NINETY EIGHT REGENCY

ATS is 184 inches long. It is 73 inches wide. I do not think this new CT5 will be that small.

No one knows what the dimensions are. It will be interesting to see. The current CTS is as big as a downsized 1980's full sized GM car. The one that it matches is a 1986-1991 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight.( 196 inches long, 72 inches wide). I thought that was odd. The trunk is smaller. The wheelbase is longer. So why didn't it have any interior room? This car CT5 will probably be 190 - 195 inches long. I know XTS is shorter than a CT6, but XTS has a bigger trunk. The CT6 is as a big as a 1990's C Body( Ninety Eight or Buick Park Avenue.). It rides on a longer wheelbase, but the width is about the same. So why is CT6's trunk only 15 cubic feet? XTS is as big as a 1990's H Body at 201 inches long, 73 inches wide( narrower by one inch) and the wheelbase is about the same. The reason I say all of this why is the packing different on these cars( CT6 and CTS).

Lincoln learned that one the hard way with the transition from Mark V to Mark VI.

The thread is interesting. I will not take sides, but I will say GM has been known to use old tooling on new models. In some cases it was obvious. 1980-1981 Pontiac Bonneville and 1985-1986 Pontiac Parisienne 1994-1996 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight and 1997-1998 Oldsmobile Regency 1982 Oldsmobile 98 and 1988-1990 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser 1981 Oldsmobile 98 and 1986-1987 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser 1983-1984 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight and 1984-1985 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight Royale Brougham LS There are cars that shared parts with other models that were in production at the same time that shared parts: 1971-1976 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight, Ninety Eight, Custom Cruiser and Toronado shared parts 1971 - 1976 Buick LeSabre, Buick Electra, and Buick Riviera shared parts. The 1977- 1978 Buick LeSabre and Buick Electra/Park Avenue and Riviera shared parts. The 1992-1995 Pontiac Bonneville shared headlights with the Lumina and Transsport minivans The Pontiac Solstice and GMC Envoy shared back up lights. The Saturn Outlook and GMC Acadia shared parts. GMC Acadia used Saturn Outlook parts when it was updated. Chevrolet midsized cars and El Camino and Pontiac midsized cars shared parts for decades... Buick Regal and Century shared parts. I will take this a step further. The 1991-1993 Oldsmobile steering wheel appeared later on the Oldsmobile Ciera and GMC and Chevrolet fullsized vans. The Oldsmobile Alero headlights are used on UPS delivery vans. Buick Riviera and Buick Reatta shared parts Cadillac Deville, Seville and Eldorado shared parts in the 1990's and before that. Name a platform past or present, you will find shared parts. Look at the J Bodies. That one was global. Look at Grand Am and Alero. They shared big time. Look at the N cars from the 1980's The 1990's GM B Body wagons shared so many parts. The third window in the C- pillar on the 1980's A Bodies were shared( Pontiac and Oldsmobile) and (Chevrolet and Buick) The GMC and Chevrolet trucks. The GMC and Chevrolet vans. The GMC and Chevrolet Suv's( including Cadillac). It was not until recently they started to diverge( look distinctive) The early 2000's Cadillac Deville/ DTS headlights were used on buses. Let's not get started on GM Canada. I am not getting in the argument, but I am just making a point. They have shared parts for decades and no one complained on those other cars. It is about economies of scale and sometimes it saves money. I consider it to be a blessing personally because when I have needed parts of my 1995 Ninety Eight, I have bought 1997-1998 Regency parts and 1994-1999 Eighty Eight parts that were the exact same. I also have done it for my Toronado too. I bought Riviera or Eldorado parts. I will tell you the only time it was bad and not good at all was the downsized look a like era 1985-1991. Anyone know of any parts that were shared between GM cars...

If you noticed this is when GM was messing up badly. We are still paying for that to this day. The downsized era (1985-1991) did a lot of damage to GM. The E bodies were cash cows to GM, and they lost buyers and money. The up sized Riviera was trying to win buyers back. The funny thing, it was the longest Buick outside the wagon that year and in 1990 also. It was longer than Park Avenue. Cadillac did it too with up upsized Deville and Fleetwood although more effective. Here are a few more: Upsized: Downsized

Drew: As you requested:

I am pleased they fixed the Acadia. This is a vast improvement. Sierra, Canyon, Yukon all look great now. They need to fix Terrain.

Best wishes and good luck. Congrats in your new position. I am sure you will find it rewarding.

Nice. It is really nice. It will hopefully be a hit like Navigator. How is it Lincoln makes unashamed American luxury and Cadillac does not? They got this vehicle right. Lincoln has quietly been rebuilding the brand. I think Lincoln is doing suv's and crossovers like they did luxury cars back in the day.

I watched this today explaining why GM is doing what they are doing:

Haven't we been here before? Parody with some truth to it:

They did not give Oldsmobile that many chances or this long to turn around. I see the unfairness in that alone. There are marketing and management issues at "GM". Get to the root of the issues. It has been a long time watching this turn around. There is a product issue too. They had all those great concepts, and did not pursue yo think about putting them into production. Too many management changes and and too many directions and false starts. Although it is see as cheesy now, The "Cadillac Style" era marketing worked and it was memorable. It sold cars.

ELR part deux.

Here you go:

Oldsmobile Ninety Eight with a cloth interior