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that 2 door version is wicked. i LOVE it. the 'c pillar' shape looks suspiciously Saaby, or kinda Euro like the outgoing 3 series coupe. Maybe this thing will be a Saab at some point. GM/Saturn needs this thing NOW. NOW THAT would be an awesome Vibe or Torrent.

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maybe. or a year below? Kristi/Kristine? she's NOT one of the head cases. Very nice! I know this, she interned here this summer where i work. All the guys thought she was pretty cool. Of course, many of them thought she was quite fetching too. I only talked to her a couple times but she seemed very nice and NOT messed in the head. YOU should find out who she is and say hi. you can say opus sent you. I should dig back thru my email and see if any other Iowaegian State students interned with us this summer.

he's young, my nickel was on 9:05

Mustang, I forgot you were Iowa State......you know Kristi K? 3rd year?

other segments of the market need GM's resources more right now. They could put a real motor in the G6, for example.

ED? isn't that a term from Viagra ads?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!

yeah, but now it is such a standard, and the standard work week is 40 hours, that everyone is used to it and anyone who tried to go back to slave labor days, the public wouldn't give them the time of day. Your point is that unions brought great change to the labor world. They did, but it was all a long time ago.

don't waste the time GM.

was that Golden Girls or GOLDEN SHOWER girls? oops. flashbacks to my porn producer days!!!!!!!!! blu, hope it works out, don't fear the sticky situation......!

how much time do we have?

while I feel its mostly fair for folks to always get cost of living increases........the forces in your case might be external that say, 'we can do the same work for cheaper'. When unions organize, they also become bigger 'one stop shops' for the folks looking for cost cutting. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

if you can, clean the wax out of your eardrums and reread anywhere where i said 'razoredge is pond scum' right. I didn't. What I did say is, we all had choices to make at the beginning of our adulthood. While any of our choices don't make us 2nd class citizens, clearly making different choices at that time has consequences for the rest of our lives in terms of earning potential from that point on. I went to college like lots of others. Yet say, a pharmacist will make 50-100% more $$$ than what I make. Does that make me a cretin? No, but perhaps I should have taken it upon myself to maybe make a better decision back then as far as choices for the long haul. There's plenty of information out there to suggest to each and every one of us, 'flipping burgers you will make lots less money over your lifetime than being a middle manager for Proctor and Gamble'. We can use youth and our influences growing up as reasons why we maybe made some different choices, but what I was saying is twofold, you gotta own up to your decisions from the past and two, if the career you're in turns out to not be lucrative, get a new career and stop blaming others for the low pay because there was likely plenty to suggest to you over time to make a decision for yourself to live with it and be happy or get out and make a change. The market changes for no one. you must change for the market. Union stands never seem to reflect some of the realities of the markets they attemtp to serve.

here in the past we've had mug shots of this thing on here.....but here's some newer photos anyways. its like they took my aztek and mated it to a BMW x5....

a cobalt or ion or focus can more than hold its own on the interstates at customary cruising speeds. and, if there's a crosswind, they won't blow off the road, either. that's ok, if anyone in the US is driving a smart, hopefully their insurance rates are adjusted appropriately (i.e. MUCH HIGHER), so when the carnage does occur, we're not all stuck paying for the miscalculation.

great post. I think a 'G4' would differentiate itself nicely with a Stage 2 ecotec, 6 speed manual, distinct charcoal interior and killer seats. 18's...too. Pontiac should make the Ecotec an option on the vibe. i know its had to do being a toyota and all, but a 2.4 ecotec in the vibe would be so much more attractive than the torqueless beeoch in the vibe right now.

Queen says no Pursuit, but its easy enough to just call it a G4......I agree, Pontiac owuld regain those sunfire sales with a G4 or similar.

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Nick buddy, it'll come around. Sometimes the girls you like or are hot for you may not be the ones who are outgoing or the 'popular' types we are all told are the ones to be with in high school. once you get out of that crappy high school bullshit for awhile and don't have to be exposed to all that stuff, people become more themselves and I think you'll find that in the near future, somebody who's good for you, you will meet. Its a matter of getting out there and approaching them and talking to them and getting to know them and making them feel special, unique and very good about themselves. In theory, they reciprocate all that right back to you. You may find a very shy girl who blossoms from being your friend and she will turn into this amazing person right before your eyes because you will think of her like no one has thought of her before. Unfortunately our highschool environments breed an atmosphere that only rewards jocks, cheerleaders, and outgoing pretty people. The rest of us suffer through that time and have to wait to enjoy our social lives when we get a little older.

well, first off, you've got enough proof in your writeup there to verify how offkilter those arch. chicks can be as a stereotype. On the next, more personal level though, if any woman, any PERSON, erects rules as rigid and closed minded as 'not gonna date anyone in studio' let me simply say that is just a fraction of the iceberg in terms of what sort of chick hangups she has in the skeleton closet. We're looking at someone who overanalyzes things with their head and doesn't gravitate to the heart's feelings. It also shows you a level of selfishness and how much she'll prioritize the need to satisfy self at the expense of leaving an open mind to follow exploring a new love interest. i.e. this is someone who has put up limits and is knowingly attemtping to curtail the chance of anything good happeing from a love interest standpoint. We can't pick and choose where our suitors come from and trying to control that seldom works. Attemtping to sacrifice too much personal happiness for scholarly happiness to me suggests someone who can't handle both facets of their life elegantly. I've known of far too many women who cannot handle both work/school and personal lives and usually the brunt of failure gets diverted onto the male at some point. I might be being overly blunt and simple here, but unless there's a special magic in her that transcends her self imposed limits, then I would at least knock her down the priority list......(of course if she's cuter than all get up and has an awesome rack and ass, well, i could see being drawn to that!) What this means is bump up the efforts with friends, dormmates, etc. I KNOW its tough, trust me. I worked at a job mostly full time while going through the program (arch.) and I sacrificed a lot in terms of time in studio vs other things. My grades went down some, but not that much. Your social interaction is what fuels your desire and interest in everything else. Everyday I review in my mind opportunities I missed in school in various things because I spent far too much time on 'projects'. Learn how to crank out the projects in half the time. I worked more form home and had more productive time the last few years. i still was up in studio enough to get in on the life up there too. Thing is, studio is a monoculture of liberal types, green types, art types, engineer types, 'thinkers' and philosophers.......4-6 years of that takes you out of normal mainstream thought of the mainstream and the rest of the college group. you become a sad granola eating nerd like the rest of them! At times, I lament not having more good times with my studio friends, but all in all, in the end, 80-90% of the time I considered them as coworkers and I would always have chosen to be around my friends more often, if given the choice. In a complete whole life, you'll remember your friends a lot more than your co-workers. That's not to discount that you won't find a super hottie in the studio, I'm just saying again, force yourself to branch out more NOW. Don't wait for college to end. It gets busier once you start working and you meet far fewer people. Why not sample the ladies menu now when you are in the ultimate women buffet (COLLEGE)? Balance your studio and social life, but don't waste your prime years in college by not getting out and seeking friends while they are so accessible. People put up barriers as the years go on. the experiences you will share with your college friends are the most intense and open shared times and will last you forever. You can sacrifice the A- or B+ grade for B's and B-'s across the board if it means an extra 15-20 hours a week time for you to develop friends and love interests socially in dorms, academic clubs and org's, bar hopping, parties, intrmurals, and road trips. Part time jobs are a great way to meet others too. In my college they kicked the architects into some old farm quonsets. Now I guess they have them in an old remote building that they were gonna knock over, but somebody gave a bunch of dough to renovate, so now the architects and stuff are like 3 miles from the rest of the campus! How is anyone supposed to get a rounded education being segregated like that? Again, if a woman has rules NOW, when she is in the free-est environment she will ever be in, how many RULES will she have later in life, for herself and her hubby? Sample the ladies outside your studio and then report back with your findings. I bet generally you'll have more fun with women outside arch. Psych majors are a trip. those chicks are crazy. Buisness majors are a hoot too. You'll meet plenty of architecture women once you begin working, if you don't meet other chicks in school anyways. My advice, to all....weddings....CRASHER or not. I met my wife at a wedding, so did our best friends. Wedding stories, hey that should be a separate topic! Someone ought to start it up!

its hard to commit your one car payment to something that's not a good freeway car, even if you don't venture out of the gridlock that much.

so long as he didn't get a side impact hit from a suburban at 40 mph.......

anyone wanting rear leg room will immediately flock to this car compared to a Cobalt or Ion. GM fked themselves royally by not putting any rear seat room in those two cars.

well, an aztek like mine equipped without too many goodies gets good mpg and holds like 90 c.ft of stuff and can be bought under GMEP for like 16 grand. base Ford Freestars and SWB Caravans can be had in the 16-17 range. The Freestar's mileage might be less than desired. The Element is a good choice, but can get pricey. A focus wagon holds an assload of stuff assuming you buy a cheaper version. Vans still are the most useful although the often lack AWD. most minivans will get 20 mpg. The Element doesn't really get much more than that.