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I personally don't find it disturbing. Regardless of who is in the majority, every American deserves to have their fundamental rights protected... even if they're not in the majority. No majority should have the ability to remove a minority's fundamental rights.

I guess he forgot that GM just hired Stephen J. Girsky back in August as a personal advisor to Rick Wagoner and the Senior management... :rolleyes:

The same speedometer is used for Miles & Kilometers (a button on the dash switches the measurements between the two). 140 is more appropriate for kilometers (140 km = 87 mph). Why they had 120 to begin with is beyond me.

Remember this article from just last month?

I was just correcting a misquote. The Northstar V8 in the Lucerne is more powerful than the Avalon's V6. Especially in torque. I agree that Avalon will be faster, but we won't know by how much until numbers come out for the Lucerne. Regardless, in the large car segment, anything in the 7.5-sec range or lower is considered effortless power.

That is exactly what I thought when I saw the pic. The Tahoe interior looks FANTASTIC in that pic. It's hard to believe Lutz is sitting in a Chevrolet SUV instead of a luxury sedan. The article was about as fair as fair can be. I also see that the media is slowly conceding to GM's efforts. It's about damn time. In the past 5 years, GM has set Cadillac on fire, literally created a division that has stolen most of JEEP's off-road prestige, and increased initial & long-term reliability across the board while at the same time suffered through completely restructuring its entire organization WORLD WIDE. Now, if the distractions of restructuring will disappear, GM might be able to build up the steam to press ahead "harder & faster" than ever before. Chevrolet will be completely reborn once the next generation Malibu arrives… along with Saturn. And who would have thought 5 years ago that Buick's 2006 line-up would be equal to or better than much of Cadillac's then-current 2000MY line-up??? : Compare: 2000 Cadillac Catera MSRP $31,010 200 hp V6 Or 2006 Buick LaCrosse CXS MSRP: $28,435 240 hp V6 And: 2000 Cadillac Seville SLS MSRP: $44,475 275 hp V8 Or 2006 Buick Lucerne CXS MSRP: $35,990 275 hp V8 GM is turning around…

Well, at least Cadillac's "pretentiousness" is returning. Were any of the past few Cadillac generations EVER used as a design study for after market manufacturers? Outside of that, this interpretation of a Cadillac Fleetwood 16 is hideous.

I agree. That's my opinion as well. Having been raised Christian, I was taught that Christians were the messengers of God, but the judgment of all people was reserved for Armageddon. Think about it. If Christians were responsible for judging everybody on this planet, then why would we need Armageddon anyways? No human can really know what is in another person's heart and soul. A brief 15 minute encounter may not even lend you that gay person's name... let alone a right to condemn him/her to Hell.

just to remind people... Toyota Avalon 3.5-liter DOHC 24-valve Dual VVT-i V6 268 hp @ 6200 rpm 248 lb.-ft. @ 4700 rpm Buick Lucerne 4.6L Northstar V8 275 hp @ 6,000 rpm 295 lb-ft @ 4,400 rpm

I'm sold... The price is right. For Christ's sake, the Lucerne CXS is priced the same as a Base Park Avenue... The Lucerne CXS is the equivalency to a 2004 Cadillac Seville!

I wouldn't dream of being ashamed to have a GM badge on my car.

From the "2007 SUVS AT A GLANCE" on page 1 posted by Derek77:

No Navigation to my knowledge. but as for improvements, the 2006 LaCrosse now has the following features standard on CX,CXL, & CXS trim levels: 4yr/50k mile bumper to bumper warranty with Road Side AssistanceOnStar equipped with 1 Year subscription Side Head curtain Airbags for front and back seatsAntilock Brakes Traction controlNot sure of anything else that's become standard or available for the 2006MY.

Some guys consider that a treat... I'm not one of them. :puke: As for touching something Gross? Creating a schedule for walks with the new puppy. If you pick her up and her bottom is wet, It's time to adjust the schedule... after you start backtracking the puppy's steps. :rolleyes: I'm at the point where I never want to know what changing a diaper is like. :(

In their time and era... they were grand. Hey, Excalibur couldn't have all the fun. :)

Uh... did you read the post????????

Maybe/Maybe not empowah... this vehicle could be planned as a Delta-based Astra replacement as well.

Saturn Ion replacement?

Just google Tubgirl... if you dare. You'll see references to tubgirl & goatse. Check urban dictionary.com if you can't find websites that actually show them. At least you'll know what they are.

I'd agree with everyone of them except the Dodge Dynasty. I still see quite a few in good condition. I'm always surprised when I see a good condition Dynasty, Fifth Avenue, & New Yorker from that particular generation. Amazingly, I see more poor condition Imperials than the others combined. The Grille is always terribly damaged and the headlight covers don't ever appear to be operable.

Moltar, I completely agree, and that's exactly what GM is trying to do with Buick... lower Buick's age demographic to the Baby Boomer generation... not to Gen X or Y. But, even then, which Baby Boomers that you're going to target? a ) The 20 year Camry & Accord buyer (typical Asian import buyer) or b ) The 20 year BMW & Mercedes buyer? (typical German import buyer) Buick is going for the 20 year Camry & Accord shoppers that are content with what Toyota & Honda have traditionally offered but now want something more... Acura's new direction doesn't really take the 20 year Accord buyer into account. Neither does L-Finesse for the 20 year Camry buyer (only the current ES really does this... which will soon be replaced). Both Acura & Lexus are targeting younger buyers (Gen X in particular) not Baby Boomers. This is an excellent opportunity for Buick to offer exactly what Baby Boomers have been use to for years while adding more style and other Buick qualities into the mix. The LaCrosse & Lucerne really do live up to that expectation.

Funny statistic that I heard on the news a few days ago... about 1 in 5 cars are bought by those 60 yrs or older (17%). They went on to say that the percentage will only increase as the Boomer demographic moves further into retirement years. They reiterated that Gen X and the Millennials are smaller generations/demographics than the Boomers. Another Statistic that I found indicated that almost half of the US population is 45 yrs old or older (49%). So, I really don’t think Buick will wither away if they can continue to attract the 45-75 year olds. Buick needs to continue to update their image and vehicles to attract what the mature premium buyer wants but in no way needs to worry about 17 year olds liking their cars.

What... no Pontiacs on the list? :P (j/k)

That is sooo cool. I hand a bunch of Tonka Toys as a kid... this brings back memories. :)

Honda Element. It's the biggest Youth flop there is IMO. I've seen a variety of age groups driving the others but NEVER have I seen someone under 30 driving the Element... the "Dorm Room on Wheels" has failed.