Intrepidation

Well here it is, the beautiful B-17G that came Lawrence Airport this past weekend. I was lucky enough to get up close and take a tour of it as well as get a couple short videos of the engines running. Here's a bunch of photos I took..you'll like this Sixty8 :AH-HA_wink:

The sedan is alright, better than the Camry and at least they put some thought into the rear and didn't knock off an old Mitsubishi *cough* Malibu *cough* I hate the bulging headlights of the sedan though. It's got a lot of 5-series in the greenhouse but at the same time it's not as ugly as the 5-series front or back. Poor man's BMW for sure. The coupe however looks great (and look! no light bulging!). Sleeker and more aggressive than the old one, which looked fat and slab sided. The interior however, really sets this car apart and absolutely destroys the Malibu's interior. The colors, the details (and no doubt, the materials) really put that interior in a class above the rest. I love the way it looks. For those complaining about the base interior...well I guess you haven't seen a base interior of the Malibu.

Nice job Sxity8, maybe they'll actually look it up and not buy the TRD.

Where, oh where to start... Drivers that drift into other lanes Drivers that change lanes suddenly without signalling and not looking to see that I am right beside them, forcing me to slam on my brakes Drivers who tailgate Driver's who weave in and out of traffic lanes Driver's who pass when it is a no passing zone Driver's who brake suddenly at the last minute to turn Driver's who throw their blinkers on last minute Driver's who do not use their turn signals at all Drover's who take forever to take a turn Driver's who stop at every damn intersection even if they have the right of way Driver's who go 20mph under the speed limit Driver's who cannot keep a constant speed Driver's who run read lights or stop signs Driver's on cell phones Driver's who do not look before backing up or pulling out Driver's who peel around corners, almost hitting you Driver's who rear end you because they are too f#@$ing stupid to realize the car in front of them is stopped and that you are supposed to yield to rotary traffic.

Why must the quote throw in religious overtones when it is not needed? Anyway, the low speed maneuverability is very very impressive...it's is truly a marvel of technology and far ahead of any fighter in service. One thing the Japan will never to be able to brag about is that they build better planes. :AH-HA_wink:

The voice of experience?

I wonder why a tail light is missing?

I actually like the way that one looks.

Perhaps one of the reasons so little has been said about the future of the PT is because Chrysler is trying to figure out it's own future...stay where it is or move upmarket. If they move upmarket (which I think they should) than the PT is out of place because it's not an upscale vehicle...remember it was originally designed to be a Plymouth. On the one hand it would be unwise to discontinue a sales success or let it waste away with no redesign, but how well would it fit into a more upscale Chrysler if Chrysler follows that route...and would it be a sales success if it became more upscale (more expensive). The sad part is that it's a big sales success...if it had been a Plymouth like it was supposed to, we might still have Plymouth.

To clarify, it's not a car (hence why it's not in the automotive trivia)

What is... Rarer that a Bugatti Veyron Makes more horsepower Is faster Has 4 superchargers Have fun!

Gray Maserati Coupe Black Dodge Viper R/T 10 a blue `89 Cavalier with blue painted hubcaps, wood grill, and 3 Impala badges on said "grill"

Nope.

Well...earlier this year the Prizm would do something funky like this. Sometimes the gas pedal would get "suck:" or something. When I had the pedal down to accelerate hard (like for passing) and would let go the car would still be accelerating. I'd have to take it a couple time to get it to stop. The car didn't have floormats at the time, and unlike the Cobalt, it's carpet is secure. This happened several times...I could never figure out if it was getting caught on something or what, but eventually the problem went away. Also, the floormat thing is kind of weak...in my experience, when a floormat "bunches up" by the pedal, it prevents pedal travel, thus hindering acceleration...

I know where PCS is heading!

The gray interior still looks like meh but give it color and it looks very nice and distinctive...there are too many cutlines around the center stack area, and the door panel design could be better, but the details look like they are there and that's what every GM car before it has lacked. The back doesn't look so bad anymore...NOS' chop is still better but I've seen worse (the entire current Malibu). The first picture really makes the Malibu look lik it needs bigger wheels, but in the other photos it looks fine. The unique interior colors combined with class-exclusive 4 banger/6 speed should help set this car apart. I look forward to seeing one in person!

I'm gonna take a while guess and say it'll look something like this:

I LAWLed at these. If it does climb again I'll ask for a raise to offset the price of delivering...did I mention I hate assholes who don't tip?

Well when you use those photos yeah...especially since you chose a monotone picture of the current one. The old one does look more swoopy and I do like in some ways better (all the photos I saw of the old until now were poor quality and I've never sat in a pre MCE PT). I think the new one's is cleaner (less cluttered looking). My real complaint with the interior are the seats...very narrow and uncomfortable...I don't know if all of the seats are like that, butthe ones I sampled were.

I think they did fine withe teh front end...but everything from the A-pillar back is garbage. It looks like a hunchback....and it's interior makes a Jeep's look luxurious in comparison.

None of that sounds particularly new or exciting besides the Opel concept...

Interior borrows a lot from the G35, but that's ok...it looks fabulous..especially with those rich colors. The exterior I don't like much...I hate that character line as it reminds me of the Elantra...but maybe it will look better with some better photos. This interior + FX exterior = awesome vehicle.

By your logic the CTS, STS and every other Cadillac look the same and not different enough because the front ends all use the same styling cues...vertical lights, same shape grill, etc.

It's pretty easy to tell the differences between an M and a G, as he said, any self respecting car enthusiast can tell the difference. As for the roofline, you must be blind or trying desperately to knock the car. The rooflines aren't even the same...if you need proof for yourself because your eyes aren't good enough to do the job open up PhotoShop, put the cars in layers, turn down the opacity of the top layer and there ya go. Anyway, I like the changes to the rear...they make it look a lot better...which is good because IMO the rear was the only real weak point of the car's design.