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Now that I look at it.. it was Dave quoting what U said. He does.. but my point still stands. EV is the way of the future.. or some derivative of it. ICEs running on Fossil fuels need to go. It simply is unsustainable Come to Baltimore.. areas such as Pikesville, which is a suburb. It literally has tens of thousands of homes just like that in the pic

AT4 and CT6 Supercruise. Seriously..and I mean seriously looking at summer 2019 for trading CTS-V in for CT6-V

@ocnblu Gotta be honest.. I've been a gear-head all my life.. but I don't get your hate of EVs. If they look good, go fast, and can handle.. I really don't have issue with them and see the positive ramifications for the future considering this planet is bordering on 8 Billion people. Get rid of half of them and the ICE is fine I guess.. but the environment simply can not sustain the ICE much longer. If your issue is being able to WORK ON THEM... tear one down.. and learn how it works. Ironically U have a Henry Ford Quote in your sig... here's another one.. that rings true and should be remembered as we move forward into the future “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” Anyway... As the industry continues to shift towards a CUV heavy line-up.. I love that GM is standing fast on still producing cars as well. Got me to thinking that perhaps the one things that FCA has done right is stick to their guns on design.. which sounds crazy considering that they really haven't redesigned much in the last 10 years. Think about it... their biggest sellers are the Challenger, Charger, Jeeps, and Ram.. all of which essentially look the same as they did 10 years ago. and none of which are riding on any new platforms sides a few augmentations here and there. THIS IS TOYOTA PHILOSOPHY that won them a lot of perceived positivity. Just keep improving on instead of re-engineering and there is no way the design/engineering can let U down.. because its the same thing over and over again. In fact.. people become used to it even if its nothing extraordinary and almost need it to look like that. BASICALLY if the Camaro had of stayed on ZETA or even switched to Alpha but retained this look (including the taillight assembly) sales would still be thru the roof:

Its hypocrisy at its finest. I have yet to meet a Land Rover that didn't have an engine or tranny issue within the first 20K... I haven yet to meet a Jag that did not at some point have the dashboard light up like it was Christmas Eve

I said it once and I'll say it again.. outside of the S-Class, GL-Class, AMG, SL, and upper EClass models.. Mercedes interiors are no better than my Impala LTZ's interior. I mean it too. There is NOTHING inside that suggests that "this car costs $20K more than a mainstream vehicle." Its why I always find myself perplexed.. confused.. when comparisons are made between say a CTS and an E-Class.. and the reviewer, usually from Motor Trend, says the Benz interior is better. I'm like are we looking at or sitting in the the same car. In terms of this I've been in the High Country, Denali, Limited, and Big Horn.. and This is in no way looks to be on their level in terms of LUXURY

interesting enough... being a gear head for most of my life.. the Plastic Engine Oil Pan is the biggest concern I have . Not because I believe it will melt.. but that if it is not reinforced or protected by some sort of plate.. it could be cracked if it hit something hard enough on the road

The reality is finally catching up with the Japanese makers.. They just are not as bullet-proof as mofos would have had people believe for the last 20 years. As more HP and efficiency is needed.. more innovations and streamlining is required. They can't get away with 100hp engines that have been running on the same basic engineering for decades to see them thru anymore. It would be like GM still offering a Gen I "Small Block" Chevy engines in everything.. but only essentially changing the cast from iron to aluminum and carburetors to fuel injection

Walking Dead was fantastic last night. Maybe I'm sentimental but I really liked Judith's drawing in the background of her and Carl Second... Man I wish Cadillac would realize its wealth of heritage and truly go after the Germans... covering all bases necessary. Friend of mine has a Mercedes AMG GTR. Its almost as quick as my Manual Z06, but not as fast as the Automatics.. but shit.. who cares? Its a segment that if I wanted to buy a Cadillac in.. I couldn't.. and it SUCKS that GM won't make it a priority while they will have a FE Corvette and a ME Corvette being sold. The additional investment to make a Cadillac Corvette would be nominal.. and even tho there would be probably be only about 30% of the sales the Vette gets monthly.. IF DONE RIGHT.. it would be more of a image vehicle for Cadillac than this is for Benz. And when I say DONE RIGHT I simply mean styling and interior. Initially I wouldn't even venture to tell them to switch to the BlackWing engine.. just stick with the LT4 and LT5 for V-Sport and VSeries notions. YES!!! The 400HP+ LGW 3.0LTT V6 would be my base.

WEALTH!!!

Considering the amortized costs of the XT5 being a platform mate to the Acadia, the Enclave, and the Traverse (LWB) I would say that your cost for the XT5 might be actually be spot on or even slightly high.

The upgrades are already implemented in the new '19 XT5, including updated Wireless Charging, NFC and other upgrades to CUE.

and .. people who want an actual great car and not a effin POS with a luxury badge sewn on.

@ocnblu Define and show when the FOLLOWING began. By your statement Cadillac could only follow itself. It for all intents.. is the only member (along with Lincoln) of the luxury set invented in the 1900s that still exists. Remember Mercedes was not always a luxury maker.. not in the beginning. The STANDARD.. was Cadillac.. It fell off when buyers started going from luxury to sport luxury in the early 90s. Did they follow BMW or Benz.. or simply adopt certain ideas within an emerging segment? By that I mean... BMW followed Cadillac into luxury.. no different right now if the Camaro was a Brand.. and it decided to start luxurizing every model. Cause that's all BMW was.. a sports sedan.. the luxury part came in the mid-80s. Same for Audi Furthermore.. some who have this idea of RWD being the epitome of luxury really have it all wrong. AWD is the real hero of luxury.. and being able to augment that AWD is even more so.. Cadillac's Sport mode and U get a 20/80 front/rear split, Tour gets 40/60, and Snow mode splits it right down the middle. I love that. In fact I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the reason why AWD is standard in almost all iterations of the CT6 is because Cadillac decided to profitably package an upgrade in that cost them little, but offered a justifiable reason to charge more for the product. The silliness of people talking about a 204 inch, 122 WB large luxury car in the same terms as they would a RWD Camaro is ridiculous. The same goes for the HIGH UP vehicles..aka CUVs. Having a weee bit more power in the XT5 and XT4 as an option is 100.. but the chassis for at leats the XT5, as I haven't driven the XT4 yet, is perfect for 100% of the people buying them. AWD is a luxury. Offering AWD all the time is offering a luxury ALL THE TIME. For some reason I find, more often than not, on these forums, that many forum goers feel that limitation of choice is the desire of most Luxury buyers. As a luxury buyer I whole-heartedly would like to disagree with that notion. Marketing should certainly steer buyers in the direction of the AWD version for profit reasons, not to mention performance credibility. While the segment does not demand super performance, having a car this large, a large saloon, being capable of great handling is a plus. The CT6, still imo, is offering AWD for marketing purposes, not to mention built in profit. That is the absolute only reason the Audi A8 sells AWD-only here, yet offers a FWD version in Europe. With this car the absence of the weight penalty usually associated with AWD allows Cadillac to sell an AWD model at 95% of the line-up and still be lighter than many of the single drive competitors and @smk4565 Great engineering to the rescue.. want to talk lackluster engineering? Call me when BMW devises a way to have a start stop system that doesn't make you feel like you're shaking out of the car... their Start/stop system felt like I was having an epileptic seizure. Seriously. Stop Trolling. NOTHING.. and I mean NOTHING brings out Trolls more than Billy Goats, Mad Dog 20/20, and Cadillac

Hence... updates for the XT5 are ready for 2019

listening to the biased bullshit that comes off SMK's keyboard is a march onward into insanity. The reality is that Cadillac never needed reinvention.. they just needed products that were revolutionary. The first CTS was the springboard that promised to launch Cadillac into the new century. CTS.. then the XLR.., the Escalade .. then the SRX.. then the STS. What destroyed a great deal of promise was the simple fact that Cadillac was in the hands of GM during a time of survival. Seriously.. think about it. 2000-2009 was a dark time. Not just for GM, but the entire American 3. The interesting part is that they had the formula partially correct under Lutz's direction. The Second Gen CTS was a hit. The STS.. now faced with a still similar sized new rival costing less.. even lost me as I went with my first CTS-V after a brief 1 month stint with a horrible quality M5. But here is the kicker.. and timing was everything: We can skip to 2011. The long promised STS replacement materialized into the XTS.. the XTS was originally supposed to be a replacement for the DTS named XLS.. They mergered the STS and DTS together, and went FWD based due to costs and timing. The SRX, Caddy's sole CUV was selling like hotcakes, especially compared the RWD model. Here's how I think things could have stayed the course The CTS should have been down-sized to essentially the ATS on Alpha. Hindsight suggests that the car spies should have spied on BMW a lil better and saw that the 3Series was gonna add a lil more space in the rear. A simple "scallop" of the back of the front seats would have shut a bunch up about leg room. That being said.. the CTS should have never lost its position. All variations should have been reintroed for the 3rd gen.. Wagon, Coupe, Sedan, Vert... V for all 4 The STS should have remained. It should have been the current CTS.. again.. more legroom for the bitches who bitch. A WAGON, a Sedan, a Coupe, Vert and a V For all 4 would have sufficed SRX, along withe the BRX (smaller) should have been as they are.. FWD based. Same size difference as the XT5 and XT4, with a AWD only variant of the Lambdas at the time as an ERX XLR should have remained.. Gotten C6 and then C7 bones instead of it being a C5 variant as it was. Furthermore the engines should have been no different than the Vette's. As in a XLR- with LS3, XLR VSport- LS7 and XLR VSeries LS9 Escalade should have been pretty much what it has been with a more powerful 500HP+ engine option to go head on with RRover. The XTS (or what was also called XLS and DT7) should have been introduced on Omega.. essentially what the CT6 is, but add back in that 10% they took out to have it go full on with the S-Class. That includes exactly what is getting ready to happen with the 2019 model year. There should have also been a coupe XTC The name thing is negligible now.. what's done is done. The XT5 and CT6 names are very well known and I hear people actually knowing what they are upon sight.. even women. The new names will settle in fine if Caddy properly announces them and does so in a way that does not confuse returning customers. I can tell U straight up that people would go in dealerships looking for the "small" Caddy and find that it was no longer called CTS.. it was now a smaller ATS. No warning.. no announcement. The switch to XT5 was done well. The intro of the XT4 is going nice. The thing they need to do at the Auto Show is have an EV and VSport version of both ready to be shown and ready to launch by Spring 2019. The thing is that my plan isn't even hard to replicate, and truthfully GM has all the parts to do it.. cost effectively.. but alas.. that cost was probably $100 over what some planner budgeted for it so it was scrapped.. instead of just saying "FUCK IT.. charge the customer's $400 more for it."

not my kid LOL

and as to the trunk.. apparently U can put a kid back their and the backseat with a booster

OR... the price was too high for admission as Chevy seems to think. I'd wait and see. It seems plausible that if Dodge and Ford are kicking out lower end models with a cheaper entry price then it would spawn sales. Again.. looks are subjective. Personally I think the retro looks of all should be re-evaluated. BTW.. amd I the only one who wants to punch a mofo in the face the next time I hear the term "Gun-Slit Windows?" Its stupid.. and writers sound like a copy cat bitch when they say it

No.. that was the 2010-2016 C5 (Zeta) Camaro. It was on a full-size platform.. which was far heavier than Chevy wanted it to be. The current Alpha based Camaro is simply put.. the BEST performance sports coupe on the market hands down.. when it comes to performance.. which U'd THINK.. in the category it competes would be the thing to want.. BUT.. apparently backseat space is a thing when doing lateral gs of 1.01.. and 120mph 1/4s. Hell.. 0-60 in 3.9secs in a car that costs $37K is INSANE. And truthfully.. the styling issue with the Camaro really hinges on ONE THING.. the EMBLEM they decided to throw on the front for some reason.. other than that.. now after seeing this live pic and not Chevy's wretched CGI (why do they do that? ) I might retract my comment about it not being as good looking as the Mustang or Chally

Yeah.. they don't offer variations.. so why would they sell in the same numbers.. Its FACT.. one that detractors such as yourself love to ignore. I find it illogical and irresponsible for a supposed enthusiasts to not even recognize that there is ZERO way for an ATS to sell in the same numbers an C Class if it doesn't offer the same variety of ways to buy. and if GM decided to do a RWD Chevy sedan they could use one of two platforms.. the AlphaL or Omega.. depending on the desired size. It has occurred to me that due to the WHINING by certain reviewers who seemingly spend more time in the backseat of an ATS than the front.. that the Alpha (regular) platform may be scrapped in favor of the AlphaL used for the CTS and ATS-L (China) for the upcoming CT4. I also believe what I was told that the CT5 is actually on Omega already. Which would be completely plausible considering that the 5series is actually riding on a modded version of the 7Series platform

Damn Bro.. didn't U just say the market for such cars is dying?

What I'm often perplexed by the most is HOW THE HELL is the Challenger ever really being called a competitor to the Mustang and Camaro in the first place? By that rationale I should call my Yukon a competitor to the Rav4. Dodge 198″ L x 76″ W x 56-58″ H Chevy 188-190 L x 75″ W x 53″ H Ford 188″ L x 75″ W x 54-55″ H Yet the first page of this thread is littered with Trunk pics. Well YEAH.. the Challenger has a bigger trunk. Its a FULL SIZE car almost the same length as an XTS

And G8 prior to closure of Pontiac .

again.. not true. The ATS and CTS are not exactly US only vehicles... and do decently in China. This would be like saying Buick isn't a strong brand because they are only selling about 300K in the US.. when one looks at the real numbers.. they see an additional 1 Million Globally. I'm not saying the ATS and CTS are 3Series and 5 Series selling equivalents.. but I wouldn't doubt that along with the Camaro.. at least in the Global sense they are doing pretty decently. AGAIN!!! GM is not a singular company. Judging its sales on certain other targeted vehicles is not necessarily telling.

Hell no.. Why abandon a market that still brings in mad profit and in reality.. using the numbers of the Mustang and Chally only.. has only seen a 1% decline in sales with almost no real new investment dollars. With the Camaro, I bet GM is seeing as a platform car.. ATS/CTS/Camaro. Certainly better sales are desired.. but the Alpha platform is getting utilized profitably. Yeah.. I bet the Chally is extremely profitable along with the 300 and Charger.. but Jesus.. outside of Jeep.. where else is FCA getting profit from in the U.S?