Mr.Krinkle

about this i could not agree with you more. instead of being force fed idealogies that involve gm constantly failing us and focusing and all the negative aspects the truth leans closer to the point you make. these ideas are so general. there is no thought behind it. no details are provided. yes, build a better car, price it affordably, make it look good too. hey isnt that what they did with these 3 cars....yeah, i know more more more. im gonna make a better chocolate bar. its going to be sweeter than hersheys and tastier than lindt. it will have less calories too. then i will build a tv. with a clearer picture and better sound. whos interested? thats all i got. so what ive learned today. build a car thats cheap and competitive with power looks quality materials low price great mileage etc etc. and well have a winner! its as if no ones ever come up with ideas like this before i read it here. the point again is people for the most part love these little cars and makes a lot of heads turn and faces smile. for good reasons.

its all opinion...based on fact. are your response spoken from the moutnaintop? no its opinion based on fact and in your case a need to defend lexus. how come gm doesnt do well in minivans? because they suck...yourre more than forthcoming about gms ability or in this case inability to compete but youll come up with every excuse in the book while defending toyota and lexus. do i give a $h!. no. do you need to proclaim how bright you are. yep. does anyone else give a sh*t. i doubt it. the link i supplied is opinion. is it packed with facts...you betcha. yourre argument here is unfounded and weak. its not about how will toyota succeed in europe. it is about how come they are failing right now. will they do better at some point. probably. thats not what this is about though.'

yourre funny. projecting? did you take an intro to psyc class? the kappas are great and would be great even if you didnt agree. do you know what megalomaniac means? come up with something original or pertinent and i might respond to you again. your 3 star vocabulary doesnt impress me either.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...428/1148/AUTO01 isnt saab part of gm anyway?

quoted for posterity. how many times did you change your tune while you were scolding "josh" you maggot. three or 4?

theres no sum of money in the world to make up for that stress. look at pictures of presidents when they first take office then look again 4 or 8 years later. the amount of aging that takes place so clear. a lot of responsibility and sleepless nights abound.

thats a suprise. get a pair. who do you ask when yourre trying to figure out if you want the soup or salad. unbelievable...slurp slurp.

ha. thats funny. do you think they have anything too shrink evoks inflated head. ha hah.

ha hah youve got to be kidding me. evok has spoken, let us all go in peace. my mistake fellas, anytime you two girls feel like getting together to chat just let me and the other "peons" know so we can let you gab unfettered. you scumbag. by the way pal i do have me a college edumucation and would never want to banter with someone like you. get a life. ive got better information from ups deliveryman than someone like you and your supposed knowledge. i didnt think they still made people like you. what garbage. and if you cant see why lexus sales in europe are nonexistent without someone telling you the reasons why they are non existent then there is no hope for you. get lost and stop wasting my time with this trash.

i heard wagoner in another interview say that basically the profit from china was going to be used to support parts of the turnaround here. cant get blood from a stone...so why the hell not. this meeting with pres bush the other day must have something to do with this whole mess. how often fo people meet with the president of the united states when it doesnt concern bizness... i d wager therell be some new news about this within the next year or so...maybe sooner. it may have only simply been about new gas mileage quotas...who the hell knows.

depending on your application thats a premium that more than makes up for itself when you blow the doors off some poor unsuspecting sucka.

thats an excellent point.

its not possible to feel superior to you so i wont waste my time. i will say you defend toyota like its your mother-thats a metaphor. no one is talking about caddy...this is toyota and how their sales in euroupe suck. deal with it. every time someone says something bad about mother toyota i hear wah wah wah from you...wait hold on. have some pride and take it like a man, if you can. if someone else isnt competitive you invariably say they need a better car. lexus needs better cars to compete in a market they have no business being in. spin it all you want the fact is, and its a fact jack...their european sales figures suck your argument is so transparent it would be a waste of a gorgeous day to trifle with you any longer. adios.

its actually a good story. some predict in 5 years theyll still only sell a quarter of what bwm 3 series or 1/4 of what audi a4's sell. so why dont they build a diesel. maybe the lexus hybrids are more interesting over there.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...428/1148/AUTO01 like a wounded duck...16.000 cars last year, check my math by reading the link. then lets see. do you always think you are right. makes it kindve boring. ill dumb it down a shade but double check that math again for me. 85% is a big increase when you dont sell that many to begin with understand now wise guy.

dont feel too badly for nissan...they dont mind selling all those maximas and altimas.

yeah, or someones mixing up pina coladas in there. or a two thousand pound bumble bee just flew by you on the highway.

sometimes it just feels like he hs soiled the presidency...i can only hope the next to be elected restores some of the dignity that has disappeared these past few years. eurocopter. let me guess, it tackles those corners better. what good could possibly come from this meeting anyway. he seems to not mind gas prices as high as they are because his solution is to have cars get a few extra miles to the tank. thanks for looking out for us. wheres that rally monkey?

now i know you know that if they sold even 1 lexus and the next year they sold 2 sales then would have increased by a whole 100%. besides, if you can afford a lexus...i dont think gas is too much of a concern. bmw and benz' do pretty good forthemselves with their gas guzzling v8s

gotta get nos. yeah. nos. you cant kill them all. too bad i guess. some of them sure are purrdy though. no not really.

the fit is go is speed racer ish sounding to me...or nasa engineers-all systems are go. its a play on words that capitalizes on the trend of anime and japanese culture that seems to have permeated the younger set these past few years...pretty clever actually but i dont care for it too much. safe happens = $h! happens...not a fan my fast = havent a clue but again clever commercials. not as good as slippery pete/ulee's(?). id bet hondas kicking themselves for missing that one. far and away "gorgeous loves fast" couldnt be more appropriate or suitable for a jaguar. i likes that one

it really amazes me how some of you can see 3/8 of picture of something and know all about it. theres no way anyone can make a definitive statement about this truck or interior from this here one shot. generalizations are ok...it looks better than the other trucks so far, but really anything more than that is reaching. in my own humble opinion of course.

thats what you like to hear. calm, cool, and collected. thanks for reassuring us that everything will be just fine, mr. spokesperson. is this just a language barrier thing?

i dont think anyone looking for an H3 would even consider this pile. no one is racing these things and they both make 2 very different statements. i dont care for the H3 or this thing but for very different reasons. performance from these things...c'mon thats not where the argument centers. "Enzl.....WRONGO....! It is a bit quicker than "on par" with the H3 and it's 5-cylinder engine. Let's compare C&D acceleration numbers again, shall we?"

i really just feel bad for the editor who has to slop this sh*t together. something about their writing where i just want to give both of them a little bitch slap. theie word means nothing basically when the arbitrariness of their reporting is as flaky as it is ...i know i couldve said a bowl of cereal. the point is they hated a lot of things about this utilitarian hauler, including the looks and powertrain yet managed to achieve 4 stars...each. hell, with that criteria it starts, goes and stops...only holds 4 people so that gets a 4. every other car should get at least that. ive read really lame reviews before and most were from these two hacks. i think the detnews just keeps them around because they get a lot of hate mail for them. i dont think that they are necessarily biased per se...just stupid.