Intrepidation

I do!

lol that was low. But i still like the Eclipse...the Solstice is sexier though, I'll give you that.

It's tough to tell from that spyshot, but from what I can see, the upscale/RedLine version will look closer to the Aura concept. You can see modlings on the rocker panels in the spyshot, not quite as big as the concept, but still there. Anyway "fixing" the production version to look like the concept, at least from the what we can see so far, is as easy as swapping the bumper, adding larger rocker panels, and larger wheels. So it's safe to assume that, if there is a RedLine, it will look like the concept. From what I can tell so far the Aura looks promising, I'm eager to see more photos of it as well as the new Altima and the Sebring/Avenger. My only question, is if the RedLine doesn't look like the concept, then why did the Aura get dumbed down? GM should learn from Chrysler about not dumbing down concepts. Again, this is hypothetical, and is only relevant if th RedLine doesn't look more like teh concept. BTW does anyone know if the Sebring and/or Avenger are debuting in New York?

Well then you should pay more attention to thelines of the car, I can see them no problem...although yes it has a big butt, lol. BUt it looks alright, better than the Altima for instance (king of big car butts). I liked the G6 concept, the production model looks like what would happen if you asked Toyota to build a Pontiac...it looks too Japanese, and the coupe is a mess.

You guys are flaming edmunds for the review, saying they are unfair and idiots and so on. Which, while I think their family sedan test was badly done, I think they are still good. They criticize the Lucerne on things that are deserving of it and compliment it on things that deserve such. Case in point: the handling. They say that the CXL handles lamely, like Buicks of yore, but they also say that the CXS with Magetic Ride Control handles a lot better. They complain about the loose headliner and the power steering failure...things that should not be an issue in a brand new car, especially a 35k one. They complimented the dash design, and didn't b1tch about the tach so much as simply point it out. Not having a tilt/teloscoping steering wheel or a Nav system in this segment is rediculous as well. The Ford Friggin' Focus has a tilt/telescoping steering wheel and you can get Nav systems on Civics. No excuses for a lack of those features. Besides, edmunds didn't exactly praise the new Yaris, so they don't just "bash domestics" as many of you seem to believe.

I have a friend who is like this, having contempt for American cars. He swares imports are far superior to Americans, we get into arguements all the time cuz he thhinks Dodges in particular are junk. He has an Accord and an old PoS sh1t-colored Volvo. The Volvo's power windows don't work, some of the interior lights don't work, the sunroof doesn't work, and that Acoord had a blown transmission (his is a 2002). My "unreliable" Dodge has it's original engine and tranny, and aside from having to replace the wiring harness that connects to the HVAC controls cuz it overheated from corrosion, it hasn't had much in the way of problems in years. Did I mention it is 17 years old with 207k miles on it? Who's got the unreliable PoS now b1tch?!

Maybe, but even so, considering the 4-door will basically be an extended version of the new Wrangler with a couple extra doors, the look can't be far off.

Or: "Our workforce is expendable and so is our cars!" Bet you could get a better car out of the junkyard

Those tailights looks pretty damn cool, as with the headlights, they have a complex and interesting design that is for more interesting and cool than most designs on cars. It's clear because many people who bought Eclipses in the past would swap out the stock tailights for clear "altezza" aftermarket ones. So Mitubishi just gave `em what they want. Wow reg, this has gotta be the first time I've seen you defend a car lol. I think the styling is great, it took the daring but kinda ugly concept and made it into a sexy production car. What I love about the Eclipse is that no matter where you look, something interesting, detailed, and expensive looking is going on.

Uh dude, before you call people morons, you should get your grammar right...because then it makes you look like a moron. However I do agree with you, either toyoguy is doing this to be a smartass or he really is an idiot.

Well I admit you have me their about not driving a Yaris, but I doubt I ever will, that gauge placement alone is enough to make me not want it. As for the Focus, it had recalls only in it's early life, and even then, a friend of mine has a 2001 and hasn't had any issues with it. Also, the fact the the Focus is older yet handles better and has more power proves how sad the Yaris is.

Well said.

Looks good. Like a manly version of a Liberty

That's the Avenger Concept from like 2003.

I don't care, that's still rediculous for a subcompact. You can get a nicely equiped Civic, Caliber, or Cobalt for that or less. You could get a top-of-the-line Focus too. More power and features, plus better handling and more fun to drive even if it's aging. And don't even factor in the Aveo or Accent or Rio, which top out a 3-4k less than the Yaris. You could get a base Malibu, Sonata, Fusion or Stratus too. The Fit is a better car with better drivetrain, more fun to drive and has the gauges in the right damn place, not to mention it tops out at 15k. (Prices looked up at Edmunds).

If nothing else, DCX can at least take heart in the fact that the factory that builds them is flexible and can shift production as demand (or lack thereof) shifts for it or the other platform-mates. Thankfully, Jeep seems to anticipated the Compass flopping and has the Patriot as backup.

Hmm, well this has become quite a thread. hah. Well, I could sit back and stop looking at it, but I guess throwing a little more imput in can't hurt. So here goes, I have 2 main points: 1.) As we've dicussed and more or less agreed on, the people bitching about the Caliber commercial need to lighten up and shut up, and that it didn't have anything to do with gay people, just cute things. So they must learn that the world doesn't revolve around them and not everything is in reference to them. I thought it was pretty clever/funny. 2.) The gay marrige stuff. I'm not gay, but at the same time I don't care if someone is or not. If they are, fine. For marrige itself...well I can see churches and stuff not wanting to grant married for whatever beliefs it may be going against (although considering they had the hold priest + child issue, gay marrige should be the least of their concerns). However I think the government should recognize and allow gay marrige in any state. Some people might not like, but most, like me, don't care. It's supposed to be a free country. Denying it is no than when women were denied the right to vote. It's discrimination and goes against our country's founding principles of freedom.

Lol you can rip that thing, it's not a nice looking car inside or out. Although the next one could be promising... I reserve final judgement until I can see it all, but so far it looks pretty good. my only compaint thus far is that I wish the character line ran parallel ro the windows instead of curving down. But it may look fine once we see the whole car. But at any rate, you're free to bash the current one

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ANd it can't even do that right. Note the 17k sticker.

It just goes to show you that Edmunds isn't an import humper after all Toyota doesn't seem to know how to build a good small car anymore (aside from the tC)...I wonder if the next Corolla will end up sucking too.

I saw 2 Commanders right next to each other at a stoplight in Boston yesterday. they look alright.

Wasn't this originally about a Caliber ad? lol

Cute Not so cute.

They're not praising all the cars. They burned the Yaris they just tested pretty good. I'm looking forward to a shootout between the Mazdaspeed3 and the Caliber SRT-4