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By KY law any employer w/ a certain number of employees must have Worker's Compensation insurance, even small businesses. That is just how it works. So it sounds like at least part of the story is false. It could be that people got hurt and they couldn't prove they were hurt to the degree they claimed, it happens a lot w/ worker's comp situations. There have been factions of the population that have wanted to unionize the plant since it opened. The UAW is practically drooling to get into Toyota plants and it may happen. But Toyota could just let those workers walk out and hire all new workers. Eventually the some of the workers would come back. Sure Toyota might lose some production but lets face it there aren't a lot of job alternatives in KY for the kind of money they are making, for unskilled labor. As for Toyota's billboard ads, try the ones around Evansville, IN. They have the 10 plants in the US and number of models built in the US ones up. GM has one of their response billboards right next to one. I laughed when I saw it. BTW I worked at Circuit City, in Louisville, a few years ago. Was someone thinking of me?

This thread has gone downhill fast. Is there anyway I can unsubscribe from it?

That looks awesome!

When he posted the same thing on CZ28 I jumped to conclusion that he was just trolling. After reading all of his posts overthere, specifically in the 5th gen seciton of the board it is obvious that he is privy to plant specific information coming from Oshawa. I would speculate that he doesn't just work the line but is involved with either union relations/negotiations or in manufacturing engineering.

Zeta and Sigma are both modular RWD/AWD platforms.

AOSOF = ass on seat on frame.

450+ hp is a 100% safe bet. Anything above that we can't be for sure on.

Wouldn't that be SOF, Seat on frame? There really isn't a body.

I don't want to disappoint anyone but sometimes dealers will buy a new model of an anticipated vehicle to draw some attention to their lots. I saw a brand new XLR on an Acura lot right after they came out.

You feel better now?

Wow. Someone should make a similar body kit for the G6, that is nice!

SAAB 9-3 sedan. Bases at around $26K w/ 16" wheels and an auto it comes in just under $30K. It is a luxurious conservative small sedan that gets 'good' gas mileage, has decent power, and has a sport tuned suspension. I have a city commute and it would suit my needs perfectly. Though high priced, especially compared to the Malibu, G6, and Aura Epsilon cars its conservative yet attractive styling calls to me. If this car were styled as a Buick, with minor changes, and a 3.9 V6 I would be on it like stink on poop! Though it won't be out w/in the next year the Camaro is probably THE debut of the early century. It represents the culmination of GM's new 'world' chassis system and the implimentation of the best of its resources and people. The car NEEDS to kick off the RWD cars w/ a BANG! If it comes to production w/ a cheap interior and starts to show rattles I may turn in my Pro-GM sticker, and I doubt I am alone. The Camaro signifies both GM's boldness AND GM's new commitment to quality moreso than any new car I can think of. While the Malibu will be the bread winner and it will show if GM can compete head to head against the best the Japanese have to offer, it isn't the lightning rod or symbol that the Camaro will be. The GMT900 trucks while they have great interiors are NOT 'no compromise' efforts. The 30+ year old 4.3 V6 and the 4 speed autos, while both reliable, are 'old school' GM looming its ugly head. It was the 'good enough' mentality, the 'it will do' mentality that brought down SO many of GMs promising programs. The bean counters won on those fronts because the 4.2 I6 and 6 speed autos would have made the GM trucks completely unbeatable. Instead they are saddled w/ the old tech because it was good enough. Well the first thing you need to do is make sure you don't go down GMs formerly traveled paths: rebates, fleeting, decontenting, and gimmicks (Red Tag sales et al). I say add in new equipment to the vehicle, even mid year (even if it costs more!). Keep the pricing the same but add content like Bluetooth, Ipod integration, standard SatNav. Introduce the Redline model when available. Offer new wheels every other year to make more unique combinations. But most of all Ensure that the dealers aren't screwing the pooch. They need to know that a powerful, well thought out, long term strategy is in effect that ensures their future success and the brands. Saturn dealers need to know that the long term is key and not the short term. Small will be Big. Lets be real: the US is facing conditions that it has NEVER seen before. Gas prices are rising at rates unheard of. The housing market went WILD and now is cooling faster than lava under the ocean. We have more 'consultants' and 'anyalysts', no offense, in this country than we do people actually doing the work (or so it seems). When I read that a company, like Best Buy, reports its earnings and they are under the anaylsts expectations so the stock falls it pisses me off! A company is devalued not because it didn't make money but because it didn't make enough to suit some else's idea of what it should have made.Having gotten that out of my system let me continue. Small cars will continue to play a more important role in the US market. The Japanese import brands grew organically because they began with small cars which gradually grew up with the population's needs. As the Civic becomes to big to fit the original target it had, as a small good mileage economy on the cheap, Honda introduces the Fit. Same thing w/ the Camry->Corolla, Corolla->Yaris. I also see the population becoming more accepting of non-traditional offerings, 5 doors and small crossovers. This is partly thanks to the SUV craze of the 90s. AH-HA, while I could never accept the position (it is not in my plan for life) I would be interested in hearing your opinions on my response as well as varied topics. I know what happened in the past has caused you to be guarded and rightfully so. But I hope you continue to be a part of our little communitiy.

No, Chris just stated that the OHV Gen IV LSA is the powerplant.

Right but the EPII will likely be the same size.

Great read. It sounds a little what I wrote in the Toyota overtakes GM thread.

That is a WHOLE lot of structural changes/suspension changes needing to be done to make a sedan outta Lambda.

Those are some BIG leaps to make. Lets remember Chevy already has the larger EPII FWD Malibu, which looks to be the hit that GM has been searching for in this segment for decades. The RWD Impala will be a LARGE car bringing in a higher price, even if at a lower volume. Between the two there should be no loss of RETAIL sales. Chi doesn't exist, it never did and EPII isn't getting much larger than Malibu. Also the Volt was a compact car. It may appear larger but it is Cobalt size, and should it reach production it will be a compact/subcompact car.

Ewww! Must find better example to erase ugliness from mind! Thats better. That being said my wife dinged my MC w/ her Malibu yesterday. I pulled in her car next to mine w/ enough room to go to the second hold notch. Get out and go to the trunk to get the groceries out. [bANG] Me: "What happened?" Her: "Oh, nothing." I stop what I was doing and go look. She must have kicked the rear driver's side door open or something because she hit my car had enough to scratch off a small nick of paint! Not just a tiny ding or a scratch, but down to the PRIMER! That being said the MC has mouldings but since it was with the rear door it was above the protection line. I would preffer to have mouldings on my next car but it isn't 100% a must have.

I agree about not marketing them or even making it easy to find out info about them. But despite that I saw a TON of them! Literally 4-5 around where I lived in KY and around 4-5 of them where I live now in MO. Also the ZQ8s were MUCH more common.

[Jedi mind trick]These are not the Coupes you are looking for.[/Jedi mind trick]

It looks like a gap b/t the 1/2 clay and the mirror.

Sigh. GM took away the best looking and 2nd best looking Colorados. The two that would have been on the top of my list if I were buying.Maybe they will bring back the Xtreme style appearance w/ a V8 model.

So GM has redone how the group design studios? Interesting.