Cory Wolfe

Aww... Chargon's no longer a pre-teen. How cute.

Your definitions are all F-ed up. A "carbon copy" would be an exact duplicate. Neither the Camaro, the Challenger or 25+ years of BMWs are that and you know it, so drop the tag; it doesn't apply here. (It does to the rear-engined Beetle, tho.)All 3 examples bear overwhelmingly strong design heritage to much earlier versions of the same nameplates. So what- who cares? If the design is asthetically appealing, where's the downside? The alternative is change for change's sake- how's that work toward elevating good design? That's right; it doesn't. Alright... on a scale of simularity, 10 being a carbon copy, 5 meaning perfect evolution, and 1 bearing no resemblance what-so-ever. The Challenger with the original would be a 9.5. The Camaro concept with the 1st gen Camaro would be 7. Those BMWs... a 6. Somthing like the 2nd gen to 3rd gen Camaro or C3 to C4 Corvette would be aroung a perfect 5. Still, evolution is a seperate thing from retro. Evolution is where the design evolves with each new generation while Retro is going back to modernize a certain design. That's why I say the Challenger is a carbon copy. While it may not be an actual carbon copy... there wasn't any modernization of the design. It looks as if the design was completely untouched, but lifted onto a modern chassis, some adjustments were made to fit that chassis, and it was given modern componants. With the Camaro, however, the design is completely modern, yet it is completely retro. And yes, you can tell the difference... unless you're blind.Does that clear up things a bit instead of continued bickering?

Well... that Miata is no more... *sigh*

It's sexy... IDK what you're talking about... Big asses are fat, nothing else.

It's called beancounting... No other excuse for it.

New topic title.

Oh my...

Now how about those letter ones for other languages... and anything else?

Isn't that a bit extreme? Either way... the rear is the sexiest part of the Boxster, IMO.

I know... I shot that horse 7 months ago with my .443 Rifle... it's rotting in my basement.

No motorcycle license yet and it needs inspected and all that. That and I'd have a hard time convincing my dad to let use it as a daily rider. It's mostly a weekend toy...

Well... I thought I'd post pics of all the other toys in my household... The Nighthawk 750: Don't mind the the sissy-bar. Yes, it's ugly, but my dad uses to to tie cargo down onto and it makes my mom more comfortable on it. Personally, I'd like to atleast get one that matches the bike. The "Piece of $h!": Love my letter decals? Yeah... it's $h!ty... I know... obvious, huh? The GT80: It's old... Amazingly, it was my dad's when he was a kid. We found it a few years ago and had to buy. Sometime between then, they swapped the frame and the fenders and stuff. The originals are in that box, as you can see. I have a pic of it from when my dad had it, but I'll have to find it... The Chappy: Lovable little thing isn't it? It runs great, but the rear tire is flat. It's hard to find tires that fit, though. Surprisingly... the top speed on it is about 35, which is about equal with my old Suzuki 125 3-wheeler and that "Piece of $h!" Honda TRX200. The TT-R125: It's mostly my brother's. It runs good, but lacks power compared to my 300EX. Keeps up with it as far as speed, though... but it's lighter, obviously. And for 300 vs 125 is normal as far as dirtbikes and ATVs. See the custom light? Right now, that's all we have. I might get my old Suzuki 125 back from my uncle, though. But before, we also used to have a Husquavarna Enduro. I forget the engine size, but it was a beast until my dad blew it up. We also used to have an old Honda 200 dirtbike...

Happy birthday, sir... Your gift:

Basing the car on it's driver's is about as stupid as it gets. By that stand... the Vette is mid-life crisis car, not an enthusiast's car. As far as I'm concerned, the Boxster is an enthusiast's car. Midengine layout, 2 seats, conv top, flat-6 engine, excellent handling, and sexy looks... What's not to love? I'd take one over a C6 any day of the week. Anyways, how are it's taillights dated? They flow with the body and adds to that super sexy look. I will agree the Cayman doesn't look as good with them, though. And the front... that doesn't even make sense. Still... would you rather the Boxster be a 911 mini-me and then make fun of it for being that instead? That's all I'm getting from you, you know... For me, I'd rather have a Boxster than a 911. Porsche made it for people like me.

Or you could just admit that you are a very very legally blind man who lost his glasses in freak fluffy kitten accident. Because... carbon copies are the exact opposite of evolution in every way possible. But don't worry... you're secret's safe with me. I won't tell that you got mulled by a fluffy 3 week old kitten with an evil agenda.... I promise.

Not really... not every enthusiast is like you. I'll give you 50% at the very most... although something like 30% or even 40% seems more realistic. Exactly.

Oh f@#k no... GM, stop bastardizing Saab's interiors! This is horrible!

Anyways, the things that really turn me off to the Vette's design is it's huge "up in the air" ass, poorly designed greenhouse, and overall cheap feel. As far as it's huge ass... I greatly prefer these: See? Now those are sexy... until the Corvette gets an ass like that again, it won't be sexy. Designing a greenhouse that doesn't flow as well as a puzzle would help as well... and remove those cheap bits, like those side markers. Ugh.

You still haven't answered me... what's so "ungainly" about it? Look at those pics and tell me. Anyways, you're still very old school. The fact that the 911 is the only Porsche for you clarifies it. What's so wrong with a more affordable, better handling, smaller, 2 seat, mid engine Porsche? And why can't you admit that it's sexier than any modern designs you like? And are all midengined designs ungainly? It just looks like a sexy midengined roadster to me... A super sexy one at that.

Fine... I'll set the timer on my camera to take one while cuddling with... uh.... something.

Or Porsche would lose its reputation for putting out gorgeous designs...

Well, then... I'm glad it doesn't.

I can understand the Spoon Fit... but the Mugen one looks like rice. I'll take the performance upgrades only.

You are so silly. Nah... you see... one's a carbon copy and one isn't. I believe that means there is a difference.

Heh... yeah, Z was right... I was talking about your original post. It's alright, though.