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I've seen the show a few times. Not particularly one of my favorites but I agree, the episodes with the gays and lesbians are pretty funny. Did you ever see the episode where the guy and one of the 5 girls gets in a fight in the car? It's the same guy that made another girl swim back to shore after they went out on the boat.

The Spice Boys God, I love Baby.

I saw a coupe for the first time today. It does have some presence on the road and it looks pretty good, I'll admit. The interior still turns me off, though. Even if Bentley came up with the idea of that interior and manufactured it, I wouldn't care. You'll never catch me in a Civic sedan. Never.

It's a good thing but that wasn't my point. The Monaro's gas tank had to be moved in order for it to be rebadged as a GTO and sold in the U.S. due to regulations. Perhaps GM designed the new Zeta platform (underpins the new Commodore) so they could be easily imported to the U.S.? GM thought ahead for once. Maybe I'm getting myself confused. First a U.S. Zeta was on, then it wasn't, then it wasn't a pressing concern...exactly where does it stand now?

The black G6 coupe in front of a black background with the taillights on...beautiful.

FOG, stop drinking the kool-aid. The hypocracy isn't flattering, either. Funny how you rail against people who do not like domestics "just because..." while you refuse to buy imports "just because..." Educate yourself a little bit more about hybrids, too, even if you do not like or agree with them. The Silverado/Sierra "hybrids" are not true hybrids and, no, not because GM didn't purchase Toyota's hybrid technology. I'd also like to see some sources to support your claims.

I'll change what I said. GM doesn't have REAL hybrids (yet) that the general public can buy.

Something interesting was said in those scans: Didn't the gas tank have to be moved in order for the Holden Monaro to come to our shores as the GTO?

I was taking another look at the pictures and even though I think someone already pointed this out, I don't like the steering column. It's big, blocky and does not fit with the rest of the interior. It jumps out at you. Then again, it is preproduction.

Errrr... I don't like it at all. It's the same reason why I don't like the Hyundai Entourage name...the name fits the vehicle a little too much. I can't wait to see pictures, though, as usual. I didn't know I4s were going to be in the crossovers.

It depends on what equipment level you're going to get, too. I'd get the Impala simply because it looks nicer, IMO, and has a better interior. However, if you're planning on staying around a certain price, maybe low to mid $20's, I'd get the Malibu with a larger equipment list instead of a stripped Impala.

Headline: GM introduces REAL hybrid trucks and SUVs. C&Gers: "YEAH! What a great idea?" "Wow, look at that gas mileage!" "GM is an innovator!" "Take that Toyota, Honda and Ford!" :rolleyes:

Really, now? LOL. No problem...hope you feel better.

The Civic sedan has a serious case of flat ass.

The Caliber will be a hit, especially if the weight/power ratio works out well, unlike the original PT. BTW, the Focus and Mazda3 are offered in wagon variants that look better than the sedans.

The interior looks very good and the dual exhausts look hot.

I thought the new Explorer/Mountaineer had their frames strengthened? Something along the lines of the current SuperDuty...it was substantially changed underneath last year but you wouldn't know that by looking at it.

After I took the Super IQ test on Tickle.com: I have to pay $9.95 to get the full report and though I'm not a genius based on the results, I'm smart enough not to pay that.

#1 on my list is turbie because... Damn, why does there have to be a reason listed? Other than the fact I think he's cool, he looks pretty damn fine, too. Now that I'm done embarrassing myself and being superficial...

I sat in an Xterra at the local Nissan dealer and wasn't really impressed. The interior uses some fairly cheap materials and I didn't think it was put together all that well. The rear wheel wells stick out into the back seat and it looks nasty. I know what fly was saying about the badging and I agree.

The only thing modern about the dash and console is the faux metal accents (billet-style nice touch, I admit) and screen, otherwise it screams mid-'90s. The whole thing is a mix of previous-gen Toyota Avalons and Buicks. The wood across the top of the dash is horrendous. The chime speaker that fly pointed out is hilarious. An Aveo doesn't even have it! The materials might be there but the design definately isn't. Like everyone else, I'll check it out at the local autoshow.

You mean real money, too, not overstated reports containing money that doesn't exist. Boeing has been making a huge comback with its all-new 787 Dreamliner (more launch orders than any other commercial airplane in history) but I think it may still be having problems internally with management. I remember hearing about the company not being able to keep a CEO for too long for a number of reasons. I hope, sincerely hope, that the SEC's probe turns up nothing against GM. Companies who have to endure something like that either don't last or are severely weak after all is said and done. Just look at Enron and Authur Anderson. Neither exist anymore. Granted, what they did is a hell of a lot worse than what GM allegedly did but a government investigation is still a government investigation.

If Edmunds thinks that nasty interior rivals the ES then I'm the Pope. I see some LaCrosse and Accord in the rear 3/4 view. People who are purchasing an Avalon or ES will not give this thing a second look, IMO. That would be like comparing a DTS to an Impala.

"Koreans are never satisfied," said Shi Hong Choe. "We are always working, always improving. If I see something out of place, I cannot rest until it's corrected." It's employees like Mr. Choe, Hyundai's senior vice president of vehicle test and development, who are enabling the Korean automaker to challenge the Japanese Big Three — Toyota, Honda and Nissan — one carefully engineered new model at a time. Hot on the heels of the successful redesign of the midsize Sonata is Hyundai's new flagship sedan, the 2006 Hyundai Azera. Replacing the outgoing Hyundai XG350, the Azera is a modern sedan that should allow Mr. Choe to rest easier. A polished new look, luxurious interior, and a lengthy list of standard safety equipment provide the Azera with the right hardware to take on Toyota's popular full-size Avalon sedan. Quickest Hyundai Ever Under the big Hyundai's hood lies a new ultralow emissions (ULEV) DOHC 3.8-liter, V6 engine with continuously variable valve timing (CVVT). Rated at 263 horsepower and 255 pound-feet of torque, this refined V6 is big brother to the Sonata's smooth 3.3-liter V6. A well-timed five-speed automatic transmission with a gated shifter comes standard with the single-engine offering. The shifter allows you to shift gears manually, but the engine is so strong and the transmission so responsive, it isn't necessary. Hyundai says the front-wheel-drive Azera is the quickest Hyundai ever built, with a manufacturer reported 0-60 time of 6.5 seconds. If that's true, it'll be quicker than the last Avalon we tested, which hit 60 mph in 6.9 seconds. We haven't put the Azera through our own instrumented tests yet, but it does feel quick out on the open road. Down below, the Azera's all-new platform is a stretched version of the Sonata's and it has 68-percent greater body stiffness than the XG350. A healthy dose of unique Azera bits combine with similar Sonata attachment points to help keep the cost down. Sixteen-inch wheels secure the Azera SE's four corners, while the Limited gets 17-inch wheels with P235/55VR17 Michelin tires. Its dynamics were tuned in Korea as well as at Hyundai's super-secret test facility in the Mojave Desert. Although its steering is a touch light, the four-wheel disc brakes are strong and pedal feel is above average. At 3,629 pounds, this large, heavy sedan still needs to be guided instead of flung through tight turns, but the Azera is much more athletic than its spongy predecessor. Mr. Choe must smile when he feels the Azera's firm grip at speed. We did. Safety First Determined to become an industry leader in the standard application of safety technologies, Hyundai is spreading airbags and Electronic Stability Control (ESC) across its lineup and the Azera is no exception. The luxury sedan receives two additional airbags to Hyundai's typical six-count for a total of eight, plus standard traction control. Standard antilock brakes with Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) help bring the Azera to a safe stop. Hyundai claims that the Azera is projected to receive the highest crash test ratings from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS). Lex-dai or Hyun-us Hyundai admits to setting its sights on the Toyota Avalon, but the Azera is so luxurious inside, challenging the Lexus ES 330 isn't out of the question. The Azera's center stack is clean and elegant with wood and aluminum trim galore, and there's no cheap plastic to be found. Instead, quality touches like a thick headliner, fabric-wrapped door pillars and triple door seals help the Azera envelope passengers in quiet comfort. Contrast stitching along the soft leather seat covers help to increase the Azera's style quotient. With nearly 44 inches of legroom in the front and over 38 inches for rear-seat passengers, the Azera offers a roomy ride with exceptionally comfortable seats that provide solid support underneath their softly padded exterior. Efficient packaging has maximized total passenger volume, allowing an increase of 7 cubic feet over the XG350. But if the classy, comfortable interior doesn't make you think Lexus, the lengthy feature list will. An SE gets a leather-wrapped steering wheel, power front seats, a 60/40-split rear seat to increase cargo capacity to 16.6 cubic feet, dual automatic climate control, and a CD/MP3 player. The Limited adds larger wheels, heated leather seats in a choice of three colors, a wood grain steering wheel, a power rear sunshade, and an electroluminescent instrument cluster. Add the Premium Package and you'll get a power sunroof and a 300-watt in-dash six-disc Infinity sound system. An Ultimate Package (remember, we're still under $30,000) adds a power-adjustable tilt-and-telescopic steering column and adjustable pedals, rain-sensing wipers and folding side mirrors. All for the Low, Low Price With similar horsepower and torque ratings from their V6 power plants and comparable interior features, the major distinction between the Azera and the Avalon is the price. Although the Azera's pricing hasn't been fixed and won't be until the sedan hits Hyundai showrooms in November, preliminary pricing suggests it'll have a clear advantage. The base model Azera SE is expected to enter the market around $25,000, with top-of-the-line Limited trim starting near $27,000. Even better, Hyundai officials claim a fully loaded Azera Limited will remain under $30,000. By comparison, the entry-level Avalon XL starts at $27,165 and climbs to $34,355 for the Limited sedan. Combine the low price with Hyundai's acclaimed 10-year/100,000-mile warranty, and the Azera presents a pretty compelling package. Winning Package Hyundai's only concern should be luring consumers in for a test-drive. Although the company is playing to win with the 2006 Hyundai Azera, it might take some time to drag consumers out of their Japanese-car safety zone and ask them to risk a Korean alternative. Hopefully incentives like the world's best warranty; a low, low price; and an increasing track record for reliability will drive the Azera toward a place in the spotlight. And allow Mr. Choe to take a well-earned vacation. Edit: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drive...rticleId=107629

"Reach back, leap forward." Love it.