Oracle of Delphi

I hear Skyhawk is available.

Hey since I carry Icelandic blood (Vikings that moved west) via my mothers family, maybe we are related. I have a kilt I can wear to the Scottish family reunions! :rotflmao:

There were none available at the time, however if it was my decision, I would have waited for Alpha to be available and that would have speeded up the development of Alpha by leaps and bounds.

By Edgar Ortega Sept. 22 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. regulators added more than 90 companies including General Electric Co. and General Motors Corp. to a list of stocks protected against short sales. The Securities and Exchange Commission today amended its emergency ban on short sales, giving the New York Stock Exchange and Nasdaq Stock Market Inc. authority to add to a list of 799 companies, according to a statement on the agency's Web site. In addition to banks that had been omitted from the SEC initial list such as M&T Bank Corp., the Big Board added companies that generate a large portion of their revenue from providing loans. General Electric got about half its profit last year from financial units last year. Links: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...mp;refer=canada

Area 51

Mary Jane

OMG, such language young man.

I agree, and GME does recognize Saab's potential, CPF will fight for it should anyone in GMNA try to kill or sell it off. IMHO!

You're right, I'm not a GM employee, I'm a GME employee. I don't think anyone who knows me inside or outside of GME would describe me as a Minion of anyone else. I am very Alpha Male oriented, which I think from time to time rubs people the wrong way. I look at it as all part of my charm. :AH-HA_wink: How am I old skool? I started at GM in 1989 (I wasn't part of the Smith, Stemple regime), and I am only 39, I would look at me sticking around until the age of 65 or so, if GM last that long. So FOG, barring GM going bust, you and I have plenty of years left to admire each other.

You Sir, confuse negativity with realism. I look around GM and see what's happening on a daily basis. I try to suggest what is coming down the pike as I see it. I don't look through rose colored glasses, as you seem to do. Wouldn't you rather know what most likely will happen rather than being caught by the short hairs and be devastated by the news at a later time? Maybe you don't want to know, perhaps that's the problem, maybe you would really like to live in the Pontiac Dream World until that world is no more. As for Zeta and Kappa, I don't see either lasting much beyond the 2011 model year.

Thick, me? Do you forget where I work? No I see the difference clearly, however Lutz said when he 1st came to GM that it would all stop, some people in GM took him for his word. There are those inside GM that want exactly what Northstar said, but at a more base approach, they want all platforms to be sold under the GM nameplate, so instead of 4 different versions of Kappa, you would sell only one, but that one to the whole world, for instance, the car would be called a GM Kappa, GM Zeta, GM Delta II, etc. There would be no more brands there would only be GM selling cars under the GM nameplate. I think after Lutz leaves, you may actually see this happen, if the economy stays the way it is.

Daewoo G2X, Opel GT, Saturn Sky, all badge engineered. Same with the many iterations of the Zeta cars, and please don't tell me because they aren't in the same market that they are not badged engineered, because they are.

By Diane Sweet 9/21/08 8:01 PM Republican presidential hopeful Sen. John McCain started out his day-long Michigan visit last week with a surprise stop at an Oakland County General Motors Corp. plant. McCain toured GM’s Lake Orion assembly plant that makes Chevy Malibus and Pontiac G6s. With his wife Cindy McCain by his side, McCain shook hands with plant workers. But he met some opposition. I doubt the McCain’s will be visiting the GM plant again anytime soon. Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_WqNmD8TE0...s-but-no-thanks Article Link: http://michiganmessenger.com/4821/lake-ori...s-but-no-thanks

So that's where he got the badge engineering idea? Zeta, Kappa etc. I remember when he 1st came to GM, no more Badge Engineering was his rallying cry. Oh well.

BY KATIE MERX • FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER • September 21, 2008 As General Motors Corp. prepared for its centennial last week, the Free Press had a chance to talk with its top executives about when they first became aware of the corporation beyond the car brands and how they began their tenures there. Here are their stories: RICK WAGONER, chairman and CEO As a child riding the school bus in Richmond, Va., Wagoner rooted for what is now the other team. But it was through a rivalry with a fellow school-bus rider, and Chevrolet fan, that he became aware of GM as an entity in and of itself. "When I was a kid, whether I was 10 years old or 8 years old, on the school bus coming home, we used to count whether there were more Fords or Chevrolets," Wagoner recounted for the Free Press this month. "And, um, at that point my father drove Brand X and my friend's father drove a Chevrolet. And one day, there were more Brand X's and my friend said, 'That's not fair. I'm only counting Chevrolet, and not all of General Motors.' I said, 'Well, what are you talking about?' That's when I realized there's more to this than just the brand name on the car." BOB LUTZ, vice chairman Lutz recalls noticing the similarities among several car brands in his early childhood and asking his father about it. "It was in the States," Lutz said. "When I was 3, 4, 5 years old I figured out that Chevrolets, Pontiacs, Buick, Olds and Cadillac all had a certain appearance and actually shared a good many body panels. ... So I asked my father, and my father, a banker, immediately explained the GM hierarchy to me." Lutz said his father had an incredible respect for GM, though he was one of the only people in his Westchester Country Club circle that didn't drive a GM vehicle. "Most everybody else had Buicks, Super or Roadmaster, convertible or coupes," Lutz said. "There were a lot of Cadillacs, '41 Cadillacs. 1941 was a particularly good year for American styling. Everything was beautiful ... and when I was at school and being picked up during the war -- there weren't any new cars during the war -- '42 was the last new car you saw and there were very few '42s around, so everybody that had a 'new' car had either a '40 or a '41 and as you were standing by the curb waiting for your mom to pick you up ... if somebody's mom showed up with that, you thought, 'Whoa.' ... Those were sort of the cars that got everyone's attention. So I was very aware of GM." RAY YOUNG, chief financial officer The Canadian child of Chinese immigrant parents, Young remembers sometime in elementary school noticing the GM mark of excellence on the footplate of his father's car. "My parents, being Chinese immigrants, they always like things big," Young said. His first memory of a GM car was of the Buick Wildcat. By the time he graduated from the University of Chicago with a master's in business administration, he wanted to work for an industrial company. While he set up interviews with GM, Ford Motor Co. and Procter & Gamble, he was planning to join Nortel, where he had interned. He certainly didn't plan to work for GM. His opinion was that it was a stodgy company run by an old, homogenous crowd. But the people he interviewed with showed a more diverse face to the company. Once he was at GM, Young's aspiration became to get a job where he would receive a company car. Said Young, who's waiting for a new Chevrolet Malibu as his next company car: "Sometimes I can't believe I'm the CFO." ED WELBURN, vice president of global design Beginning at age 2 1/2 or 3, Welburn began drawing cars and trucks with crayons in his parents' books. Small ovals were cars; bigger ovals were trucks; really big ovals were trucks and construction equipment. As if that weren't telling enough. Welburn's dad, now 90, really liked GM cars and when Welburn was 8, took him to the Philadelphia Auto Show, where the future head of GM design saw the Cadillac Cyclone Motorama car displayed as if it were floating on a bed of angel hair. "When I saw that, I said, 'That's what I want to do, design cars for GM,' " Welburn said. At age 11, he wrote to GM and asked what school courses he needed to take to get a job there. He checked in again during high school to make sure he was on the right path. If he hadn't worked for GM, Welburn said, he would have gone into fashion. He would never have considered working at another automaker, he said. Link: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...ESS01/809210415

My point was, they are both old and senile.

You are in for a really big awakening. All I'm going to say.

NOS, you could save money by having your GF spend the night!

Mitochondrial DNA is inherited only from the mother, which allows tracing of a direct genetic line from the maternal side. Exact Matches: An exact match indicates another participant has the same mtDNA values as your mtDNA profile. An exact match means that you share a common maternal ancestor. These different mtDNA values have been mapped for 170 countries so far. I hope this helps.

Yeah but for a dollar, you would actually get to meet me when you hand the title over to me. That should be worth 16,799 dollars I would think. :AH-HA_wink:

McCain doesn't even know what day it is, I'm seriously starting to think he has Alzheimers. He says one thing at 8 AM and two hours later he is saying something completely opposite of what he stated 2 hours before. I can't vote for Gramps, it's Dole all over again. Can't go there.

DNA testing use to be quite expensive, now it's little more than 100 bucks. I decided to do this based on Mitochondrial DNA test results, which are passed down from Mother to Child unchanged from generation to generation with very little genetic drift. The results of this test were surprising to say the least, my German grandfather always used to call my German grandmother his Sweet Swede, there was a rumor that my mother's great great-grandmother came from Sweden or someplace north of Germany in the Nordic countries. It seems according to the DNA results, she actually came from Iceland, Swedish and Icelandic are very close languages linguistically. 90% of all my exact matches are from Iceland with the other 10% being in the USA and Canada, but immigrating to the USA and Canada from Iceland. I am waiting for the results from my Y-DNA test on my fathers side. This traces the Y chromosome passed down from father to son for generations. I'm not questioning whether or not I'm my fathers son because I look like him, but I read that 10 - 20% of married females get pregnant by someone other than the husband in the marriage, so what I'm testing is that I'm half Italian. I'm testing whether all my Italian great great great grandmothers on my Italian side didn't shack up with some non-Italian. One of my friends here always teases me and says, sometimes it's better not to know. I disagree, I like knowing. If your interested, I used Genetree, their database covers 170 countries and they have the largest DNA database out there. Here is a link with a video that explains it: http://www.genetree.com/tour

On the German Autobahn today, two cars racing at about 120 MPH (estimated since I was going about 100), a 1965 Plymouth Barracuda and a Ford Mustang GT 500. Both cars were sporting GG tags which means they were from somewhere around Rüsselsheim, Deutschland, or in the surrounding Groß-Gerau (district).

Poor old Gramps, he can't remember when he had his last bowel movement either.

I still think all the G Names are lame!