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As empowah mentioned... I have a Thrifty Rental across the street from Bellevue Buick-Pontiac-GMC. They always have at least two 300s sitting out front waiting to be rented. and if you STILL don't believe it and want to deny it... check out Thrifty's rental vehicle line-up on their website: http://thriftyrentals.com/ourcars.aspx

Well, if GM wanted to charge $20k to $30k more for a DTS then Cadillac would offer more luxury/ultra luxury features but lets be realistic... a top-of-the-line & fully loaded DTS will still be less expensive than a base Lexus LS430. To get several of those luxury features on the LS430, you'll have to go up to and over $70k which the DTS doesn't even come close to in price.

Just to mention, I see LaCrosses all the time in the Seattle & on the Eastside... So they appear to be selling quite well up here.

That's good to know that the last LeSabre hasn't been made yet... It deserves a proper farewell considering how long it's been in production.

It doesn't mean dealerships aren't offering the discount on 300s... For example: http://www.nalleychryslerjeep.com/Specials-New.aspx

Just filled up for $3.03 a gallon... that was for Premium Unleaded. Regular is still hovering around $2.90.

Yeah... I think he was too... here is another site: http://cadillacbicycles.com/ :D

GM & Shell announce partnership: http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/adv_te...ell_050103.html GM's Advanced Technology information site for Hydrogen/Fuel cells: http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/adv_te..._fcv/index.html Fuel cell Milestones (progress): http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/adv_te...milestones.html Shell's hydrogen and fuel cell technology site: http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=hydrogen-en

I think it already happened back in May 2005. I believe Hamtramck has already started producing the 2006 Cadillac DTS.

Yeah... $3k is a big deal when it comes to content on economy cars. For the price of the Mazda, you could have had a fully loaded Cobalt LT w/Leather interior + simulated wood trim (that would have helped with the "budget & stark" feel), power everything, side curtain airbags, and upgraded stereo with XM radio.

Great pic. :) Hmmmm... but (as others have mentioned) it does appear smaller than what I thought a Zeta vehicle would be. Will Zeta still be in SWB & LWB versions? Because Torana was suppose to show off the potential of a "Beta" platform... Why my concern? A Zeta vehicle should not be close enough in size to cause confusion between it and the up-coming (smaller... almost compact) 2008 Cadillac CTS. That just seems to be "Beta" territory. Maybe a SWB Zeta can be small enough to cover the compact/midsize segment?

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Why do I feel you use that method in more than one situation? :P :lol:

I really can't see how someone not grossly familiar with SAAB 9-3 would know the BLS is related (how many can there be... honestly). There's very little shared inside & out that would actually hint to the design not being original to the BLS. Sure it's a compact & FWD, but a lot of premium European cars are. It looks good to me. I think it would look better in a different color. The blue that it originally debuted in was very nice.

Have you tried viewing C&G in IE? It might have to do with you using Firefox... Here's how I see the Forum:

Sometimes personal observation does not equal reality. The article even explains that is what they're doing: Buick started doing this in 2003... notice that 2005 is the 3rd year in a row for market share drop/sales drop. 2003, 2004, & now 2005. Q. How can retail sales be up when overall sales & market share are down? A. Fleet sales have been reduced.

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Okay... to break some of this down... let's see: 1) Sales declining: but This means Buick has been selling less to fleet and more to customers... hence the percentage drop in overall sales. GM announced years ago that Buick would be slowly backing off from high amounts of fleet sales. GM NEVER stated they would increase retail sales to compensate on a "1 to 1" level with fleet sales. Retail sales are more profitable to GM so this is actually GOOD NEWS. Buick's goal right now is to increase retail sales. That will determine Buick's market viability. Buick is increasing retail sales. Plain and simple: More individual customers have bought a LaCrosse, LeSabre, Terraza, Rendezvous, & Rainier this year than customers who bought a Regal, Century, LeSabre, Park Avenue, Rendezvous, & Rainier last year. 2) Product cuts, what does it really mean: For 2005 Buick has disco'd 3 sedans, added 1 new sedan and 1 new minivan. Yet, retail sales are up from 2004 and Fleet sales are down???? That's actually pretty DAMN spectacular. For those who think the Terraza is selling poorly, it's selling better than the Saturn Relay and equal to the Montana SV6 that's sharing the showroom floor with the Terraza. The Relay doesn't even have a separate minivan to compete with in the Saturn showroom. 3) Who are buying the new Buicks? Besides the Sable joke, the fact is the LaCrosse attracted A LOT of non-GM buying customers in June and July. That's the type of penetration GM needs with Buick's new products. More retail sales to the non-traditional Buick buyer. More retail sales from customers NOT CROSS-SHOPPING OTHER GM PRODUCTS. Yes... actually A LOT of good news in this article.

It was only a matter of time until ocnblu managed to work in the word "penetration"

I thought Alfa too... looks great!

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Yeah... no point in a Z-Series if every Chevy has an SS trim.

Martha Stewart won't be the only outlet for Buick marketing... but it is a smart move in my opinion. The marketing won't appeal to you in particular, but it wasn't meant to either. :) Buick needs to be exposed to several different markets and become a viable brand in those markets. Martha Stewart is in this to make money and rebuild the empire. Buick will get the chance to be associated with several current and up-and-coming premium brands. All the while still getting coverage with the 30-50 year old female audience.

Let's see.... 3 tickets for $20. Number of tickets available: 2,000 So that should come out to: $13,340.00 for all 2,000 tickets Car is appraised for $19,000. Sounds like a steal!

Paulie... a 275hp full size Buick sedan with magnetic ride control has to be some-what exciting for you :)