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Exactly, history is about facts, what actually happened. Not twisting it to your own agendas and beliefs to force on millions of students who are supposed to be learning about it objectively. Our education system is already terrible, this is more proof of that.

I can think of plenty of cars that, whether you like the styling or not aren't anonymous (and aren't supercars).

This right here. The thing is, and it may come as a shock, but the automakers aren't exactly rolling in money, so they've done just this to help save costs and make whatever money they can. Chrysler did this last year where they cut down a lot of the individual option packages and either dropped options (AWD) or simplified them into groups. Maybe when they're doing better they'll have more standalone options, but not so much right now.

You can probably thank the legal team for that.

The problem for you YJ (and the other few of you) is that not enough people want things like stereo delete on their cars, and it adds cost to the production process to make different options. By simplifying the options, it costs less to produce. If there was a great demand for stereos to be optional, then it would be an option. However, stereo deletes are only found on the very cheapest of cars, or the low volume, lightweight versions of performance cars (which ironically cost more, but that's because of all the performance enhancements). I really doubt you'll ever find things like crank windows and stereo deletes options on a $32,000 Camaro SS or Mustang GT. Of course, if you really wanted to lose some weight (although void the warranty) you could remove that stuff yourself. I suppose. The point of this thread originally was that Camino doesn't like the style of new cars, which in the end is his own thing, since as we know, it's subjective. That's all a matter of taste. I personally can't look at my friend's Camaro RS and or a 370Z say "yeah that's boring", but that's me.

. Clearly, the old days were nothing but rolling works of art. Also beside the four or five of you, most people want things like radios, air conditioning, brakes, power windows, etc.

The Atom is an amazing car.

Maybe they're just under evolved in TexASS.

AUSTIN, Texas – The Texas State Board of Education adopted a social studies and history curriculum Friday that amends or waters down the teaching of religious freedoms, America's relationship with the U.N. and hundreds of other items. The new standards were adopted after a final showdown by two 9-5 votes along party lines, after Democrats' and moderate Republicans' efforts to delay a final vote failed. In one of the most significant curriculum changes, the board dilutes the rationale for the separation of church and state in a high school government class, noting that the words were not in the Constitution and requiring students to compare and contrast the judicial language with the First Amendment's wording. The ideological debate over the guidelines, which drew intense scrutiny beyond Texas, will be used to determine what important political events and figures some 4.8 million students will learn about for the next decade. The standards, which one Democrat called a "travesty," also will be used by textbook publishers who often develop materials for other states based on guidelines approved in Texas, although teachers in the Lone Star state have latitude in deciding how to teach the material. The board attempted to make more than 200 amendments this week alone, reshaping draft standards that had been prepared over the last year and a half by expert groups of teachers and professors. As new amendments were being presented just moments before the vote, Democrats bristled that the changes had not been vetted. "I think we're doing an injustice to the children of this state by piecemealing together, cutting and pasting, coming up with new amendments as late as today," said Mary Helen Berlanga, a Democrat. "What we have done today and what we did yesterday is something that a classroom teacher would not even have accepted." During the monthslong revision process, conservatives strengthened requirements on teaching the Judeo-Christian influences of the nation's Founding Fathers and required that the U.S. government be referred to as a "constitutional republic," rather than "democratic." Students will be required to study the decline in the value of the U.S. dollar, including the abandonment of the gold standard. They also rejected language to modernize the classification of historic periods to B.C.E. and C.E. from the traditional B.C. and A.D., and agreed to replace Thomas Jefferson as an example of an influential political philosopher in a world history class. They also required students to evaluate efforts by global organizations such as the United Nations to undermine U.S. sovereignty. Former board chairman Don McLeroy, one of the board's most outspoken conservatives, said the Texas history curriculum has been unfairly skewed to the left after years of Democrats controlling the board and he just wants to bring it back into balance. "I'm proud to have my name on this document," Republican board member Barbara Cargill said shortly before the vote. Another Republican board member, David Bradley, said the curriculum revision process has always been political — but this time, the ruling faction had changed since the last time social studies standards were adopted. "We took our licks, we got outvoted," he said referring to the debate from 10 years earlier. "Now it's 10-5 in the other direction ... we're an elected body, this is a political process. Outside that, go find yourself a benevolent dictator." GOP board member Geraldine Miller was absent during the votes. Educators have blasted the curriculum proposals for politicizing education. Teachers also have said the document is too long and will force students to memorize lists of names rather than thinking critically. The curriculum dispute contributed to McLeroy's defeat in the March state Republican primary. Education Secretary Arne Duncan said school officials "should keep politics out" of curriculum debates. "We do a disservice to children when we shield them from the truth, just because some people think it is painful or doesn't fit with their particular views," Duncan said in a statement. "Parents should be very wary of politicians designing curriculum." After the vote, the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas urged the state Legislature to place more control over the board. "At the end of three long days, the State Board of Education has amended, re-amended and approved curriculum standards that are more ideological than ever, despite pleas to not politicize what is taught to Texas school children," said the state ACLU's executive director, Terri Burke. At least one lawmaker vowed legislative action to "rein in" the board. "They have ignored historians and teachers, allowing ideological activists to push the culture war further into our classrooms," said Rep. Mike Villareal, a San Antonio Democrat. "They fail to understand that we don't want liberal textbooks or conservative textbooks. We want excellent textbooks, written by historians instead of activists." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100522/ap_on_re_us/us_texas_schools_social_studies

Oh, and how could I get the Veritas RS III.

8C Competizione, Gran Turismo...

Now that's boring. And 406 thousand tons worth of it.

Owner of LHF just bought a Challenger R/T. Can't wait to see it.

I've always liked those Cougars.

Chargers, Mustangs, Challengers, 300C's, Genesis, Genesis Coupe, Camaro, CTS, CTS-V, CTS Sportwagon, CTS-V Sportwagon(!), CTS Coupe, Alpha Cadillac, Corvette, SVT Raptor, Viper, 370Z, GTR... Veyron, DB9, DBS, V8 Vantage, V12 Vantage, Rapide, XKR, Gallardo, Gallardo Balboni, Reventon, Murcielago LP670-4 SV, 458 Italia, 911 GT2 RS, Continental GT, Elise, Exige, Evora... And even on the cheaper side: Focus, Fiesta, Dodge compact, Grand Cherokee, 500, 600, CC, GTI, Miata, RX8, Mini... All of the top of my head. Maybe in your depressing world, but there's still tons for me to get excited about. Sorry it's not the same for you.

Looks clean, never did like the styling though.

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Last year a friend and I bought about $50 worth of fireworks in NH, where it's legal. We decided to launch them in Hamtpon at teh beach and enjoy teh fireworks display. We parked about a mile away from the site, which was in another town next to Hampton. They had shops their too but we figured we had enough. We walked to the site passing buy security and such no problems. Before/during the display we joined other people and launched a few off at the water, but decided to wait until it had cleared for us to launch the rest. After the rather sub par professional display we started launching them in clear area of the beach. A few minutes later some cops showed up on an ATV and told us it was illegal to launch them. We were like wtf? Why are there shops nearby? He said because it's in the next town where it's legal. I asked why there were NO signs about it being illegal in Hampton? He had no answer, but said we could either be fined $300 or hand them over to him. We asked if we could just take them back with us to where we're parked in the legal town. he said no. Worst 4th of July ever. Damn pigs probably launched the things off themselves letter. I want to launch fireworks again this year, but I guess this time we'll have to make sure it's legal in the town we go to in the State where it's supposedly legal.

Really ocn? I thought this would erect your interest.

Just like Iran claims!