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Cause U are and have always been a hater.. But.. regardless.. its like rationale and reality completely go over your head... cargo space is measured not only lengthwise but width and HEIGHT. WTF!!! would this Blazer, sleek as a mofo in the rear (because we enthusiasts asked Chevy to make a SPORTY SUV and they did) not have a lil less room than say the upcoming Passport which is about as sporty looking as a Subaru Forester.. a possible donor to the whole design of the Honda. The Equinox also has a less Sporty (than Blazer) cargo area design.
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#3 is the only one I have to call U out on.. All of the aforementioned stuff aside.. how can U, even as an obvious conservative justify staying that we really shouldn't already be embracing and mass producing alternative transportation modes, moving from a 100+ year fossil fuel addiction that will eventually run out? Gas/diesel is dirty.. its inefficient.. its hot. EV is clean.. cool... and very efficient.. The efficiency is even clearly evident in the fact that its power and torque is ready from 1 RPM.. vs having to turn the engine to the 1000s to really see true power
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Dude U are relying on anything U can to try and belittle a GM vehicle U haven't even seen in the metal yet..let alone driven of checked out.
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Yes... A Corolla is showing on Toyota's website as starting at $18,700K and the Civic is at $19,500 Exactly.. so why are we only relying on CARGO space dimensions as the defining characteristic of the vehicles overall space? I tend to wait for information before I make the kind of criticism that its getting on space.
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oh.. CAUSE ITS rwd? This makes zero sense in a world of adaptive AWD.. especially the advanced systems that are employed today. The Trav/Encl are excellent vehicles.. and I venture to say that it would be a waste to spend time arguing about track times of any of the three. Silly as a mofo in fact. What makes it worse is that if "whichwheel drive" is your thing what does it matter when the systems are able to go 100% to the rear. WTF are people gonna cry when they realize that the new C8 Corvette is most likely just this system ?.. It can be tuned to be sporty if necessary and I predict that if Cadillac simply goes into the treasure box of engines it will be fully capable of making this Lincoln also ran within no time. The Escalade will do the same with the Navigator Whats' the actual passenger space situation versus each other tho? That would seem to me to be a true reason to have a longer wheel base... not to mention handling and road going smoothness. I can't believe that an SUV fashioned to be sporty has a main function of Suburbanesq cargo space
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What @riviera74 and @Robert Hall said. The Aviator is Lincoln's rival to the upcoming XT6. And yeah.. Cadillac better come correct with their entry. Crazy thing is that they have all of the tools to counter it.
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U literally said something totally different on the other page.. were U just playing devil's advocate? U went so far as to say GM should exit the US market.. ? I'm confused This is exactly what they are doing.. and killing 6 vehicles while simultaneously introducing new vehicles that better fit market sales makes a lot of sense.. especially in some cases like the Cruze where the Sonic is already available AND... being made profitably last I checked. If the Cruze was not.. why keep it? Since the demise of the Verano.. the market share of the D2xx is smaller in the U.S. The Sonic can sop up Cruze sales while supplementing Trax sales. Perhaps GM is PLATFORM SALES biased (as they should have been all along) now.. and if that is the case.. the Trax/Sonic/Encore absolutely clobber Cruze/Volt sales This is not true. Unless they suddenly make an announcement that the CT5 and CT3 are now stillborn.. they will be on the market next year. The CT6 dying in the US, after 4 model years could mean that the brand saw little need to continue selling it with car market share dropping.. or they have a radical large car design in the works.. such as the rumored Escala .
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So... U proved me right?? Even more to the point was that the Blazer was created to give the Chevy brand a more Sporty and upscale CUV. Thus far..at least in looks.. the vehicle accomplishes that in spades. Incremental size variations are what they are. Interesting. The Trax/Equinox/Blazer/Traverse essentially are supplanting the Sonic/Cruze/Malibu/Impala dynamic.
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YEP.. this is an ANTI-GM message and automatically I say YEP.. My name is SMK4565 and I approve this message
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a lot.. and I mean A LOT of bull$h! in this quote. Still laughing at the "Cadillac is Toast" part.. because honestly.. even if Cadillac continued to produce the CT6, the only car being lost to them that wasn't known to be getting an axe., past 2019.. when were U planning on buying one in the first place?? Blazer has more cargo space than the Equinox..of this we know. Single compelling??? Marketing aside.. they do sell a $h! load of vehicles.. Trucks, SUVS, CUVs, Sports cars, Supercar, EVs..lotta bases covered.. I don;t think this news impacts sales very much considering the change in consumer tastes Then I'm wrong... I have it on good authority that they will simulate the noises if that's what U are looking for.. either way.. screw it.. U hate it then hate it.. I personally would love to have access to this engine for everyone of my vehicles.. from Z06 to CTS-V to Impala LTZ to Impala SS to Cruze to Yukon.. and that's a fact
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mind boggling.. seriously.. zero fuel, engine can be bolted up to a current transmission.. zero emmisions.. torque at git.. 0-60 in under 3 seconds and can STILL handle like a... a... CAMARO... OH.. its a GM product. If Ford produced it I bet someone would be singing praises.
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This is what I'm talking about.. 3480lbs of car.. and 630 lb-ft of torque available at 1 rpm
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So BASICALLY.. we should re-write the rules of the Stock market because the US Treasury didn't know when to get out or how long to stay in. Its sold its shares at the wrong time.. Bottom line. If I sell my shares of a company when its down.. I lose money.. if I wait and sell at the right time.. I make money.
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Haven't written this much in a while on any forum..? Anyone notice that COROLLA sales are down 15%? Civic 28%? This is a real thing. Cars, at least in every segment outside of Sports and Mid are simply dying.. as one can get a categorized TALL-CAR for the same price with more room and similar fuel economy. This is not the days of U had to buy a compact to get great fuel economy.. no.. the CUVs are getting similar fuel economy to the cars. In other word this isn't a time anymore where it was a Cavalier vs a TrailBlazer.. the time now is a Cruze vs a Trax or Equinox
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I think the thinking is that if the Volt is dead... those sales will probably go right to the Bolt. I could see that too. The Volt is at Detroit-Hamtramck which is getting the axe.. furthermore the Volt was up for a redo in 2020.. Who says that the Volt is really dead? It may just being renamed and reconfigured (FINALLY) to be a CUV EV in line with the Bolt. AGAIN..
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Well DAMN.. I was reeeeally looking forward to some extreme bar hopping and binge drinking without having to pay Uber and Lyft $70 on a Friday night. Either way.. Autonomous driving is the SECONDARY portion of all this.. hell.. even the EV part we won't see in complete realization for the next 5 years. But.. at the end of 2019 six vehicles (LaX, Impala, XTS. CT6, Volt and Cruze) are DEAD!!! And will be replaced somewhere else.. GM is trimming fat in its employee line-up which is the real story being reported due to Trump's announcement to cut subsidies.. which BTW.. even GM is asking.. "What Subsidies" considering in a few months the Tax credit to SHOPPERS is gonna run out as Tesla's has already. Again.. if the Cruze is being replaced by a larger Sonic.. and the Spark is gonna continue as an EV along with the Bolt.. that makes sense.. and I have suggested it many times in the past. I would have rather kept the Cruze name but hey.. to @Robert Hall's portion about GM/Ford/Chry not being able to produce a profitable compact in the U.S... I say interesting enough the SONIC was actually being produced at a profit while being built here. Also.. the domestics issue with compact cars laid not so much in the cars.. but more so in the marketing.. and their want to spend that marketing dollar on trucks and suvs.. ironically now. Part of that marketing issue laid in a thing as simple as NAMES. The Corolla has been a name since 1966. As $h!ty of a car as it is.. It's formula isn't much different that it was then either.. and it has sold a $h!-load. Oh.. the formula= BASIC transportation with little to know innovation except necessary safety features so we can sell in that territory. Oh.. and a name that U remember. On good authority Chevy's Cruze was originally called Corvair (well kinda) , then Vega, then Monza, the Cavalier, then Cobalt, then Cruze. I also have it on good authority that damn near every negative thing that has happened to those cars that needed be called a massive recall happened in some way to varying degree to the Corolla.. but TOYOTA.. Toyota said keep the name.. and push thru it. Hell, if the Cruze was just still called Cavalier.. it would be well known enough that U could have sales on par with the Civic. The last generation Cruze was for a while in 2010 the top selling Compact if my memory serves. LOL.. look at me messing up part of my argument for GM's new edict on innovation... by saying that Toyota may have been right by NOT innovating. In fact.. Chrysler is currently making profits and has good will from enthusiasts for using a formula that has literally been around since the first GTO debuted. The architecture of their cars is 20 years old literally, but they sell because of good marketing and the simple act of putting a big engine in a car so it goes fast in a straight line.. the VERY THING THAT GM and FORD were criticized for thru out the late 80s-and 90s for when the European cars started becoming popular. Now.. I could damn near out handle a Challenger SRT with my YUKON. SMDH. America and conservatism are gonna kill this country's leadership at some point I fear
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So let me fund Honda's vision.. or Toyota's.. or BMW's??? Protest change by funding other companies' change.. cause its coming.Best believe The "ABILITY TO DEAL WITH AN UNPAVED ROAD" part.. So by that U are saying that after U drove.. after the press drove the Blazer.. it couldn't deal with unpaved roads? Yeah.. because nothing says "we're a Jeep or Hummer" like matte black on the front... anyway.. Post a review.. any review.. and not just pamphlet words from an Autoshow Honda rep. Some one mentioned V6.. What did I miss? The Chevy has a V6 in the Premier and RS.. 3.6-liter V6 making 305 horses and 269 pound-feet vs the Passport's V6 @280 hp and 262 lb-ft of torque.. OOOOOHHHHH.. because Honda decided to only give U one choice.. and we hate the fact that GM is giving us an engine choice... Price.. correct me if I'm wrong but they all start about the same projected price if the Ridgeline is an indicator.. OH! V6 vs V6 price only.. well there U got me.. but again I point to the fact that on the Chevy I'm getting more HP and more torque.. and the price of the Chevy with the V6 is coming with AWD.. cause the way y'all are kicking it the Honda comes with STANDARD AWD.. which is WRONG!!! Furthermore the Blazer AWD system is very capable as it is supposed to be the exact same as in the Acadia and XT5. Also.. far as I know.. and this the kicker. As of this writing.. a few months from now I walk into a Chevy dealership and the seemingly SAFE from Kill-Off SUV/CUV line-up is Trax, Equinox, Blazer, Traverse, Tahoe, Suburban.. at Honda.. HR-V, CR-V, Passport, Pilot.. I would say I'd rather take my chances at Chevy LMFAO at the idea that now we are hating on GM because it is embracing FAR-SIGHTEDNESS... because we love the smell of gas and oil. I promise U... I'm more of a car guy that many.. and if it comes to me having to buy a Corvette or Cadillac or Chevy.. a Buick.. hell a GMC.. with a power-train that is capable of 400+ Miles with me not having to spend $50-70 on gas... I'm all for it. Add in the benefits of Zero Emissions, extreme acceleration and extremely limited maintenance.. and I'm on board. On to a different portion of this.. Far as I know.. Autonomous driving will not be the only mode of transportation. If that is a setting.. I'm all for it. Plenty of times I hang out too long and dribk too much.. wouldn't have an issue with my car demanding I take a quick blow-Sobriety check and then say "Shut the f@#k up.. I'm driving Cmi.. "? Oh.. its gonna be an argument...? I'm gonna tell that car to f@#k off... but then its not gonna start.. have me sit there for a minute.. serve me another WhistlePig?.. and I'm gonna shut the f@#k up and awaaaaay we go.?
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Hold up... hold up.. U think this looks better than this Dude.. U done bumped your goofy head
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if their life depends on it,, I believe they will make it mainstream. That's it.. That's it.
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If that's the case.. no offense.. those workers and their family.. and their friends.. are gonna get what they deserve if the plant closes. Seriously. The CRUZE is a top notch small car. Its reliable.. good looking.. quick.. has plenty of tech. I tell people all the time that in Germany and Europe... VWs sell because the IG Metal Auto Union has many workers.. and they understand the idea of reap what U sow. Hell I look like driving a Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, and, Kia compact sedan when my family.. friends.. work at the Chevy plant? "Hey Dad.. why can't we eat tonite? " "Well Sandy.. U and your friends bought a Civic made up in Ontario" I don't get it.. but U're right.. CARS are just not what people want anymore on mass versus the CUV. Its literally in the numbers. Not one announcement by GM that anything sitting lower than a Trax was gettin the axe.. not even the Bolt.
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I agree on #3. I don;t completely agree on #1. I stand by the possibility that because Chevy is one of the few builders with not one.. but 4 Small cars in its line-up.. it makes zero sense to keep all of them.. as I have stated for years concerning the Sonic/Spark and Cruze/Volt.. constantly stating that the Volt and Cruze should have always been one vehicle.. and the Sonic.. being the bones of the Trax, should have always been allowed to be the only sub-compact instead of having to compete on lot with the cheaper Spark
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I also maintain that I think that research went into where to yank product. Looking at the situation objectively.. if U look at Buick.. the LaX is the one to go.. especially since the XTS is dead.. At Chevy.. the Impala would have again stayed coupled with the CT6 on Omega.. but I have to believe that Chevy is not completely pulling a "1996" and abandoning full-size for SUVs again.. making the case for the sudden emergence of the FWD based Blazer make sense. The CRUZE.. again.. if the Sonic is gonna stay, and its essentially going to move up in size slightly.. kill the Spark and be... WAITTAMINUTE.. Could they be keeping the SPARK name alive and putting it on an complete line of EV cars? Like Chevy "Spark" Chevy Bolt etc.. but all of them EV? So why not keep the Volt.. a perfect EV play on words too? Cadillac ? Maybe they needed to make room.. for this.
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As an enthusiast.. this is horrible news from General Motors.. that leaves a great deal of us scratching our heads wondering how a company like this can: 1) Not have an entry level sedan such as the Cruze when there exists a Civic, Corolla, Maz3, Elantra? 2) Not have a Large sized Impala or Large Lux CT6, both which have been acclaimed vehicles since they arrived? 3) Kill the LaXat Buick and Volt at Chevy? But then I see the Rivian.. and Tesla.. and Bolt. and realize that GM made this announcement almost 2 years ago and no one paid attention.. Definitely not me. Remember the announcement that GM wold have 20 new EV vehicles by 2023 Got me thinking.. Could this be it? Is this the date of change.. sorta like a GOING ON-LINE DATE? Thinking.. Why would U need a Cruze sized vehicle if the goal of the Cruze was to cut emissions? An EV would instantly do that. I will be the first to wonder why the Volt would be killed.. as it would be the perfect name to simply go all electric is we are at the point that we can do so with better range than even the 250 miles range of the 60 kWh Bolt. Surely GM can beat the Rivian's range estimates of 300 miles for the 135-kwh, 400 miles for the 180-kwh, and 230 miles for the 105-kwh. Obviously to me.. the lost of the Impala and CT6 are the most hurtful.. as I was planning to get a CT6-V at the end of the year. I realize it will be available.. but how rare will it be. Future classic no doubt. Still knocks me in the head that the Omega platform was not utilized in such a way that it accommodated not only the CT6, but also the Impala (merged with SS). Alas.. ACCEPTANCE is what it is.. if GM is doing what I said above, because lets face it.. if they don;t move ahead with electrification.. they are DONE in 15 years. I mean it. IF THIS IS THE PLAN.. then applaud Mary Barra, an engineer by training. A lotta people are thinking about the Human factor concerning the lost of thousands of jobs.. Baltimore is slated to lose 300 jobs. That hits close to home. EV and Hydrogen powered vehicles will sit along with the Gas/diesel ones for another decade I'm sure.
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and again.. the article reads... "The plants up for possible closure are" now according to Webster's... being what may be conceived, be done, or occur according to nature, custom, or manners
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also... Why is that part.. particularly the bolded being ignored also? Negotiations and "carrot/stick" moves have to be put in place. Again.. I understand consolidation of underutilized plants.. and even merging a few vehicles. Personally I have never understood why the Spark and Sonic existed together.. In fact.. many times I went on record here saying that the TRAX should have simply been a TALL Sonic.. kill the Spark. The Volt too.. I could never understand why it simply wasn't called the CRUZE HYBRID.. sales would have been the same or better.. and the idea that having a separate vehicle similar to Toyota's Prius was unnecessary for GM.. they aren't using the VOLT name to make themselves seem more green.. so why bother? I see billion of marketing dollars going to the Silverado and its spawn.. and just thousands of dollars going to the Volt and Bolt.
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