Cmicasa the Great

I will add that the Chrysler 200 has strong sales right now, but a strong amount is coming from Fleet sales as it is a replacement car for both the previous 200 and the Avenger.. which sold on the same lots everyday of the year before. The 200 is a much better car than either, but it still isn't the epitome of efficiency.. thus my statement about mass efficient vehicles to off-set CAFE penalties of selling the SRT models and Ram

FCA's troubles are Debt. Quite frankly I think that the pairing of Chrysler with Fiat only put off another inevitable BK.. third one for the company for all INTENT. People talk trash about what Daimler did with Chrysler, but in reality Sergio is kinda doing the same using it to keep Fiat afloat. The only thing that really is, business wise, good going on at FCA right now is Jeep and Ram.. and Ram only because it is selling well via incentives and old as hell underneath. U can bring up Hellcats all day long, but they are not the stuff that make a company stay around very long. Right now FCA isn't moving on new tech or upgrading vehicles in hopes that it can merge with another "sucker." I say another because GM was that sucker back in 2002 when it allowed them (Fiat) to leave the Empire and take $2Billion with nothing relevant to show for the money spent. At the very least it should have taken Ferrari. But alas.. FCA is essentially made up of companies that would find it almost impossible to survive on their own.. or were on their own and had to be combined to sustain life. Sergio, right now cannot afford what's coming on his own.. hence his reason for wanting to merge with someone else... and if U notice he completely avoided the most obvious choice, PSA, because he knows that they are fundamentally in the EXACT same situation. Both need a larger company selling almost or more than double to survive... leaving only GM, VW, Toyota, Hyundai or a combined Nissan/Renault.. and maybe Ford. VW and Toyota won't touch him. GM won't touch him. GM was the most obvious choice because it would automatically put them both at a level so far above all others that the savings opportunities would be worth it. Combining with Ford would make them on par with what Toyota, GM and VW get from Suppliers.. which isn't enough to pull FCA out the $h!. What is kicking me in the head is with Carlos Ghosn's once great desire to merge with GM.. why is he not talking with.. NO.. moving forward with a merger of Renault/Nissan, FCA, and a pull in of PSA to make the a 14-15 Million a year seller conglomerate. Of course the problem would still remain initially of only one company within bringing home any bacon.. and that one would be French/Japanese, and Ghosn would titty f@#k Sergio daily THIS is the big concern I have with Mopar as a whole. Product-wise they are kicking it, but their finances are pretty precarious. My worst fear is that Sergio uses cash from Ram/Jeep/Chrysler in particular to prop up Fiat in Europe. That would be a disaster. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS DOING. Right NOW. And product-wise, they really only have stand-outs at Jeep.. and their SRT/HC models. That's pretty much it. And that really relies a great deal on the V8.. which is becoming more and more scarce and toxic to a company post 2016 without any real mass-selling efficient cars.

To some degree... it is essentially already happening, as many of the suppliers are selling to all manufacturers. Engines, some transmissions, and styling are the most exclusive components to each company. Right.... Serg is looking to expand that. The poorness of his timing can be summed up in one word: Takata No doubt. True savings might be better found at this point in returning to a time of captive manufacturing. What I would love to see is a GM takeover of Magna... they could do it, and they are GM's main supplier.

Chairman of Fiat/ Chrysler, John Elkann, confirmed that CEO Sergio Marchionne had sent an email to GM to suggest merging

To some degree... it is essentially already happening, as many of the suppliers are selling to all manufacturers. Engines, some transmissions, and styling are the most exclusive components to each company.

Starting to think that U are in denial. Every source on the planet says Sergio asked GM for a merger... He wants a whole bunch of consolidation in fact. The financial issues of FCA have very little to do with Fiat in the U.S... it has everything to do with Fiat minus acquired Chrysler. There is also an issue with transaction pricing and incentives of acquired Chrysler. 4GODSAKE look at the profits.. or lack of. BTW.. The Buick brand is selling over 1 million globally.. but most will only quote U.S. numbers despite the U.S. Numbers being only 25% of its total sales. Buick is up for the year, and its weakness comes from the market wanting CUVs over cars at the moment. Ironically,.. the Encore and Enclave are up 20+% last month And I love the idiotic attempt, but let's use facts if U are going to try and eff with me.. Cadillac's best selling model this year is the SRX... it was up for last month as well. The Escalade is its second best, and both are most likely equally profitable by percentage due to this being the SRX's 6th year on the market and being partially based on a global platform utilized by other high selling divisions. The XTS isn't doing so bad either, technically.. again on a shared depreciated platform. When U go for the jugular at least kno what the eff U are talking about. The CTS and ATS are both the slow sellers at Cadillac versus competition, but for reasons to do with selection not quality or lackluster ability.. The ELR really has no competition so what's the gauge? For 2014 Cadillac, in the U.S., dropped 6.5%, but fail to mention that in Global sales it actually went up 6%.

Because there is always.. and I mean ALWAYS.. a bright side... and yes.. he tried to race Sasha as I passed him B4 the GF snapped a pic

Sorry to say, but I have to agree with Casa here. If FCA wasn't in pretty bad shape they wouldn't be looking for partners to help keep them afloat. In reality I think very little of that is the Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/Ram portion of it, but you can't just look at them separately. Fiat is not selling here in the states, and the 500X isn't going to make a significant difference. They're just hemorrhaging too badly in the non-Chrysler portion of things to stay afloat for any extended length of time without either finding a partner or... I don't know, I'm not sure if product-wise there is a way for them to keep going long-term. I don't like it, and I don't want to see things happen that way, but it does seem to be the way things are heading. I think it would be easier for them to find help if they tried to sell off the Chrysler bits separate from the rest of FCA, but they can't afford to do that because what is left will just tank even faster. If they could sell the other divisions they would be better off, but nobody wants to take on that debt, especially since it only shows signs of continuing to grow. So, they have to try and move the company as a whole, and even still it hasn't proven to be an attractive enough opportunity for anyone to want to step up. I said before that I think the warranty reduction is fine and makes sense, but that doesn't mean that some of the motivation wasn't also to try and save some money and hold off going under for a little while longer. The effed up part is that if FCA were able to convince buyers, meet demand, and utilize profitable platforms, not to mention manage Alfa, Maserati, and Ferrari they could have a line-up similar to what VW has with Audi, Porsche, and Lambo. They are basically similar in that regard. Fact is the Fiat part of Fiat is probably their worst part of the corp. Chrysler/Lancia, Dodge/Ram/SRT, and Jeep are pretty much the VW/Seat/Skoda equivalent. The problem is that Ferrari is too high end, Maserati is somewhat insignificant in this day and age, and Alfa died in 1990. To save FCA.. Sergio absolutely needs to get with another company. He needs this like a junkie needs not just a fix.. but to get knocked up by a 1970s-90s rock star so she can constantly have a source of funds to get that fix. OH.. and I would love to see GM still getting Ferrari if Sergio were to put it up for sale.

Bud... U are barking up an otherwise "Don't Give a $h! one way or Another " tree. If U didn't read it.. eff I care. I typed what I typed because its the truth. It contains not one bit of fanboism or homage to GM.. in fact it insults GM old management for being dumb enuff to fall for the Agnelli Rope-a-dope. Mary didn't.. She told that clown to put his peter back in his pants and go wag it at the French.. Germans.. or Japanese. The Chrysler Co not including the other parts of FCA are still in debt because FCA is using them for leverage in the market. Saying what U said is like a wife saying that her live-in, loving, and "no chance in hell of divorce" husband, whom all her credit is jointly owned, has 460 FICO, but her's is A-1 The warranty thing is no issue for me..I wouldn't buy their $h! if it again.. AGAIN.. had a lifetime limited warranty.. which it did.. then it dropped to 100K.. now down to 60K. And for the record they suck because they are not American anymore, have, evidenced by YOUR OWN chart, some of the worst reliability on the market.. have old platforms.. and their one.. maybe two tick pony is their Jeep brand which is about as much JEEP as Mini is MINI.. and the Hellcat engine pushing 707HP. What else they Got???

FCA's troubles are Debt. Quite frankly I think that the pairing of Chrysler with Fiat only put off another inevitable BK.. third one for the company for all INTENT. People talk trash about what Daimler did with Chrysler, but in reality Sergio is kinda doing the same using it to keep Fiat afloat. The only thing that really is, business wise, good going on at FCA right now is Jeep and Ram.. and Ram only because it is selling well via incentives and old as hell underneath. U can bring up Hellcats all day long, but they are not the stuff that make a company stay around very long. Right now FCA isn't moving on new tech or upgrading vehicles in hopes that it can merge with another "sucker." I say another because GM was that sucker back in 2002 when it allowed them (Fiat) to leave the Empire and take $2Billion with nothing relevant to show for the money spent. At the very least it should have taken Ferrari. But alas.. FCA is essentially made up of companies that would find it almost impossible to survive on their own.. or were on their own and had to be combined to sustain life. Sergio, right now cannot afford what's coming on his own.. hence his reason for wanting to merge with someone else... and if U notice he completely avoided the most obvious choice, PSA, because he knows that they are fundamentally in the EXACT same situation. Both need a larger company selling almost or more than double to survive... leaving only GM, VW, Toyota, Hyundai or a combined Nissan/Renault.. and maybe Ford. VW and Toyota won't touch him. GM won't touch him. GM was the most obvious choice because it would automatically put them both at a level so far above all others that the savings opportunities would be worth it. Combining with Ford would make them on par with what Toyota, GM and VW get from Suppliers.. which isn't enough to pull FCA out the $h!. What is kicking me in the head is with Carlos Ghosn's once great desire to merge with GM.. why is he not talking with.. NO.. moving forward with a merger of Renault/Nissan, FCA, and a pull in of PSA to make the a 14-15 Million a year seller conglomerate. Of course the problem would still remain initially of only one company within bringing home any bacon.. and that one would be French/Japanese, and Ghosn would titty f@#k Sergio daily

The only way.. but in reverse.

Missing something about your comment Smokey... the 760i already has a 535-hp, 6.0L twin-turbo V-12. With that power it should essentially already be called "M7." In other places there was such idiotic outrage, usually from people who had not one iota of chance of ACTUALLY buying one without a lottery hit, when the CT6 was announced with a 4cylinder as an OPTION no less. Of course from what it seems like the CT6's 4 cylinder option will be mated to a hybrid drive line.., and even if not.. a 2.0L Turbo kicking out 270HP and pushing a car that is lighter than the next sized down car the very same 2.0L is in seems to be a non-issue. The back-pedaling I have heard from others, on other sites about BMW doing is hilarious. The excuses for the Germans and Japanese never get tired it seems.

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For the Gen2 CTS-V, which at the time was the only VSeries, the take rate was 9%

Just saw the question.. sorry. Uuuum because the 2015 one is damn near identical

I grew up.. see that 3rd house on the left Altho most people only kno this: I now live in a well to do party of Baltimore Co. called Hunt Valley. I own properties in Eastern Shore, MD, Columbia, MD, Miami, and Atlanta.

Next car: 2016 Cadillac CTS-V Current cars........... 2015 Yukon SLT (Catherina) 2014 Stingray Z51 (Sasha) 2014 Impala LTZ (Aline) 2012 CTS-V Coupe (Raquel) 2014 Verano Turbo (purchased for ex) 2010 Yukon Denali (ex has at other house in S. Jersey) 1966 Impala SS 396 2door (owned by my father and me) Previous 2011 Camaro RS (Taja) 2007 Chevy Tahoe LTZ (Anya) 2010 Malibu LTZ 2009 CTS-V (Pearl) 2008 Corvette Z51 (Katya!!!) 2006 G6 3.5L (Peaches) 2004 Grand Prix GT 2005 9-3 Aero 2005 STS 4.6L... Smooches (Lovely II)... I won't forget we had. Corvette C5... I miss U (MaryJane ) 1979 Corvette L82 (Lmas) 1995 Corvette LT1 (Root) 2001 Yukon (Dutches) 1996 Lumina (Lumy) 1983 Z28 ( Divinity ) 1976 Camaro (Lache) 1977 Regal (Aniche) 1990 Iroc Z (Moon) 1973 Caprice Classic convert ( Lovely I) 1993 Trooper (Motel 6) 2000 Trooper (Troop Troop) 1992 Protege ( Wheel Bearings ceased, Cataclytic Con. SHOT, Tranny a mess...but BOy was it a fun car ) 1989 Tercel ( left me starnded on 83 South..engine blew completely, Bearings gone) 1996 Camry (Engine Ceased up on me...Sludge. Battled with Toyota to buy back..WON) 1994 Camry ( had it for 2 weeks and sold it ) 1995 325i ( Electrical issues galore, Engine just STOPPED, locked up. To much to fix, sold for the Body and tranny) 1984 Celebrity 1990 Reatta 1986 Celebrity 1965 Mustang convert 1971 Spitfire 1964 Starfire 1994 Nissan 240 (electrical Issues GALORE, Windows would go up..but not come down..would come down, but only go up in the morning...sold about 6 months after I got it) 1990 Nissan 200sx 1963 Impala SS 1969 Chevelle SS convert

I didn't realize that each forum has its own Mod. Makes sense..

^^^^^ but Stew.. I think my point is made with that chart as well. Lol. With exception to Ram, every FCA brand is below the industry average. Fiat itself is last place

KENT NARROWS? Cool! No doubt... U've been??? Cool place. Thinking of buying another property down there or St. Michaels, then a 30-40 Footer to pull up to a house on the water I lived on the Eastern Shore for 27 years, went to school down there. Lived in Centreville and Easton. Love St. Michaels, too. Still have family down there. Crazy.. I spent many a summer in Princess Anne, Pokomoke and Salisbury

in fact U have to remember him from AWCC as Grk4Me. Back then he was cool.. but then Ford musta threatened to fire him unless he ONLY talked about Ford

LOL.. This is the guy that they were talking about. Prepare to be bombarded with Blue Oval BS to the point of nausea.. Truth or Lies.. to Wings.. it makes no difference.

KENT NARROWS? Cool! No doubt... U've been??? Cool place. Thinking of buying another property down there or St. Michaels, then a 30-40 Footer to pull up to a house on the water

I'm pretty sure Sergio saw GM doing it and decided to follow. It was most likely thrown on the table a cost saving measure as will consider the amount of debt that the company currently carries

I dunno.. with a Fiat.. it may be a weee more necessary to hold on to that 100K number