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I just answered my own question after watching this video... http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Gener...rticleId=116460

Wish my '68 was done, would've loved to bring it up... actually just wish I could've made it up there. Being a special invite, how did you get invited?

Wonder if GM will make a hybrid version, it really needs one to compete with Camery and Accord.

The rear lights of the car in the spy shots just have basic round trailer lights installed in the rear, there's a good chance that the Malibu will not have round tail lights. But I still wouldn't rule it out.

This is insane, looks like the auction was pulled though. GM needs to have more regulations and guidelines for dealers to follow. GM's sales would be a lot higher if more people could have a decent experience at a dealership. http://5thgencamaro.blogspot.com/2006/08/d...sits-again.html

2.5 years is a long time, how long does it typically take to design the neccessary machinery and create a full working assembly line? Guess we'll just have to look at the prototype at the next 2 NAIAS's

Silver is just one of those colors that looks good on any vehicle. For example, if you had a new Av and new Camaro, red would look good on the Camaro but so so on the Av, while pewter looks great on the Av but would look bland on the Camaro. But silver looks good on both.

How much will this impact the auto industry? This won't be a quick fix, and after the prices rise, they will never come back down. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060807/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices_6

Camaro to roar back in 2008... Does that mean it will be in showrooms a year from now or that GM will start setting up manufacturing and tooling in 2008 (meaning 2010 or later production)?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Not McD's!!! That's horrible :angry2:

Yet another point... say your hauling a small ATV in the back of your Ridge like Honda show's on their website, then you have a flat tire, what do you do? With the ATV in the back you can't access the spare tire! The tire is really only accessable if the bed of the truck is empty. I guess if your hauling an ATV you need to have ramps with you, but it's doubtful you'll fit ramps in the back along with the ATV, or a couple passengers to help you left the ATV out of the bed of the car. Too bad you couldn't haul the ATV with the tailgate shut like you can on an AV.

I'm wondering this as well

Oh BTW, the 5.3 is also a flex fuel motor... enviromentally friendly!

If the fuel economy is anything like my '03 Av, the '07 will be getting 17 city and 22-23 hwy in real world driving. My '03 is rated at 13-17 but gets a consistant 19.5-20.5 hwy and I get around 16 putterin around town and back and forth to town from home. With more power/torque you aren't on the gas as much as you are with a lesser torque/power motor. As far as Utility, don't forget the Av also has 2 locking storage compartments along with the locking enclosed rear bed + midgate. So with the Av you get the 2 storage compartments to the Ridgelines one (though the Ridge's one is probably same volume as the Av's 2). Problem with the Ridge is that if you have a load in the bed, now you can't access the compartment unless you unload the bed so you can access it. That there is a minus. Now you also have the Av's larger rear bed that has more volume and can open up larger by use of the midgae. Plus the hard tonnaeu keeps it locked up and dry. As far as safty, take a Ridge and a Av facing each other 600 feet apart and then mash the gas on each and drive them into each other.... which one would you rather be in? Seriously, I want you to answer this one! The Av is so much more of a vehicle than the Ridge, after all you comparing a car to a truck. The Av gives you more grunt, power, towing, hauling capacity, versatility, interior room, etc. for a very minute difference in price. And it get's practically the same milage. The Ridge's milage is piss poor for a small V6 in a lighter car like vehicle. I also want to note, after fully inspecting a fully loaded Ridge at NAIAS this past Jan, it is blatently less luxurious than the Av. The seats are small and offer little support. I purposly checked out the Ridge due to all the comments about it in mags and being picked as truck of the year. The interior materials are nothing but hard plastics, the same materials the media used to always hound GM about. While looks are based on personal opinions, my personal opinion is the new Av has 3 times the interior that the Ridge has. Better seats, a LOT better looking dash, and lots of interior room.

So Toyota with almost half the monthly sales thinks they are going to overtake GM??

The only way I care to have a manual is on a weekend driver sports car. Other than that they are not reliable in higher milage and have piss poor resale value.

So Wal Mart is going to have it's own car dealer network now?

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Anybody else notice the purple fuzzy dice in the window?? LOL!!

http://biz.yahoo.com/weekend/mostrecall_1.html

Yup, rotating mass. That's why all the high fuel milage cars have dinky little wheels. razorsedge, Awsome sig pic! 250LM right?

Why?? As far as I'm concerned, the 4.8 doesn't need to even be in the mix. What happened to the 220hp 4.3??? All they need for engine options is a 220hp 4.3, 5.3 and 6.0. There are no manufacturing cost savings in making the 4.8 vs 5.3.

I think the only thing I like better about the Outlook over the Acadia is the exicution of the rear end. Mostly in just the tail lights and exhaust.

The milage seems about right for it. The Toyota RAV4 with the 269hp 3.5 V-6 is rated at 29 hwy, but weighs 1200-1300lbs less. 4mpg differece seems about right considering the weight difference. If it's anything like our Avalanche or Alero, it'll actually get 27 mpg hwy vs the claimed 25.

Finally a realalistic article on Toyota, read on boys. This from autop news. Edward Lapham is the executive editor of Automotive News. He writes commentaries for Automotive News online every business day. His commentaries also can be found here. EDWARD LAPHAM COMMENTARY 7/11/2006 Toyota shows that invincible companies are human, too Edward Lapham | | Automotive News / July 11, 2006 - 4:14 pm It always happens. Just when you have the universe figured out, up pops some nagging evidence that Toyota isn't invincible. You can discount the New York sex-abuse scandal because it didn't really have anything to do with building or selling cars. You can forgive the engine-sludge mess because Toyota eventually came clean and tried to make things right with most of the customers it earlier had blamed for not taking proper care of their cars. You can overlook the Toyota Echo because the company yanked it off the market when it became clear the little car was a mistake. You can even excuse the roll-up windows in the base Toyota Yaris. But no way would you expect Toyota to derail its disciplined product program by keeping the current Corolla on the market for six years instead of five. One theory is that Toyota was stunned by Honda. The 2006 Honda Civic -- selected as the 2006 North American Car of the Year by a panel of 50 independent journalists -- is available in three stylish variants, including a gasoline-electric hybrid. Since the Civic and Corolla compete against each other, Toyota took an extra year and scurried to tweak the Corolla for North America. The official version is that Toyota is so busy introducing swell products all over the world that it just didn't have enough engineering talent to get the job done properly on schedule. Either way -- outfoxed by Honda or stretched too thin -- it's not a pretty picture. But the real shocker is the unfolding product recall scandal in Japan. Three current and former Toyota officials face criminal charges for failing to file a recall report when they knew about a safety defect for eight years. Toyota says the whole thing was a misunderstanding, and the company will cooperate with investigators. It still could cause problems. Just ask Mitsubishi. Six years ago, it was discovered that several Mitsubishi executives in Japan had been covering up safety defects for decades. Mitsubishi sales in Japan tanked as the public lost confidence in the brand. The shame was so bad that executives wore their Mitsubishi logo lapel pins upside down. And when the company hit bottom, DaimlerChrysler refused to pump in more capital, ultimately selling its stake in Mitsubishi and pulling out of the global partnership. That forced the Japanese automaker to seek financial help at home. The Toyota recall case isn't likely to be anywhere near that cataclysmic. But it does reminds us that behind the seemingly invincible Toyota façade, people run things. And people are, well, human. Kind of makes you wonder about the universe, doesn't it? You may e-mail Edward Lapham at [email protected]