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TOTALLY 166504[/snapback] You both realize none of those apply to the almost-as-ancient Lucerne? The Lucerne offers a suspension that's farthest away from dives, rolls, bucks, bobs and bounces. The Lucerne's proportions and overhangs are inline with its direct competition: the thoroughly modern Avalon:Avalon Length: 197.2 Wheelbase: 111.0 Difference: 86.2 Lucerne Length: 203.2 Wheelbase: 115.6 Difference: 87.6 1.4" difference between their overhangs. Lucerne's extra length is all in its wheelbase advantage, not in "dated" proportions or overhangs... and Lucerne offers larger wheels. The Lucerne is a large car, but packaged with plenty of front & rear leg room... not to mention a larger trunk than the direct foreign competition. As Fly stated, and I agree... the G-body is still the single best FWD car platform today

1st: 3 2nd: 13 3rd: 1 4th: 2

(GM divisions & products exempt) Over-all inferior products: Kia Amanti Kia Optima Mitsubishi Galant Chrysler Sebring Dodge Stratus In lower Trim levels (CX, CXL - Competitive in price, standard equipment, & options): Base Chrysler 300 Base Dodge Charger Base Ford Five Hundred In CXS form - competitive to: Ford Five Hundred SEL Chrysler 300 limited (still only a V6) ------------------------------------------------- When the LaCrosse debuted in 2004 as a 2005 model, it was competitive or better than the existing: Toyota Avalon Toyota Camry Hyundai XG350 Hyundai Sonata Ford Taurus - given Mercury Sable - given Mitsubishi Galant - still Chrysler Sebring - still Dodge Stratus - still Anything Kia - still Anything Suzuki - still And competitive to (in CXS trim): Honda Accord Nissan Altima In its 3rd year, it seems to be a generation behind (since everything has been updated and remodeled), but it was competent and a completely competitive package with the then-current competition when it debuted. GM & Buick were playing "catch up" with the LaCrosse, which was a success. The LaCrosse is about to be refreshed for 2008 with an early 2009 release for the all-new 2010MY LaCrosse.

Hey! Don't insult my Pug like that! She's cuter than the new Camry! (I'll add pic later) lol

The Impala is well equipped. ABS is available on all models, and standard on the LT3, LTZ, & SS. By 2010 ABS, TC, & ESC will be standard on every GM vehicle. WCCPSGM - There's a difference between 'Head-Curtain Side-Impact' airbags & 'Seat-Mounted Torso Side-Impact' airbags.

Ah Man... I thought this was going to be a recall notice.... To soon?

I think Reg loved Mitsubishi... After Mitsubishi dies, maybe Reg's love for Toyota could work the same Magic!

So are the D-Pillars

Yep... he did it...

Here are a couple more of me:

Still :rotflmao:

Well, the SRX's UltraView sunroof isn't standard equipment like the tC's panorama roof, so the SRX's problem doesn't impact every SRX sold.

Self-explanatory!

I hope you applied for your Texas Passport 6 weeks ago, or they won't let you in: Have a great trip!

I've been in several... and have test-driven Lexus too. Thank you. Lexus of Bellevue is currently building a new dealership from the ground up which I will visit when it's completed. I'm not ignorant to GM competitors...

WooHoo! Buick may break 300k in China this year! Sounds great!

Yeah... Buick61 seems to be right. Appears to be Studebaker... 1953 Fashion Academy Award winner...

Japan Mulls Legality of N. Korea Strike By MARI YAMAGUCHI AP TOKYO (AP) - Japan said Monday it was considering whether a pre-emptive strike on the North's missile bases would violate its constitution, signaling a hardening stance ahead of a possible U.N. Security Council vote on Tokyo's proposal for sanctions against the regime. Japan was badly rattled by North Korea's missile tests last week, and several government officials openly discussed whether the country ought to take steps to better defend itself, including setting up the legal framework to allow Tokyo to launch a pre-emptive strike against Northern missile sites. "If we accept that there is no other option to prevent an attack ... there is the view that attacking the launch base of the guided missiles is within the constitutional right of self-defense. We need to deepen discussion," Chief Cabinet Secretary Shinzo Abe said. Japan's constitution bars the use of military force in settling international disputes and prohibits Japan from maintaining a military for warfare. Tokyo has interpreted that to mean it can have armed troops to protect itself, allowing the existence of its 240,000-strong Self-Defense Forces. A Defense Agency spokeswoman, however, said Japan has no offensive weapons such as ballistic missiles that could reach North Korea. Its forces only have ground-to-air missiles and ground-to-vessel missiles, she said on condition of anonymity because of official policy. Japanese fighter jets and pilots are not capable of carrying out such an attack, a military analyst said. "Japan's air force is top class in defending the nation's airspace, but attacking another country is almost impossible," said analyst Kazuhisa Ogawa. "Even if Japan's planes made it to North Korea, they wouldn't make it back ... it would be an act of suicide," he said. "Japan has no capacity to wage war." Despite resistance from China and Russia, Japan has pushed for a U.N. Security Council resolution that would bar nations from buying or otherwise receiving missile-related items, materials goods and technology from North Korea. A vote was possible later Monday, but Japan said it would not insist on one. "It's important for the international community to express a strong will in response to the North Korean missile launches," Abe said. "This resolution is an effective way of expressing that." China and Russia, both nations with veto power on the council, have voiced opposition to the measure. Kyodo News agency reported Monday, citing unidentified Chinese diplomatic sources, that China may use its veto on the Security Council to block the resolution. The United States, Britain and France have expressed support for the proposal, while Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso has said there is a possibility that Russia will abstain. South Korea, not a council member, has not publicly taken a position on the resolution, but on Sunday Seoul rebuked Japan for its outspoken criticism of the tests. "There is no reason to fuss over this from the break of dawn like Japan, but every reason to do the opposite," a statement from President Roh Moo-hyun's office said, suggesting that Tokyo was contributing to tensions on the Korean Peninsula. Abe said Monday it was "regrettable" that South Korea had accused Japan of overreacting. "There is no mistake that the missile launch ... is a threat to Japan and the region. It is only natural for Japan to take measures of risk management against such a threat," Abe said. Meanwhile, a Chinese delegation including the country's top nuclear envoy - Vice Foreign Minister Wu Dawei - arrived Monday in North Korea, officially to attend celebrations marking the 45th anniversary of a friendship treaty between the North and China. The U.S. is urging Beijing to push its communist ally back into six-party nuclear disarmament talks, but the Chinese government has not said whether Wu would bring up the negotiations. A ministry spokeswoman said last week that China was "making assiduous efforts" in pushing for the talks to resume. Talks have been deadlocked since November because of a boycott by Pyongyang in protest of a crackdown by Washington on the regime's alleged money-laundering and other financial crimes. Beijing has suggested an informal gathering of the six nations, which could allow the North to technically stand by its boycott, but at the same time meet with the other five parties - South Korea, China, the U.S., Japan and Russia. The U.S. has backed the idea and said Washington could meet with the North on the sidelines of such a meeting. Still, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill questioned just how influential Beijing was with the enigmatic regime. "I must say the issue of China's influence on DPRK is one that concerns us," Hill told reporters in Tokyo. "China said to the DPRK, 'Don't fire those missiles,' but the DPRK fired them. So I think everybody, especially the Chinese, are a little bit worried about it." The DPRK refers to the North's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Hill is touring the region to coordinate strategy on North Korea. He has emphasized the need for countries involved to present a united front. "We want to make it very clear that we all speak in one voice on this provocative action by the North Koreans to launch missiles in all shapes and sizes," Hill said. "We want to make it clear to North Korea that what it did was really unacceptable." Associated Press writers Audra Ang in Beijing and Chisaki Watanabe in Tokyo contributed to this report. Link to Article

Check around... the rest of the country has never seen a LEXUS dealership like that either.

Yeah... It gives the CTS coupe some breathing room, but I'll even admit that the new 3-Series coupe is beautiful. The pics at TCC make it look fantastic. It will command the price premium if the CTS coupe has any flaws. I'll give Cadillac credit though. The few glimpses that we've seen of the next CTS make it look class-leading inside and out as well. This will be fun to watch.

'Buick-Pontiac-GMC' dealers need a minivan... but I still think the top-of-the-line luxury GM minivan needs to stay with Buick.

Here's June 2004

Who can we personally blame for Acura's 19.4% drop this month? I can hardly call Ghosn trouble over this considering where Nissan was when he rescued it.

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Acura did not have a good month at all...