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It's a Long Island Rail Road thing. All LIRR trains run from Eastern LI to Penn Station. The major lines all combine at Jamaica before heading into Penn, but if you want to reach Brooklyn or somewhere else in Queens, you have to "change at Jamaica"...this really decrepit old station in a decrepit section of Queens. I've never done it, but even the three minutes that the train sits at Jamaica is too close for comfort for me.

You might be from Long Island if: You live in the shadow of the greatest city in the world, but you almost never go there. When you're away from Long Island, you love it and when you're there, you don't. You think if you're not from Long Island or NYC, you're not really from New York. You know the exact point at which Queens turns into Nassau simply on intuition. You don't go to Manhattan, you go to "The City". You never realize you have an accent till you leave. Everything north of the Bronx is "upstate." New Jersey sucks. At some point in your life you've gone clamming. Either your parents or your grandparents lived in the city. You'd pay $11.50 for a movie. You don't live in Long Island. You live ON Long Island. You know where the Commack Motor Inn is. Your distant future might involve the state of Florida. You can correctly pronounce places like Ronkonkoma, Hauppauge, Wantagh, Mineola, Islandia, Massapequa. You know the location of 6 malls and a dozen McDonalds and 36 7-11's. You never, ever want to "change at Jamaica..." You've tried to find the Amityville Horror house. No, you don't want mustard on that burger!! You can't understand why a diner would ever close. You've had a seagull crap on your car. You have or someone you know has fallen asleep on the LIRR and ended up in one of these three places; Babylon, Port Washington or Hicksville. You went to an elementary school that promoted dodge ball as the number 1 game among children 7-13. You know White Castle is terrible for you and the food sucks but you periodically "Get the Crave" You want the Yankees to stay in the Bronx, but would probably go to more games if they moved to Manhattan. You think that somehow, the Jets and Giants still play in New York. You've missed that "Drunk Train", the 2:42 out of Penn and had the dreaded wait until 5:30. You or someone you know has owned an animal that came from North Shore Animal League. Quick! Who's your county Executive? Don't know do you?! You've never taken an MTA bus. The Long Island Expressway isn't really as bad as everybody thinks. You don't associate Fire Island with gay men. You know which parts of the Godfather were filmed on Long Island. You've paid a $10 cover charge to get into a bar, but got nothing for it. You miss wiffle ball and running through sprinklers. You think Islip MacArthur airport is cute and you enjoy watching it grow up. Billy Joel said it best, "either you date a rich girl from the North Shore, or a cool girl from the South Shore". You don't really see the big deal about the Hampton’s, unless you got smashed at the Bordy Barn. When people ask "where are you from?" you answer Long Guy Land and automatically assume everyone in the world knows that answer means New York. You've always liked Billy Joel and you own several of his "records." The Belt Parkway sucks! You've been stuck in a traffic jam for more than 2 hours (without moving). Your parents took you to All American, Nathans or Carvel (on the way home from the beach). Regular gas - $2.69 and you still pay it!!! You hate paying tolls. You don't have to go far to see your family. You remember Grumman. You've gotten drunk on the bleachers of some high school. You know the color of the water at Jones Beach is not BLUE! You were upset when all the Roy Rogers turned into Wendy's and Arby's closed for good. You can spout off all the LIRR stops between Penn Station and Ronkonkoma. Paying $35 for a haircut doesn't sound so crazy. You think the people from Brooklyn are "da wunz dat tawk wit a accent." You went sledding in the sumps. You've partied on a golf course in the middle of the night. You knew of Massapequa before the Amy Fisher-Joey Buttafuoco nightmare. You think going to Queens was a hike. The first time you heard the term "Long Island Iced Tea" you were somewhere else and you laughed. When you live somewhere else and are astounded to see that people actually stop at yellow lights. When you just sort of presume that wherever you live, you'll be able to find good delis, good pizza, and good bagels. You can name at least three bands that came from Long Island. When you walk in the city and you see two men holding hands...it becomes normal to you. No word ends in an ER, just an AH.

That's not a virus, but there's probably a patch that fixes it from MS. Just go to Windows Update and it should find a patch and download it.

Here's a silver SS/SC with no wing at all. He paid something like $320 to have the holes welded shut and the trunk repainted to match the car. and an Arrival Blue one with the low-profile wing. Not a big fan of the debadged look, though. I love the big bowtie, it's a nice reminder as to who just whipped your ass. Man, all these pictures of SS/SCs, and I'm gonna have to learn a stick and possibly do something that could cost me a lot of money.

Meh, I could do without it. I'd much rather have the low-profile wing like my car has. If I were buying the SS/SC I'd do what I could to twist their arm to get them to swap either the wing or the trunklid with one from a normal Cobalt. I don't know for sure if both wings use the same mounting holes.

'blu, go take a 2.4L Cobalt SS for a spin again, then get back to us about that Yaris :AH-HA_wink:

GM is not that dumb. Holden's not quite the "spare part" that the author of this article thinks it is. The bulk of all RWD engineering for GM global is done in Holden, and we could say bye bye to Camaro, Impala, GTO, and any other volume RWD vehicles that GM has planned if they decide to part with Holden. GM looks like it's commited to riding this thing out with the brands it has now. All of them, like it or not, are tightly integrated into GM global, and ripping one out would do more harm than good.

Go to http://housecall.trendmicro.com. It's a free online virus scanner. Once you get it out, go buy an antivirus program. I'd recommend Trend Micro's PC-Cillin. We use it at work and I have no complaints, plus it doesn't entrench itself into your system a la Norton Antivirus.

Happy Birthday, Northstar. Go celebrate in the GTO :AH-HA_wink:

NUMMI has outlived its purpose. GM clearly does not need Toyota anymore.

Just give me a kickass stereo and buckets that hug me nicely, and I'll be OK.

Why is a clock that's separate from the radio an indication of quality now? I've always associated it with cheapness, as the radio manufacturer didn't have the knowhow to run both the clock and the radio in the same readout. In any case, as long as the clock is visible when you need it, who the hell cares where it is? I really think that we're splitting hairs now. I guess it's good in a way, since we now have to split hairs to compare a GM's quality to a Toyota's. I'm not a fan of the new Camry at all, for the same reason I've always hated the Camry. The design does not appeal to me. Fortunately for us we're living in a time where you're no more likely to buy an inferior automobile from GM than you are from anyone else in America, Asia, or Europe.

The coupe I think would translate very nicely into a hatch. It already has the fastback roof/trunkline going for it. It wouldn't look that much different, and you would gain some utility.

I...I...I....can't vote. I want them all.

Is this Carrie - the one you went to see in Houston or something?

No, I mean, make it black like on the Roush G6.

I'd also try painting the molding below the windows

Yes, it was the Monte, I believe. "How can GM be so cheap?" was the complaint. For the record, I have the exact same keyhole in the exact same location, only it's underneath a bowtie instead of an arrowhead. I don't mind its presence one bit. In case my remote dies (and I'm dumb enough to ignore the DIC warning me to change the battery, which I am), it's nice to know I still can get into both the car and the trunk.

The G6 GTP is rather aggressively geared at 3.69 (or 3.62, I can't remember), so it surprises me that you're more impressed with the mid-level Monte, with would definitely have a smaller gear ratio. Still, I like most of the things I'm hearing about the engine. Montes aren't bad cars if you like that styling. I had one in my crosshairs until one day I was looking at a side profile of a base '05 model and just said "Oh my God, YUCK!!" really loudly. A couple of weeks later I put a deposit down on my Cobalt.

My guess is it's either this one: your "sister" or this one:

Obviously I approve. Of both the car and the color. Tell your parents I said congratulations. When are you getting yours?

If anything, the SSR is evidence that perhaps GM shouldn't listen to what consumers want, and instead just build whatever their scores of market researchers and bean counters tell them to. GM did what it thought people wanted, and got burned for it. EDIT: the preceeding paragraph was mildly facetious SSRs are fine vehicles. Spend some seat time in one, and you might come to appreciate it. The interior is the best available from GM at the time. The bodywork on it is amazing from close up. And of course, they turn heads. I'm glad they kept the folding roof, but I think they could have brought the price down by eliminating some of the creature comforts that it came with. Also, the concept was shown with the 300hp 6.0L from the trucks...I wonder why it never got that engine. My father and I are both on the lookout for one at the right price.

3.6L HFV6 with direct injection?

Never been drunk. I've reached a level of "buzz" maybe five times my whole life, and that's from ONE drink.

Fraternity - ernity = Frat. I think that's the connotation Enzora was referring to.