew’s post.

Envision and Terrain are the same size but Encore is smaller than both and Acadia is smaller than Enclave and Yukon is biggest. So they have enough size spacing. Cadillac is about to overlap all those vehicles too, I am sure dealers want an XT3. I don’t hink GM cares, SUVs equal profit. Chevy and GMC overlapped for decades and they don’t care.

This is JLR’s own engine not from anyone else. It is based off their 2 liter 4 cylinder engine family. That is where the cost savings is, a V6 and an in-line 4 have different parts, in-line 4 and in-line 6 can share almost all the parts so it is cheaper to manufacture. Electric probably has 10 years before it replaces ICE, at least. And an engine program should only last 10 years anyway, unless you are Toyota. And some engine programs are like 5 years before they go to a new one.

I can see Buick as an all crossover brand (at least in the US) come 2021 model year. Without Opel to source cars why bother selling a fancy Malibu when sedans aren’t big sellers anyway.

Riding Mercedes coat tails on this one. But a good move for them.

Probably the German built ones will come to USA as anything Mercedes builds in China is sold in that region. They are currently expanding the Alabama plant and building a battery factory next to it so I would expect once that is done these EQC’s and others will be sourced from there. A slow ramp up in 2019 is fine to get quality right, after that they need to get it rolling. As I said they aren’t Tesla with one factory. The new S-class factory will open in 2020, they will make EV’s there also freeing up Sindelfingen for E-classes and the like.

They better ramp up production big time in 2020, this is Mercedes-Benz not Tesla.

GM has money now, they could build anything they want. It is a matter of choice now not limited resources.

Probably got a big shipment out of the former Yugoslavia during the fall, much like Newman’s shower head dealer.

I always liked the rear end styling of that car, I think the rear still looks good today. I thought the headlights were too rounded off and the front was a little off. I liked the interior of that car at the time. I test drove one that was 3 years old maybe and remember it being too floaty and I had an Aurora at the time , that was probably 6 years ago. I drove an STS, gen 2 CTS, XF, MKZ, Genesis 4.6 and then an E350 and the E350 was way better so I bought an E550 without driving it figuring it has to be better than a 350.

Haven driven both those (540i) I do think the STS has better luxury, the BMW maybe a better grade of build quality and fit and finish. The difference was in driving, that E39 5-series could run circles around an STS or Gen 2 Aurora.

That is the best looking BMW sedan ever made.

Well, I mean the faster the van the faster the man with a van can make his deliveries and the more deliveries the more money. At least Jeremy Clarkson would see it that way.

Alpina counts it is on BMW's website. You can't buy a Hennessey car are a Cadillac dealer. That is why I left off the Brabus S-class that does 227 mph, I don't care what an aftermarket tuner does that voids out a warranty and could blow the engine. For stock factory cars the BMW Alpina B7 is the fastest one, which actually pisses me off because I don't like BMW, that is the real enemy of my brand. The A8 doesn't sell here at all, in China they clean up though, so on a global basis the A8 does alright. 7-series was in a model change over at the end of the year, plus the CT6 is 5-series money. The 5-series easily outsells the CT6, and the top end 5-series costs more than the top CT6. If the CT6 was 7-series money, it would sell 200 a month like the A8 does. 2019 CT6 is $50,495 CT6-V $87,795 2019 5-series is $53,400 M5 $102,700 2019 7-series is $83,650 M760li $156,700 And those are base prices before options list for the lowest model and the base price of the top trim.

This is the 2019 CT6 V-sport backseat: And a 760 And an S-class Maybach

The 2005 BMW M5 could go 200 mph with the speed limiter removed but it did have that governor put on there. CTS-V can hit 200 mph, but we are talking about a car bigger than a CT6, with a lot more weight (4,820 lbs) to move in the Alpina B7. And this thread was about the CT6 rivaling the best German sedans, which you have to throw the Panamera and maybe AMG GT63 4-door in there too. I still see the CT6 as more of an E-class/5-series rival that is just bigger. Maybe Lexus LS level when you have the V8 model added in there, it can offer the muscle the Lexus can't, even if it doesn't have Lexus reliability/quality. We can call that an even match up. But neither the CT6 or LS are "ready for prime time" of that $100-200k segment, they just aren't that level.

This has a top speed of 205 mph, making it the fastest sedan in the world (factory produced). Gauntlet thrown, are the Lexus LS or Cadillac CT6 going to beat it? I hope AMG steps up to the challenge.

Don’t hate on me, hate on Cadillac for not building a better car. A maxed out CT6 is cheaper than a base model S560. The S560 can go over $150,000 with options and that is before you get into AMG or Maybach. 7-series can go over $190k for a 760. Cadillac isn’t alone, the Lexus interiors trail behind any of the Germans too and the GS F is slow and the LS has no engine upgrade. They are just as bad and uncompetitive. I seem to remember a Motor Trend comparison of a CT6 and an E-class and they knocked the CT6 interior, if it can’t beat an E-class it is no S or 7. Plus there are people for who a 400 hp V6 isn’t enough, CT6 stops at a level some won’t even consider, they fixed that with the V8 for the 2019, but even still you can’t get a refrigerator in a CT6, you can’t get Level 3 Autonomy like an A8 has, 7-series has hand gesture controls, etc.

If the CT6 interior was as good as a German car, and it costs $30k less, why do the 7-series and S-class outsell it here and even by wider margin in China? I have sat in a CT6 it was at the auto show probably a mid grade one, but it is not as nice as a 5-series let alone a 7. CT6 interior should be what Cadillac has in mind for the CT4 and work up from there.

I would prefer that if it had a shorter hood and a pick up bed like a 6x6 G-wagen. That is just impractical.

Lexus has an F-sport package on the RX and it is the same thing, a lame wheel and badge package. Call it appearance package or something, because it adds no sportiness. Although most actual sports cars or performance cars don't put "spot" in the name, that is more reserved for family sedans or Ford Edges.

Yeah, this is a lame trim level/option package.

I agree, too much dark gray and black in the performance trim interiors on any brand. The E53 actually has more interior color choices than the E63, which doesn’t make a lot of sense.

You need both. The CT6 interior is about A6 or C-class level, CT5 needs to be a level above the CT6 interior to have a chance. An E63 or M5 or RS7 has an interior better than the standard car plus performance.

I watched the Autoline After Hours when Sandy Munro was a guest and he went over the tear down of the Model 3. Yes the build quality as far as panel gaps and things is not up to par for what it should be, but he said the electronics in the Tesla are light years ahead of what any other car has. He said how no other automaker is even close on the electronics/software/hardware/batteries, so that has to count for something.