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add to that the cars are all the same now to 'even the playing field' and it is boring anyway...Nascar is dead. I don't watch any more.

Could be people looking at Acadia/Outlook and being unable to swing the payments or find one on the lots are looking at the Trailblazers as an alternative. Envoy was up a bit as well. And Buick still moved a few hundred more Rainiers. Wonder if this was why?

Equinox, Torrent - both way up The refresh is working there I think ( as minor as it was ). HHR up again! - The BIG trucks still rolled out in great numbers...all in all a great month. Way to go GM!

I agree...can you imagine an Outlook or Acadia with this kind of drivetrain? Something that will be usable as a family car will take the market by storm if it is this successful.

I love the orange on the Corvette, but really feel as if I would be sick of it quickly. I also love the HHR in that color and think that it would be the only color I would buy it in. My wife tells me that the orange will be on her vette when she buys one, so I guess it is a matter of taste.

wish I could have watched it...had a flash back moment though ( I am a Nittany Lion! ) I was watching the ESPN Scoreboard on the computer and refreshed it when they showed 26 seconds on the board - after the refresh it said 30 seconds! I could only yell NOT AGAIN! I thought they had it at the end when they marched to the 20 yard line with 6 seconds left. GLAD to see APP STATE pull it out!

love the color - if the dealers don't screw with the pricing, it should sell well against a lot of cars.

Yeah, but Audi's usually are not all that well known for thier wonderful blue book at trade it time - nor the negative equity the guy may have had...but that is a high lease deal.

I am not blaming the PR people at all - those guys are great. What I want to know is why the press has NOT attacked them in regards to the issues or the BULL$h! SANDWICHES they serve at every press conference on ever issue and get away with it! Seriously, these guys make Joe Iszuzu look like a Saint. Why doesn't a rational person question them and go after the truth on this company? From bad product to poor labor practices, Toyota covers ALL the bases and gets away with it. And I just read the entire article - 36 trucks were improperly tied down to the transporters using hydraulics which caused the frame to be bent. Hydraulics are very powerful and I can understand the damage they could cause to a frame when placed under huge stress to tie the trucks down - the FJ is happening on the road...as people drive it. I think that was what it was SUPPOSED to be designed to do, right? It seems to me that GM found the problem, kept the problem from continuing, and kept the product OUT of the hands of customers...Toyota is dragging it's feet. It is just like politics. Bush and Gonzales fire the White House Attorneys - which by law they can do without recourse and without reason - and we have congressional hearings over the whole thing and Gonzales is run out of the office for it. Clinton fires a bunch of attorneys the same way and not a word in the press about impropriety or a congressional investigation or anything. I guess what I am saying is that some are better at playing the game than others...and it is not necessarily a good thing.

and floormats cause Lexus cars to accellerate uncontrollably or a Prius to stop suddenly...never the car's fault when it is a Toyota. GM MUST have fixed the frame issue because I have never heard or seen anything on it, even in the biased press. Toyota, according to the owners of the FJ in the posts that I have read is IGNORING thier plees for help with the issue or are thinking of looking into it and blaming it on how it has been driven. Do I think people lie about thier driving practices to cover thier butts? You bet I do. Do I think that there are people out there that are telling the truth and have babied the FJ only to have it ripping at the seams? You bet. Do I think Toyota will cover this up like the engines sludging or the tranny's failing in the new Camry ( that was a supplier issue - not Toyota design flaw ) or...? You bet I do.

I was joking - I have never heard of the frame issue on GMT800s...I was giving the Toyota response like they did with the Cam Shafts on the Tundra. I never heard of the frames breaking on GM trucks. I am intrigued, as we have one and have owned several without so much as a cracked fender or split crossmember!

This is the kind of $hit that pisses me off to no end. I will not watch the olympics if they are sponsored by Toyota - period. It is time this F-ing country woke ip and imposed the same sanctions on Toyota and Honda as the Japanese government does to anyone trying to trade in Japan. I bet that would cut into the bragged about $3300 profit more made per car than the domestics! For God's Sake - PUT UP YOUR DUKES AMERICA OR OUR WAY OF LIFE IS OVER! It is high time the American Public woke up from thier stupor and put and end to this!! This ATTACK is as bad or worse than Pearl Harbor - only instead of killing our enlisted men, they are slowly and methodically killing our industry and taking over. It has happened in electronics, and now, it is taking over our automotive industry. Slowly and surely they will win if America does not wake up. This is not paranoia - it is fact. The same can be said about the radical islamists and thier slow rise through the shadow of this country. In the inner cities and prisons they are recruiting and spreading thier hate of all we stand for. It is the continued complacency of the American public that is destroying this country - and the biggest ally to the people who will eventually bring us down.

I heard Gibbs has felt like the red headed step child of the GM gang. And Toyota is going after these guys with a blank check - offering a HUGE amount over what GM was going to pay them to race the Impala. UPS is sponsoring a Toyota - so I stopped using them. Gibb's is Interstate Batteries, FED EX and Home Depot...guess I won't be using those any more either! This is a war that Toyota is willing to fight with every cent. They are after INDY, Nascar, drag racing - every where you look Toyota is sponsoring high profile events and snuffing out the domestics. I for one am tired of it and have turned off the TV and boycott anything with a SPONSORED BY TOYOTA on it. They will not get my time or my money. The more of this that the American public accepts, the worse it is going to get for the big three.

true. Cornered better, and was quicker due to it's ability to rev.

"The frame problem on the GMT800's was an issue that only affected 30 trucks out of the thousands that were produced - no more no less - it was a flaw in the steel sent by one supplier who was not up to snuff, and we found it and solved it quickly..." Sound familiar? And just so we are all clear: The Toyota's BODY is cracking and ripping - not the frame. While the frame is the foundation of sand that the truck is built on - the BODY is the part that is supposed to protect YOU in an accident along with the frame. If it is twisting enough to crack in the crumple zones, what the hell is that thing made of? We have had 6 GMT-800s and have one now. No problems in any of them with the frames and we use them for towing, hauling and otherwise something 90% of the world doesn't - WORK.

It must be the Dodge Days of summer right now, as yesterday a spotless Dodge Lancer GTS Shelby went by us - and this morning a Dodge Conquest went by - both are actually attractive now. Saw a nice Horizon yesterday...that hurt MY ears as I said that...and yesterday I saw the ugliest Ford Fairmont in red and maroon two-tone with matching interior. Oh! And a Dodge Mirada with the original owner AND her wrap around cataract glasses. It was after looking at those two I realized why the Japs were able to get a toe hold on the US Market.

Well, this is not good news aside from the fact that they are at least using the brains they have to keep inventories in check! Still a sad state of affairs that spells out the descrepancy that we face with the Global competition and the lack of tarriffs on those foreign products here. It should be even: If Japan poses a tarriff on all imported goods to protect the home markets, the same exact tarriff should be imposed on them here on completed cars and parts coming into the US. Until this happens, this will continue to be the story we hear told. If Japan Truly wants to play in the world market, they need to treat other countries as they seem to want to be treated.

I did a little poking around and found that the same issue has dogged the Prado 120 (the FJ's twin down under) as well. Seems to be rather widespread, and it does not matter if the truck has been modded or not, beaten or not...I know that owners say things to cover their butts...but this is a problem that is happening all over the world with this design. I would say that it constitutes a problem! I would like to see some equal time in the press on this. Or the complaints about the thin windshields that break on the slightest tap of a stone, or the transfer cases I was reading about in these trucks...or the unintended accelleration issue with the Lexus cars, or the airbags...SOMETHING has to stick on these guys ONE TIME! If this was Ford, GM, or Chrysler it would be front page news and the death watches would all start all over again.

"This is probably only affecting like 30 trucks, so what is the big deal? Just like the camshafts - only 30. The numbers are s low it is not a bother, really. Now, look at this big shiney thingy I have here..." And everyone is right - this will get ZERO press in the world. How, I do not know, but you will not hear anything about it. How the media can overlook the fact that a major manufacturer has a HUGE structural failure that can make the vehicle unsafe is beyond me.

Do FJ's use the same floor mats as a Lexus with unintended acceleration issues? If so, this is caused by the floor mats. Toyota spokespeople will back me up on this. It is not a design flaw or impropper gussetting on the body structure. Definately the floor mat.

*gasp* - Is this not a refreshing departure from EVERYTHING we have seen in the past 30-40 years at GM??? Not a BOX anywhere! Shapes! Color! Eye appeal! BEAUTY! Wow. Now please find a way to make these a reality and bring the inside of the car to speed!

I thought this was a Cialis commercial...cause I would NOT like living with erectile disfunction.

that guage cluster looks like I am staring at a bad set of breast implants! And the plood looks faker than any GM I have ever hated it in. Sorry, Toyota, I do not see $38k there.

One of the best Simpson's lines ever! "Real Acid???!!!"

G.M. - I pledge to you that if you will bring the wagon here, put the LS3 in it, and execute it along the lines of the G8GT - I will buy one immediately or sooner! Where and to whom do I make the check out to for the deposit? Lutz: It would be a major failure on your part to NOT put that wagon on our shores within the next year of our lives. And do not be skimpy on the hot colors either!!! That eye seering green and the bright colors will be just the ticket to put the SUV crowd into these NON BORING cars!