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06 Impalas are selling well here. i see lots of 06 Jettas and Passats too.

NOT!

boy they've come a long way in 20 years.

i just think the press would have a huge field day with it and never let them up from the mat.

folks would think GM could go out of business at any time afterwards, which would hurt their chances of selling cars long term.

i also think it would damage their resale values as well as it would harm their ability to even get the prices they are now out of them.

let me add that although it may be their only tool to rid themselves of long term 'expenses', I think bankruptcy tact is very short term thinking and may do more harm to their image and product sales over the long term, than it would do good. As much as i can see why they'd do it, it might cause me to lose ll respect for them doing something so crappy and demeaning, even if the opportunity is there for the taking. Its too easy. If they declare, I do think I would support them less and maybe not even at all.

I only ask this question, if GM declares, only for the sole purposes of erasing their pensions debts and labor liabilities, will you ever buy a GM again? what do you think the general public will think? Will it hurt GM's long term sales to declare bankruptcy?

you're right about ghosn trying for folks quitting. he'll be able to rehire all the GM employees when they lose their jobs due to bankruptcy and cost cutting.......

LOL.......

Kerry was a complete rube. bush, not an improvement.

[b] Jesus, I thought the structural engineer I was working with would be the only person ever I knew to throw out the word COPASETIC......

GM should be complemented for continually upgrading the miscues on this car. the new dash/console and door panels are nice. The new steering wheel rocks. The front redo is good. They do still need to fix the seats. They ought to fix the sloppy handling of the 4 cylinder, upgrade the base 4 cylinder engine to 180 hp or so and give the thing a whole NVH overdo to get rid of cabin noise and buzziness. They need to work on the shifter (manual) and steering and body lean. I would hope future Vues offer about 3-4 inches more rear leg room and a higher rear seat. About 2 extra inches in width would ne good too. But yeah, the Vue is still nice.

"Nissan plans a late spring revamp of the quirky Quest minivan,a dud since its late-2003 launch" Well, i had agreed to buy one just recently, until they told me they couldn't deliver one off the lot because of a seat recall, and then i got to thinking, 'could i drive one of those things with the freakish dahsboard'? no, i couldn't but if they fix that interior, and the QC issues and fix the interiors on the Maxima etc. and get the next Altima and Sentra launches right, they'll be ok.

wrongo, i've read many owner reports of altimas. maximas, quest etc. that praise its excellent fuel economy, especially for so much power.

there is no image. none of them came up.

well, it looks damn fine in my garage. not enough scoops and ribbed cladding for ya?

most mag tests i've read of hemi equipped cars have been in the 13-17 mpg range....

every year Lexus has a year end event too. Seriously. Improve the cars all the way through to match the worth of their MSRP or drop the MSRP's. Impala SS's should not have sticker prices of 32,000 bucks. G6's should not be priced near 30 grand. GXP's should not be 33 grand. Maxx's should not approaching 29 grand. If the Maxx were attractive, didn't have a pushrod engine and 4 speed, and had an interior that wasn't cheesy....than ask 28-29 grand. Otherwise don't put a 29 grand sticker on it. Price it at 24-25 grand out of the gate and maybe folks would respect you more. Improve the cars so there are no competitive disadvantages or drop the price to reflect their shortcomings. GXP, it needs better styling, a much better interior with a bigger backseat, and a 5 or 6 speed automatic. otherwise, its a darned good car. But don't ask 33 grand for one. 26 or 27 grand is about what's worth. the sticker should say that.

i love it

they had to cost production costs to pay the labor wages and incentives? J/K....

the crash dummies have higher IQs

maybe no one likes Dan Neil.

there are no pics

I don't know why people bitch about incentives. C'mon, the cars sell price has to reflect what the market thinks its worth. Otherwise its rots on lots. Successful retail is based primarily on fast inventory turns with low actual inventory $$$ on hand, and its based on profit margins. Since GM insists on artificially inflating its sticker prices to hook the occasional sucker and artifically inflate loan values to cover negative equity trades, they have to discount to move the iron to avoid them rotting on lots. There's two options......cut MSRP's. or, have incentives and sales. I'm tired of all the pissing and moaning about the cars having incentives on them. Or, they are fleet cars. Let's all just f*ing come on here. The issue is that the cars suck and nobody wants them. Build better cars. THERE, someone said it. VW will sell every 38,000 Passat it brings to the US. Meanwhile, those of us with yeoman pocketbooks need something affordable. So, a lot of the population needs to shop on price but still doesn't want a piece of crap to drive. Just improve the f*ing cars. I read a story once that said the last version of the Chrysler 300, if only Chrysler had alloted 200 dollars more per car it would have allowed them to substantially upgrade and improve the interior, as opposed to the cheap bits it had. Instead we'd rather put pushrods under the hood, melt kids toys and turn them into dashboards, and leave off folding mirrors and grab handles above the doors. Nope, the marketers would rather have the thousands to play with to make their own jobs easier. As long as GM is selling crap for cars, then they will need to mark them down. Why is it when Best Buy marks down that digital camera 50 bucks, we get all damned excited and run out and buy it and tell everyone we got such a great deal on a great camera....but the moment a car gets marked down, you're a scourge to society for buying a goodwill shirt? Well, I guess its because the world must see you as a poor lemming if you only have 20,000 to spend on a Malibu. They seem to think you are a lower life form buts its acceptable to toss 29 grand out the window for a Camry? -drop MSRP's to relfect true market value -improve the cars to reflect the MSRP or do both, improve the cars and drop the MSRPs.