Flybrian

A major American metropolis has been decimated. Water is up to and beyond 20 feet deep in some places, and most of that water won't naturally receed since New Orleans sits seven feet below sea level on a marsh. Lawlessness reigns in many parts of the area with rescuers in boats and helicopters being shot at. Tourists trying to find shelter are being beaten and mugged. Those sheltered in New Orleans' convention center are also being beaten and raped. The police chief of the city said teams of his men have been beaten back. Numbers of National Guardsmen are down because many units are deployed - guess where? - in Iraq and Afghanistan. Good thing they're securing Tikrit. Bodies are lying in the street and floating about. The flood waters are now a brackish mix of saltwater, gasoline, solid waste, chemicals, and human corpses among other things. Imagine the sickness this will spawn in the region and for the world. There aren't solid casualty figures yet, but two unsubstantiated sources have reported that FEMA officials have ordered 75,000 body bags. Seventy-Five Thousand. There is also talk in some circles about whether its wise to rebuild New Orleans in its footprint. This isn't Camile or Andrew. This isn't even September 11th. This is far, far worse than anything this country has yet seen. And we've just seen the very beginning...

Um...I took this once...

If you ask me, they should formally change the name of the association from NASCAR to Nascar, eliminating the acronym that once stood for 'National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing' because a carburated V8-powered RWD coupe with headlamp stickers is as much a Ford Taurus as a microwave oven.

To be honest, it was better when NASCAR was 'Alabama in the 50s.' Its not a race anymore, its a glorified marketing tool.

The O.C., its got to be a regional thing. Here, LX rentals far outnumber LaCrosses. The first four Chargers I saw were all rentals. The Dollar office across from TPA has a Magnum and 300 outside with "RENT ME" signs plastered on the windshield. Those are very obviously marketed towards poseurs since its a base Dodge and base 300.

I'm the official Brian Dreggors of NASCAR.

I'm sure an annoucement will be made. There was one when the last LeSabre rolled off the line at Buick City before that factory was shuttered. They also made announcements for the Taurus, and LeSabre is a dozen times the car Taurus ever was.

Sorry, Harley, but that's a Riviera Limited, not a LeSabre. LeSabre was the lowest of the three newly-named '59 Buicks (Electra and Invicta being the other two), which also marks its first year as a car.

What a dorky spoiler. Seriously, Honda. Did Mr. Opportunity draw that out?

They probably sell with less discounts...at least the Hemis. I don't see the base 300 being desireable for anyone but poseurs. But that's a valid point given the initial cost of engineering a whole new platform. Image is where the 300 has paid off big time, though.

Just that it should've been called the FIREo instead. My real point is that it should be some sort of concern to have at least a little bit of luggage space somewhere in the car. This thing has the opportunity to be everything the Fiero wasn't, namely a desireable car from the get-go, not four years later. GM needs to stop getting things like that wrong at launch. I'm not talking about 'cheap plastics', but legitimate concerns like the above.

Too bad, so sad. That's why people my age with Bimmers and Lexus don't impress me; I know they can't really afford them.

No its not, dumbass. (17+27)/2 = 22.0mpg (18+25)/2 = 21.5mpg You have to try pretty hard to see that on the DeVille where the rear valance covers most of the exhaust piping. All G-Bods did a good job of covering up their guts, except the Riv and Aurora because of their rounded shapes. Even still, what about the Camry and ES330? You can see half the tailpipe jutting down at a disturbing angle amidship the car from behind, looking like its going to strike a speed bump. :blink:

Leno's car may be a fine custom piece, but its not a Toronado. Remember the entire point of the Toronado was for GM to show off the merits of front-wheel drive. Making it rear-wheel drive turns it into some random car with a Toronado body shell on top.

The Fiero also caught on fire, which I expect the Solstice to NOT do...

The UN is self-serving and it can't even serve itself decently. Corrupt, too. Most large corporations are indeed donating - The Big Three, Nissan, Honda, Wal-Mart, GE, Boeing, etc. Many are helping out by deferring payments etc. to assist people getting back on their feet. One thing that does make me sick is that we continue to fund the building of infrastructure in the ungrateful quagmire of Iraq. What a wise investment.

Hawaii is an island a quarter of the way out in the Pacific Ocean. As if its surprising things are expensive there.

A middle-aged black man was on FOXNews a few days ago barely being able to tell the story of how his house was literally split open by the flood waters and he held on to his wife until the last second when she said, "Take care of the children" and was carried away. Somehow, gas prices stopped making a shit to me at that point. Also, I must say that I'm glad we're still spending millions a day in Iraq building an ungrateful nation schools, infrastructure, and services while our nation is crippled by a massive disaster. Thanks, Washington.

The last LeSabre should be driven into the GM Collection. Almost a 50 year run, longer than virtually any other nameplate still in existance. Rest in peace, LeSabre - The true American family sedan.

I wouldn't be surprised to discover a larger proportion of sales are to fleets compared to LaCrosse.

No, they don't. That's a fact. The majority of them don't grasp concepts such as turning radius, using the right-hand lane, and common courtesy like parking at the far-end of the lot at a shopping center rather than right up close, taking up six to ten spaces. They also get really mad when you pass them ona two-lane road even if they're going 10 under the limit and love to make U-turns on busy six-lane boulevards with no regard for other people. I speak from pure experience when I say that. What scares me the most is the fact that the vehicle they're driving is many times larger and heavier than a regular car which many of them still can't drive. Heck, this year two have already made the news in this area for backing into gas pumps. Sorry, but I'll always see these things as wastes of space, wastes of time, and wastes of money.

It looks far more Mazda than Ford. And I agree with CSpec in that its really nothing new.

Or vice-versa...

I take legitimately rallying cries sent in ALL CAPS!

Grand Am. The new naming scheme was obviously a result of good ol' rectum spelunking as G6 has no relevance to anything and is especially redundant as G6 V6.