Cory Wolfe

Gas prices, by far, have not been at their highest levels, and I pay for premium in the first place. When they were, I stayed off the gas a bit more, but generally, my driving habits didn't change much.

Cool.

Wow... That's more horrible that I even expected. Amazing.

What 91z4me said.

Would I design something like it? Yes and no. I understand where you are coming from. However, I don't find it to be dull. It's understated yet chiseled and stealthy. Could it have been more unique? Yes, by all means, but at the same time, I think it's more than just a bland, invisible anonymous car. As a Pontiac, no, it's not perfect by any means and the Pontiacs I design are generally more wild. Stylistically, in its own right, it's better than any other rebadge and many of the "unique" cars like the current Grand Prix and G6, IMO. With that said, I loved the GTO and I love the G8, regardless of being "plain" or whatnot.

Heh... True, but a great car is a great car, whether it's an actual Pontiac or not. Regardless of you guys' opinions, it's styling is current and fits in well with recent Pontiacs.

Haha... I better watch myself? I'm just trying to make a case for a car that rightfully deserves to be a Pontiac, despite you guys' unnecessary bitching. Sorry, Blu... I'm just as much a Pontiac fan as anyone else here, so bitch to someone else. Not me.

You missed my point, entirely. Yes, there was strong brand DNA, but it was mostly in the minor details that added to the base styling; certain lines, taillight styles, fascia integration, etc. Someone of your expertise of the these vehicles will always be aware of this like with how I still feel the G8 chop you did a while back looked nothing like an Acura. However, to the non-car enthusiast public, I could do the same thing with a Pontiac of the any period, fit it grill similar to another make and I bet that those people wouldn't know. That is my point. I've seen many Pontiacs from the 60s and 70s in person and every single one in pictures, atleast, so I'm not exactly some outsider make asinine comments. Also, you have no idea what Pontiac's I am a fan of. My fanaticism for Pontiac goes far beyond just the 90's, thank you very much. I mentioned more than just retro. I stand by what I said on that count. Besides, if you're asking for Pontiac flair and heritage from those decades, then my arguments since the G8 was first shown have suddenly been agreed upon by yourself. I've only said that it's styling fits in well with current and/or recent Pontiacs, which you say lack what you want in the first place. Hmm... Haha... It's sitting there like the POS car that it is. I whine because it is a POS with a POS engine. What do you expect me to do? Praise it's ability to sit there and kill grass?

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You can cry me a river as well. Coming from a Pontiac fan, the G8 is far from a crime to the brand, and neither was the GTO. The real crimes against the brands are the G5, Torrent, Montana, Aztek, LeMans, etc. There have been plenty of Pontiacs that were more "anonymous" than the G8 and I'm not talking about the ones I just mentioned. Pontiacs throughout the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s could have all easily passed for another American car, styling wise. The one's continuing to beat a dead horse, like yourself and PCS, are simply complaining about the fact that it's not retro, not American, not over styled, and not a $h!ty W-body Grand Prix. Oops, did I just say that?

Oh cry me a river.

*Praises Atheism*

I made a song/poem.

...This isn't an Outback. And yes, Subarus have generally had more attractive designs than most of their respective competitors, including ones from GM. The Legacy has always been one of the best looking midsizers out there. The Impreza has as well, although, with each update of the current generation it got less attractive.

Hmm... I forgot to include the Sunfire. It's the complete opposite of my Millenia. It's loud... always. When she first bought it, I noted that it sounded like a diesel. It doesnt sound very good. The Quad4 in my Grand Am sounded much better... And other than the ticking, was probably more quiet.

Finally got to see my cousin's Tiburon. If you hate the previous generation, you might not want to look. If you hate riced Tiburons, you might not want to look. If you hate both... you definitely want to get the hell out of this thread. Haha.

Hmm... I honestly have no idea. I imagine Paulie in a Buick, but others are better vehicles. I would choose the Accord, but I have no idea what it looks like yet, obvously. Myself, personally, I would have to go with "Other" as none of them really make me say "Oh... I must own this".

It's been snowing for the past few days. Grr.

Wait a minute... Subaru went with a six window design for the sedan? And in the process it looks to have eliminated the pillarless doors? Those bitches.

Yay. Thanks for the votes everyone. Congrats to the others, as well.

My Millenia is whisper quiet at running temp during idle as well as at highway speeds. After starting the engine cold, it's not so quiet. Same if I open it up. It purrs nicely when it isn't missing.

Only 5 cars? Damn... I've got well over 100 and I only race 2 or 3 of them.

So that's what purple haze looks like. Better than I expected. Well, good luck with it. What matters most is how you like it, not how I like it. Atleast it's a nice color and can outrun most anyone who tries to diss it.

Well... So far, I've had the Grand Am for 2 years and 4 months while I've had my Millenia for 10 months.