Mr.Krinkle

If this was N Korea or Iran the rest of the country's sentiment would be different. Even Afghanistan was lost in the mix. And the spring forecast there is for more blood and dead taliban. but I digress. This is bull$h!. If they were going to cowtow to anyone it should have been laid off GM employees. Not a despondant robot..

nah, i understand that. Im referring to the pictures GM uses. -just about any artist can make the g8 look like a vw beetle. They are not authentic in and do not represent what the actual car looks like. They are dull and processed. GM can go scratch their colelctive ass with their $h!ty photography. I like the link you posted except it sounds like it was filmed from a tractor but even so it looks plenty capable. And it is probably a blast to drive. throw in a great powertrain and it sounds like a deal.

You are comparing photo shops. Run through god knows what programs and filters. Wait for the real thing. or look at the posts griffon left. Even judging by the crap press photo the stance is not the same. Look closer. This is not an Honda you are looking at. Like I said, I will wait. But so far everything else is telling me it looks o.k.

Wat happened to the war?

I was just going to say I rather stick my head in the oven when I hear the mellancamp commercial. To each his own.

Im sorry but this will never be mistaken for this Maybe in a photoshop but I will still wait until I see it in person. Right now, everything is telling me I like it so far.

After that commercial came on my stereo inched towards the window. Thank god its winter.

You just dont get it. Do you? Maybe you should look at a saturn?

Toyota Class Action I doubt it, but hey ya never know. The billions is possible.

Hi! Im toyota... this is what I want you to want to see Im sorry I found this. oops! Is that normal? Is that supposed tp happen>?

I think this was my favorite shot from the webcam. of all the spots that need a cleaning.

CNN: Cars to Wait For Small list of 10 cars CNN recommends waiting for. 1.) Mid-Size Sedan: Chevrolet Malibu 2.) Large Luxury Crossover: Buick Enclave 3.) Full-Sized Truck: Toyota Tundra 4.) Small Luxury SUV: Land Rover LR2 5.) Entry Luxury Sedan: Cadillac CTS 6.) Large Luxury Sedan: Lexus LS600hL 7.) Compact Car: Mitsubishi Lancer 8.) Luxury Convertible: BMW 3-Series Convertible 9.) Entry Luxury Sedan: Mercedes-Benz C-Class 10.) Hybrid Sedan: Nissan Altima Hybrid

What kind of sick f ck takes pleasure in seeing a robot commit suicide? I found that a little alarming. I am deeply saddened that GM would pick a commercial like this. I plan on writing a letter to the ACLU or whomever handles a situation such as this as soon as I stop laughing. I like this teaser, too. http://youtube.com/watch?v=3wU0x3_t0Do ps I wonder how many drivers toyota killed or seriously injured while taping their tundra commercial.

so toyota will become number one because of fleet sales? typical.

Q: How do you pronounce Daimler Chrysler in German? A: The Chrysler is silent. I would expect in the next five years Cadillac as a brand will be hip. Buick is another story-for the majority of people out there...Plenty more people will be rolling in their caddys unashamedly. I thought the badges a bit much. I know a long time ago GM stood for something--and it was a good thing. Unless you liked Ford, but even that was a little before my time. Nonetheless they were a true piece of American culture. TV shows, sponsorships, they were innovators and trend setters and bla bla blah... Obviously the GM name has lost much of the presence once associated with it and its glory faded somewhat and in its place negative association sprouted. I do not see the harm in trying to recapture that glory. At least get it to the point where the name is respectable and doesnt induce eye rolling... Thats one reason those badges were so pointless to me... Showing the solstice with big GM letters in the background isnt overstepping a boundary. If GM was never so engrained in the public conscious i could understand just letting it go but it was and so I think it needs to be refurbished to some degree...then drop it and stop confusing everyone if they want.. Just go out on a good note.

GM can be hip but only after its divisions and cars/truck/x/overs are first. Think to when buick and mercury had the sack to say they want to market to urban, minority and women buyers. Thats a little too ballsy. Cadillac became hip on its own. TOo many peopel associate GM with crap. Just the way it is. When GM gets a hot car on its hands its only natural to want to be associated with it and they should to try and help their overall image. Everyone knows lexus/toyota/scion are the same. Most people I think are aware BMW is behind MINI...and that association is a good thing. The only people who really care about GM and its brand differentiation right now are GM fans. i.e. a pontiac or GMC driver who wouldnt be caught in most CHevrolets...or the whatever. Everyone else, ehh...its a GM. why do they even have so many brands anyway, they might say? These people didnt learn to say chevy or buick sucks, ...it started with GM sucks. Why not change that first. perfect example the cts and malibu. Did you see the new cadillac? GM is finally getting it right. maybe there will be hope for pontiac if GM gets the Holdens over here... Trickle down theory. or is it up?>

The car pictured on the clip from ABC news is not orange.

Actually, what i wanted to know is the percent of people who bought a new car that visited an autoshow. and obviously what cars.

Basically from what ive seen anything under the umbrella of GM is considered as crap--they bare the brunt of it. Of course the exceptions, usually with qualifiers are the z06, cts', tahoe and 900's to an extent...but what i find somewhat promising is the list is slowly expanding...Granted, how many divisions-but what was on that list 5 years ago? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/business...nyt&emc=rss I think GM knows it has a good thing with saturn--too bad the astra wont be priced as cheaply as they had hoped, but other than that Saturn does have a lot going for it at the moment and like it or not rightly or wrong it has no where near the baggage associated with it as do the other division.

This boils down to hearsay. Maybe the Honda exec was bs'ing and is now getting a good laugh back at the office. WHo knows? I agree with this scenario and will add there is such a thing as friendly competetion. Not too long ago Lutz said he "likes the Tundra" The superbowl is coming up, lets see how many times the bears praise peyton manning. Or say how tough the other teams running game is or how good of a defense theyll be up against. No one is getting a poly.

Does this mean anything to most truck buyers out there? GM: Brawn. More than sufficient, in the GM tradition. The popular crew-cab models can tow 10,500 pounds, GM says, more than any current rival. And the crew cab has the highest payload rating of any version, up to 2,039 pounds. To match or beat that among standard-duty models, you'd have to choose rivals' regular-cab models, which have no back seats. TUNDRA: The big-selling crew- and extended-cab models carry 1,465 to 1,755 pounds. Respectable, but several hundred pounds less than you'd get in similar General Motors trucks Re: the dyno and the "4 second loop" --is that still present with the tow/haul button engaged? How was this test conducted?

Using the above scenario and if a Tundra did veer into a Cobalt due to a failed suspension or ball joint, and somehow, miraculously the passengers in the cobalt only came away with a head injury--who would be more at fault? Or would it be 50/50. hmmm. Yes, those spokespeople are a clever bunch.

There are people who will specifically request a cadillac when they need to get to an airport or to a show. http://www.askaprice.com/torque-article.as..._&item=1973you might want to avert your eyes. I dont see the big deal.

Polk Automotive Loyalty Award Winners Announced: GM and Toyota Take Top Honors for 2006 Model Year http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/01/16/034229.html SOUTHFIELD, MI - January 16, 2007: R. L. Polk & Co. presented the 11th Annual Polk Automotive Loyalty Awards last night at the 2007 Automotive News World Congress. Winning the Overall Manufacturer award for the seventh consecutive year, General Motors demonstrated an outstanding ability to retain its customers for the 2006 model year, which ended Sept. 30. GM also secured five additional awards including honors for its Chevrolet Impala, Corvette and Tahoe, and the Saturn ION and VUE. "GM customer loyalty increased at least 3 percentage points in each winning category," said Stephen R. Polk, chairman, president and CEO of R. L. Polk & Co. "We congratulate GM and wish the company continued success in its customer loyalty efforts as it launches several new products this year." Toyota was also a big winner this year, scoring more than 3 percentage points higher than last year in customer loyalty and taking honors in the Overall Make category for posting the highest make loyalty to an automotive division. It was also recognized with two segment loyalty awards. Toyota Prius won the Midsize Car segment becoming the first hybrid vehicle to be honored. Lexus, the luxury division of Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc., was a repeat winner in the Midsize SUV segment for its Lexus RX. " While hybrids continue to make up just a small percentage of the overall market, hybrid owners have been known to be very enthusiastic about their vehicles," said Polk. "We expect this trend to continue as an increased number of manufacturers are working on adding more fuel-efficient vehicles to their offerings." Overall for the industry, make loyalty for the 2006 model year was 44.4 percent. Recent studies by Polk show consumers are consistently more loyal to Asian brands (47.6 percent), versus European (37.3 percent) and domestic makes (43.5 percent). Ford Motor Company was also a multi-award winner this year and accepted honors for its Ford F-Series, Mustang and Lincoln Town Car. Other brands capturing loyalty honors were Chrysler, Land Rover and Mercedes-Benz. Polk Manufacturer Loyalty Excelerator™ Report Polk's Manufacturer Loyalty Excelerator™ Report, which is the basis for the Polk Automotive Loyalty rankings and annual awards, is the latest insight into consumer loyalty. This report was introduced to the automotive industry in 1995 and was created to provide household loyalty information to manufacturers at many different levels. It is now used to provide loyalty percentages for the entire automotive industry and allows for cross-industry comparisons of loyalty behavior. The report measures loyalty throughout the entire model year so that manufacturers may keep abreast of loyalty trends as they occur in the industry. The Polk Automotive Loyalty Awards recognize manufacturers for superior owner loyalty performance. Loyalty is determined when a household that owns a new vehicle returns to market and purchases or leases another new vehicle of the same model or make. Polk Automotive Loyalty Award winners - 2006 Model year Avg. Category Winner Loyalty Loyalty % % for Category Overall Awards: Manufacturer Loyalty General Motors* 61.4 53.2 Make Loyalty Toyota* 57.7 44.4 Vehicle Segment Awards: Small Car Saturn ION* 27.8 14.6 Midsize Car Toyota Prius 35.0 17.0 Large Car Chevrolet Impala 32.4 20.9 Luxury Car Lincoln Town Car* 34.9 18.1 Prestige Luxury Car Mercedes-Benz S-Class 31.4 24.5 Sports Car Ford Mustang* 19.9 11.7 Prestige Sports Car Chevrolet Corvette 27.0 19.8 Minivan Chrysler Town & Country* 27.4 15.2 Compact Pickup Truck Toyota Tacoma* 18.7 12.2 Full-Size Pickup Truck Ford F-Series* 36.8 32.0 Compact SUV Saturn VUE 29.6 16.7 Midsize SUV Lexus RX 300/330/400h* 31.1 17.2 Full-Size SUV Chevrolet Tahoe 22.3 16.6 Prestige SUV Land Rover Range Rover* 35.5 19.5 * 2005 Model Year Polk Automotive Loyalty Award Winner