Cmicasa the Great

In his defense I think the SUCKER he was talking about was U... I kno for a FACT.. that I certainly was. But then again.. make no mistake.. I'd certainly take this: over this...: if the Benz was free.. simply to find a SUCKER like U and sell it to so I could, buy the 'Slade... pocket the $45K difference to get a sweet new: to use as DD

So instantly U forgive them for selling people shit... for minimum the last 20 years. And that's me giving them the benefit of the doubt that a platform that was engineered during the Carter Admin was good up to the Bush I admin

Dude every time Smk says something about Benz fit and finish... I think I will reference how this ... SMDH wasn't even a step up from this from the 1970s-80s GWagon.. the Official vehicle of the... ABA.. no not the BAR ASSOCIATION.. the outdated and defunct

SUCKERS is the key word. Its for the suburbanite who has to tackle the sand dunes at the local Costco, Dunkin, or higher end Crate and Barrel

U are quickly becoming an apologetic sap for these German brands when evidence constantly proves U wrong. I guess U are trying to be a devil's advocate.. but...The first pic is the one that had me laughing the hardest.. fuck using it as a cup holder.. cut the bottom out and let's play Hoops using balled up receipts Pathetic people ever make a negative statement about an GMT800 Tahoe again, let alone an Escalade or Denali.. or a 900 or K2xx

Said it a thousand times.. only in the U.S. is Mercedes considered a Luxo-Only maker. They are essentially Chevy/GMC/Cadillac/Buick.. just on a smaller scale

He won't.. he will continually move the post in either direction so long as it accommodates Benz or the Germans. GM, a downsized company.. leaner than ever.. managed too pull in $12Billion last year still with lawsuits from ignition over its head. For '17 they are at about $4 Billion (for Q1 and 2) down slightly because of the Opel sale, still a strong possibility to pull off $8-9Bil for the year GM have been historically about their truck sales more than anything else.. RWD TRUCK sales in the U.S. alone accounted for about 1.3 Million sales last year. IMO, car RWD sales are a luxury that GM affords.. but the economies of scale are carried forward generation after generation. That being.. these platforms are not costing them the billions upon billions that everyone whats to throw on them. Alpha and Omega are similar in many regards to the each other with the exception of certain weight saving techs that came about after alpha was already on the market.. bet good money that Alpha2 is going to be basically a scaled down version of Omega. I have also been told several times by GM insiders that technically a great deal of Alpha was really SIGMA.. as Sigma was a revised version of ZETA.. (or was it vice-versa?)

1) Cadillac's number one seller is selling not because its FWD, but because its their only CUV in a market that wants CUVs. Bet good money that if the XT5 was actually based on the CTS RWD/AWD it would sell in the exact same numbers, maybe more as it would then be able to also be an enthusiast's vehicle with the right optional driveline 2)If they weren't.. what would even be the point of re-engineering the platform? Despite its age it is still a fantastic handler, and one of the lightest in class... plus.. considering the bitching and complaining.. and it being the one real thing that most reviewers zeroed in on thru out its life.. I'd say most likely so. Also.. look what they did with the Malibu after similar issues with space in the 2013-15 models. That car has so much space in the rear now I could have a menage a trois back there and never get a charlie horse

Yes. Already in development Internal Codenames: A2SL = (Alpha) (2nd Gen) (SWB)( Cadillac)=CT3 A2LL = (Alpha) (2nd Gen) (LWB)( Cadillac)= CT5

ATS/CTS replacements' engine line-up is a no-brainer.. 2.0T, 3.0TT, 4.0L(?)T or whatever V8 is in the Camaro. That being said... CT3 and CT5 should directly be cousins to whatever the higher volume Camaro and Impala (yup.. I'm on that again). Personally I'm with Drew on this.. I think that JDN is being coy.. and we will see direct replacements to each car except the XTS, and there is a strong possibility that the we will be seeing the CT8 as well. Considering his philosophy at Audi brought us an A3(yes this was brought forth on his watch, before he left for Infiniti) A4, A5, A6, A7, and A8 even in today's UV climate I doubt we won't still have at least 4 cars at Cadillac. As to the Kia.. what's so surprising. All they do is mishmash other company's designs together.. call it theirs and put a decent sized engine in it that never gets the fuel economy they promise.. never really performs as well as the big boys.. and cheapen the price to get the wow factor from sheep who are looking to be led. And if U don't believe me.. take a stock V6 Impala.. challenge someone in Genesis or Equus V8.. and be prepared to be surprised that some how your 305HP V6 beat a 400+HP V8. Either Chevy is lying to us about the 3.6L being only 305HP or Hyundai is lying.. which happens all too often

Since we were talking about the 3 series and ATS, U are saying that they are inferior to others in their segment? Maybe I'm missing something but I could have swore that both of them are pretty much tops in this segment despite the fact that only one vehicle has really come out and took them down in performance, that being the Alfa Romeo, which is historically one of the shittiest companies ever to buy a vehicle from.. Who are these superior vehicles? Interesting enough both are at the end of their life cycle and still respectable

when your objectivity comes into play.. and it actually leads U to go out and buy a BMW )or otherwise in the lux segment..) instead of just playing them up.. come back to me. To me, long with great acceleration, limited NVH, smoothness.. a great powertrain is one that I am not always worried about fuckin up on me.. or not starting when I go fire her up.. and giving me anxiety when the warranty is almost exhausted

Sorry Slick... power trains are on par.. and on top of that.. they tend to be reliable unlike the POSs that BMW puts in its cars. Infotainment??? Naaaah.. I love CUE. Cue's biggest complaint was always that it was touchscreen. Me being a person in the modern age knows how to use touch screen quite well.. as I'm travelling down the road at 80mph+ texting on my cell phone and answering FB posts

1) According to U.. considering U are wanting to buy an ATS so bad.. I mean if it isn;t the best car in the class in YOUR opinion.. why U pining for one? 2) No.. they didn't absolutely copy what BMW was doing with the 3Series at the time.. they bench-marked the 3series that BMW had out from 1998-2006.. 6 years later.. because that was the last 3series to hold true to what made most fall for it in the first place. Had Cadillac bench-marked the E90+ and F30+ U might have gotten me to concur. They didn't,.. and BENCH-MARK is not copying. 3) No.. sorry. Perhaps if we were talking about BMW's 6 vs the LLT 3.6L.. or maybe even the LFX.. but the LGX is a very sweet engine.. and the power comes in quite nicely (even the LFX in my Impala is very nice..) and as long as U know how to drive U can render quite a few supposed extra tenths that BMW has on it pointless in the 0-60 contests BTW.. I see your 0-60 claims are coming from the 4 year old version of the ATS not the ACTUAL car that's on sale TODAY. The current car's performance numbers are much improved over those due to a new Tranny (edit... I see Drew schooled U)

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They did.. The ATS is a superior vehicle to the current 3Series in all ways I can see except the rear seat room which is irrelevant as fuck to me. The engines in the ATS, are just as great as the ones in the BMW. Say what U want.. I've had the pleasure of all and really what blew me away was the FACT that the boys at Caddy.. with just one try in a same sized vehicle finally.. were able to not only match, but exceed the class leader in sales and originator of the segment. That's the part U fail to get thru your skull. Every other maker.. Benz.. Audi.. Lexus.. Infiniti tried and failed for several generations with SAME SIZED offerings. Cadillac.. the Sofa of luxury finally gets rid of the idea of a tweener CTS (which used to lose to the smaller cars all the time due to being the same size as their larger sisters.. 5series.. E-Class.. A6 GS) and brings a new competitor.. FOR THE FIRST TIME.. and a COIN TOSS is the only way they can come up with a winner.. against the segment creator. The rationale is that U can seem to understand that I was using "Lincoln copying Caddy.. Camaro copying Mustang.. " as an example of the lunacy U kicked out concerning the ATS "copying" the 3Series. LINCOLN COPIED CADILLAC WHEN IT WAS CREATED BY THE SAME FOUNDER OF BOTH BRANDS.

Never said anything like that. Topnotch today doesn't meant topnotch tomorrow

I up your post because their is some validity to it.. but I would say that Cadillac is very capable of doing exactly what is necessary to beat the Navigator when it hits for real. Next Escalade is due next year for '19. Everything I have seen suggest that Cadillac will up the interiors.. up the lux.. and up the HP.. which is really the only thing I see as a superior trait of the brand new Navigator. Ford literally copied the looks of the Escalade/Denali and put its grille and badge on it.. so looks are not superior.

Cadillac never said they were copying BMW. But then.. even if they did they created a BETTER 3series in the spirit of the original than did BMW. And I stand CORRECT again.. about your buffoonery. Go back and read what I said.. "BY YOUR RATIONALE.." Ironically the Cadillac/Lincoln comment is hilarious since technically.. Lincoln was a copy of Cadillac after Billy Durant and Cadillac's founder Henry Leland parted ways.. causing Leland to go to Henry Ford and create Lincoln.

Not saying they are.. but point was they play to a certain demo.. I have long said that Buick should watch out for Volvo.. and actually Suburu as well. The Saab line should have been completely given to Buick after the BK.. the 9-4x should have been a alternative to the SRX from Buick tho. Hell when U look at Buick now they have the Regal which was a 9-3 Platform mate.. the TourX with reminds me a great deal of the SportCombi.. the LaX, which was a platform mate to the 9-5.. and for Subie.. they have GMC, which honestly.. GM should just integrate in sales marketing like LR/Jag does.

Volvo like Suburu operates quite nicely on niche customers. The two are more like APPLE than any other maker IMO. Globally Volvo is also like other Euro makers in that they have plenty of models that don't touch luxury.. they are more of a BUICK/GMCDenali competitor if we were using GM's brands. Yes.. Cadillac has technology that allows it to be BOTH. I can attest to the fact that MRC is both.. and the new generation, from what I am hearing is capable of even more.

U kno I will never give U credit for being the brightest bulb in the pack.. and nothin here is gonna change that. Similar dimensions DO NOT MAKE A COPY. The ATS is better than the 3Series hands down.. at least the mission the 3Series set out to be before it started copying the philosophy of LEXUS..soft sport/lux. The only real advantage the current 3Series has over an ATS is that it has a 1inch larger backseat.. something that apparently an ENTHUSIASTS such as yourself requires because hauling around your punk ass friends in the backseat is fun. The part I put in bold actually means that Cadillac is not copying.. but taking the creation to a higher, better level..aka IMPROVING. By your rationale every CUV that has hit the market with similar size to the Benz ML is a copy. The Camaro is a copy of the Mustang. The Lincoln brand is a copy of Cadillac. Lexus is a copy of Buick... I could go on.

But that's not the case completely. The Escalade, XT5, XTS and CT6 are pretty comfy. The CTS has always been more euro flavored in driving dynamics. That was the point.. as the ATS is now as well. They are literally being replaced soon. Not to mention.. the market doesn't seem to want floaty couches of yester- year anymore. The easiest thing for Caddy to do to appease people such as U.. and people such as me.. is tune the Touring mode to be more soft, while the Sport mode stays the same. MRC is capable of such. So much so, in fact.. for me.. I usually leave my car in Sport mode.

Personally I a bit lost on some of the statements. I grew up with Cadillacs in the house hold.. my parents bought used as they could not afford new ones.. but they were usually only 3 years old when they did. My dad a staunch GM guy.. was usually into Chevy's, Buicks, and Olds.. but my mom, being the woman that she is.. wanted elegant.. thus her '76 Riviera got traded in for a '79 Eldo.. then an 84 Seville.. and then.. so on. Those cars while elegant and full of luxury for the day.. were never even remotely sporty. They were great in their expression of what luxury was for that time.. but one has to modernize to compete. BMW was the target for Gen Xers.. and Millenials.. but not desirable by Baby Boomers as they retired. They are a blend of Sport and Lux. Cadillac, if they still adhered to the old ways.. would still be seen as stodgy and old.. by X and Millennials. The issue here is that BBs are in their 70s now.. cars for them will not be the concern in 15 years. A brand cannot survive on dying or non-driving consumers. Cadillac started on this new venture back in 2003, essentially with the CTS. Some can argue that they started with the STS and ETC in '95, but I just don't see it as clearly defined considering the most sporty thing about them was that they boasted the then techno tour de force Northstar at 300HP. With various tries.. and growth.. not failures.. because to change the way of business after 100 years.. rise, then fall.. then rise again.. innovation needs to happen. German vehicles were known as the Engineering giants in luxury. American vehicles were known for straight line, old school. Cadillac.. the premier luxury group in the United States had to be the one to step up.. and they have done a fine job. Fast forward to today.. I see the new line of products coming to emulate much of what was learned from the CT6 and Escala in terms of luxury. They will soften up the ride.. elongate the interior.. up the ante in luxury trim.. but still be bold while being some what conservative. The Cadillac that I own versus the three I owned before, simply put.. blows them away in every way. Not just performance but luxury. Yes... the Gen3 CTS-V rides more sporty than the Gen2s.. and my '05 STS. But the handling is next level. The only complaint I have of this generation CTS is that it only comes in one body style.. which makes zero sense considering that the competition comes in 4. BTW.. to the Lincoln comment. Lincoln is FAILING. Its no if ands or buts. 8708 sales last month with essentially 4 SUVs and a lower price versus Cadillac at 15,016 last month with essentially 2 SUVs, with the XT5 almost selling as many as the entire Lincoln line-up, cars included. Remember CUVs are the growth segment.. Lincoln has 4 vs Cadillac's 2. Both makers have 6 vehicles total. The Continental, cheaper, and more "traditional" was supposed to absolutely kill the CT6 hasn't lived up to the hype. That's with a same sized XTS, same priced on the lots with the new big Caddy also outselling the Continental, by 2:1. We can philosophize all we want.. but in truth.. the new buyers.. the modern buyers want Cadillacs over Lincolns ways of doing things. I don't see Cadillac doing anything but changing with the times. Their deficiencies lie in not having all the products that their competition has. Simple as that. I don't kno why it is even debated.. U can not beat a Mercedes, when they have products that compete with Chevy, Buick, and Cadillac under one roof, not to mention variants of those vehicles. Its not going to happen.. GET IT THRU YOUR HEADS!!!

Unless its a business expense it really is the way to go instead of leasing.