Cory Wolfe

Hide me. I'm scared.

Depends on my mood.

Cool. Congrats.

Come on, Chris... You know you love Harry.

That's not at all what I meant. I mean the Chevy Lambda and the Buick Enclave versus the Edge and MKX, not all four lambdas. The Outlook and Acadia are at a disadvantage no matter how much better they are. Take the Aura. It's been noted as being much better than it's own siblings, yet it's still being outsold by quite a bit, even only looking at retail sales. Saturn's dealer network is largely out numbered.

Well, don't get me wrong... I think the mechanicals of the GXP and what it's able to do being that it's an out dated, disproportioned, FWD platformed car is pretty amazing. I also think how GM took care of the under-steer and torque-steer problems was brilliant. I just think it's ugly. That's all. Just playfully joking around... Like with Reg and his Aztek.

Well yeah... GT4 has interiors in every vehicle, even ones you can hardly see into, but you are correct in that you can't sit in them. But... Oh wow... you can adjust your seat position! Oh wow! How useful!

I don't know what graphics you're looking at... But from the sceenshots I've seen of TDU, there's no comparison. GT4's are much better and much more realistic. True. TDU sounds like the Tokyo Extreme Racer series except that it's not based in Tokyo and probably can't rice your car.

Negative. I think the GP GXP is ugly as sin. The regular Grand Prix looks much, much, much better. The GXP's fascia ruins it for me. It's ugly. I'd much rather drive around in the G8... even if the mechanicals were identical and I was picking on styling alone. So there, biatches, this Pontiac fan likes attractive Pontiacs, not ugly Pontiacs. I didn't like the Aztek and I never really liked the currect Grand Prix either.

Haha... really?

They still look like the size Giffron said, to me. *shrugs*

Yeah.Whether you like the direction they went with it or not, the original "unique" one wasn't selling.

Eh... I really cannot stand the styling at all.

Well, seems like Ford really put an effort into it. I just... can't see it selling well. I mean, it's styled like a tall, boxy 80's station wagon. I can't see minivan buyers nor crossover buyers really choosing this over either.

GT4 pwns TDU. Sorry.

You keep repeating this, but have you ever taken into consideration that Honda has added the Japanese built Fit this past year. Eliminate it and suddenly import car sales are about the same as they were last year while the only domestic built Honda to have sales gains is the Accord. Obviously this isn't "Honda shifting more and more production to overseas plants". They added a vehicle while other imported Honda's have gained sales. Big whoop.

I'm quite surprised. I'll let my bias show through and I'll say "w00t!"

Well... Considering that the only two Lambdas currently on sale are one from a brand with a limited dealer network and one from a brand from which people are used to buying trucks from... I think once the Enclave is on sale and up to steam, and the Chevrolet Lambda is out in a year or two, comparing those to the Edge and MKX will give you a more realistic idea of how they will stack up against each other.

The classic .

I voted in that poll for Chevy, and I see the Groove has quite a lead, as well.

Well, other than the odd looking front fascia, it looks good on the outside. As far as the interior... Well... it atleast looks like an improvement over the Patriot and Compass, so I'll give it that.

You guys need to be more open minded. These are far from Scion rip offs. And GM needs them, if you ask me. The Beat looks like a miniature WTCC whatever mixed with the Mazda2. It's sort of cool. The Groove looks almost like a boxier Smart ForFour mixed with the HHR. It's funky, I think I like it best. The Trax sort of reminds me of the original Geo Tracker, yet more aggressive and cuter at the same time. It would look better monotone.

I would have to agree and disagree. I always liked the rear of the current Grand Prix more than anything else about it. However, it still doesn't compare to previous Grand Prix. That one is still one of the best looking midsizers out there. Grafted on pumpkins and all.

Heh, well, I empty my bunk folder every week or so and I don't bother with my inbox.. I've never emptied it in the 4 years or so that I've used Yahoo.