You said "Nascar has NO talented drivers anymore" So I responded with "So all those drivers that also race in Cart, F1, etc... or at Rolex, Lemans, Dakkar, etc... and do well when they do, at that... They're just talentless?" I don't get what's so hard to understand. You say all Nascar drivers are talentless, yet many of them race in other series or gigs, and do well. Are all drivers of the other racing talentless, too? That's my point.As far as the second part of the thread... FOG, it wouldn't matter what you did, I would still disagree with what you did and state my opinion on the matter. I don't play favorites and I don't agree with trolling for your own personal agendas, of which you admitted yourself. It's bad for C&G. I've never thought you were a bad person and I've never disliked you, but I still disagree with it. I don't see the correlation between that and me supposedly going out to annoy others and appearantly lacking judgment. I'm here because I enjoy it here. I can be argumentative at times and it has gotten me in trouble, especially back when I was dealing with depression and all sorts of $h!. I don't blame anyone for wanting to ban me. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful you, as well as others, stuck up for me, but this whole situation with you and me is calling it like I see it. It was never anything personal with you. If you're going turn this into a personal beef with me, then so be it, it's your perogative.