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cutting labor and production is easy when you don't have union deals

GM has improved their interiors so they are on average a step above chrysler mostly

the new interior is very nice and the car rides and handles well. the tall car cabin is comfy for big folks like moi and aside from being a bit narrow is really comfy. goes like stink too. its a much more fun car than the sister Forenza....

i have no reason to believe it will be decent from any of the photos and considering the 300/magnum/and charger have chintzy plasticky cobby interiors I can guarantee the Sebring's will be just as lacking if not more. Go look in a Grand Cherokee interior or pictures of the Caliber......the plastics and interior are quite lacking as well. chrysler is on a roll!!!!!!!!!

if you shop the ads you see that Nissan incentivizes their product as much or more than GM. the new Quest interior is just an IP rehash. it doesn't go as far as that redo needed to go. its half assed. the titan? a pretty unrefined truck. the F150 is a much more refined truck. i predict ass kicking success for the new Silverado when it hits.

at km77 nice. why can't our malibu look this sleek?

those sebring interior spy photos look pretty damn bad too

HOT WAGON HOTTER THAN AN OLD VISTA CRUISER EVEN

GM's pricing history is too obvious to think that they would price a v8 maro for under 30. If the FWD Impala SS and GP GXP is 30-34k, no way the Camaro is under 30. At a minimum the Camaro would price out about the same the Monte Carlo line. And monte's don't sticker cheap. No way the Camaro undercuts the Magnum and Charger. And hemi versions of those are at least 30k on the lots and most often closer to 35k. that's why I keep saying....don't wait......it will cost you more.....find a nice used Vette now or a nice used CTSv or a nice GTO......

i can't wait for the first person to say the new tundra interior is better than this. Give GM credit here....they struck gold this time...even if the plastics are still a bit not up to par.

this has nothing to do with cars and despite your attempt at convincing, this tundra still has lame attempt at poseur styling. the front says mitsubishi raider gone bad and the rest of it is a truly p*ssy attempt at trying to make minute rice look macho. this looks like what a truck would look like if Kia tried to come out with one. That dash is horrific...whose got the worst dash, the Ridgeline, the Tundra or the new FJ Cruiser? Jim Press, what a dick, 'we're an American compnay making an American truck.'. You know what jerk, get rid of the HOYOTHA name if you want to call yourself American. You're just a cheap ho for the boys back in Japan, stop trying to have it both ways. You want a Japanese name, but you want to be thought of as American. You can't have it all. If you try too hard, maybe folks will start to think that HOYOTHA IS actually American...if they do what will you tell the boys back in Nagasaki or wherever when you say, "gee Mr. Bossman, you told me to make them think it was an American truck and they did, and pretty soon they wouldn't buy em anymore because they had heard that American trucks weren't reliable!"

honestly too, anyone who thinks a v8 camaro will hit market at less than 30k is stupid. STUPID. STUPID. clues 1- the GTO was not close to 30k 2- look at the Magnums and chargers with v8's...try to find ONE on a lot somewhere under 30 grand. 3- an Impala SS with a small block stickers mostly over 30g. 4- most GTP G6's you find on lots are at 28,29 grand your camaro v8 for under 30g with any options is a PIPE DREAM

if there is a camaro there is no need for a firebird, unless its a rebadge...which yall dont want. pontiac cannot afford to go any other way anymore besides 'sophisticated performance'. Let chevy have the musclecar. Let pontiac get the sophisticated GT car like it has now (GTO).

ugly, odd proportions, ugly interior but it will sell like hotcakes GM's new trucks have a huge chance to come through looking good here IMHO. this thing is a mutant.

i do think GM should have a Camaro for image and to round out the product mix, but honestly they should only expect to do it in a smaller volume like 50-80 thousand units a year. So whatever they build for the Camaro has to be a shared platform, plain and simple. Its really the same as to how Nissan can justify building a Z car or G35 coupe. If GM wants to be considered a top manufacturer than there is no excuse to them not being able to do so financially. If the market is there, the management and beancounters have to figure out how to get it done and done well. Honestly, fire them all if they can't. Bring in someone who can. I am a fan of the current GTO but do admit its not at all in the vein of the typical mullet/redneck/gold chain style musclecar or last Camaro. What i like about the current GTO is its sleek styling (assuming it has some aggressive add on features), its awesome interior, and the general aura of being more of a euro style coupe. Someone can legitmately buy a GTO after considering a 3 series coupe and not get laughed at. You can call the cars comparable in a lot of ways. It should have been 5-7 grand cheaper, the gas tank should not have compromised out all the trunk space, and it should have had a moonroof and stuff available though. Saturn really needn't have any RWD cars other than the Sky. Saturn will compare best to Honda, Toyo, VW and such by having FWD or FWD/AWD cars. End of that discussion. So Chevy could stand to have a RWD large sedan, A Caprice or Impala if you will and the camaro. Pontiac should have a RWD based sedan (or 2) w/ AWD option. Buick should have one example of Impala/Caprice version of the RWD sedan, with AWD available. Pontiac should have a GTO successor, again in the vein of the 3 series type of coupe, at a lesser price of course. We don't need a Pontiac coupe to be the same type of car as a Camaro. I don't think Buick needs a RWD coupe unless maybe its a convertible. But certainly i think if they can develop a platform that's usable for all that stuff, it should be doable. They could easily get 200,000 units ayear out of all those models. Again, look at how diverse Nissan can make their platforms pay off, yet the cars are not really clones and they can work in the AWD options to them -G35, G35 coupe, 350z, is the M also on this chassis? -Altima, maxima, Quest. -Frontier, Titan, pathfinder, Xterra What i sense here is the typical GM doing the 'how cheap of a system can we design and just get by' vs. designing a great set of components and then agreeing to it and and then working smartly to find the sweet spot between cost to build and value delivered to the customer. But GM consistenly builds their mainstream cars to the lowest common denominator in a lot of ways so why would we expect anything else? What they are confronting is the notion of being forced to build the good stuff, which pains them to even try doing at mid market prices. i can see the lips curling on the exec's and beancounters faces now. Another thing, no beam axle crap. IRS please.

no, just sludged up

motor trend had a huge blurb in their newest issue about the freestyle and meta one, i think it was how the freestyle was going to get killed and moved to mercury, like it was a new item (that had been reported like months ago). Just yesterday Annie at Ford said the Mercury version of the freestyle was killed and the ford is still around. Too funny. M/T's news is obsolete even before it hits the newsstands. The Magazines should stick to reporting CONFIRMED stories, cause they look like complete and total idiots when they botch stuff and their info is dated. I still get the magazines because they are cheap, but you have to get that 50% of the info in them is wrong and the other 50% is biased. Basically the main thing the mags are good for are test numbers and if there is a comparison test. And then you have to know how out of whack their opinions are anyways.

i'd have to be siding with you on this one. Where's the 2.4 turbo, GM?

the car mags don't even test very many cars anymore that average folks can afford. the car mags are so pompous, too. motor trend quickly became the worst, between the tiny sepai toned images, the retread editorialists who couldn't keep their jobs elsewhere, and the lame articles written by an obviously age and location biased staff. to top it off, horrible car of the year selections.

anything to get the ridgeline off the face of the earth

"retirement benefits, health care, and the union" all things that have no contribution to the finished product for the consumer. not saying that this means we need to eliminate those sorts of things, just saying that this is the obstacle to success in many ways

no, no...YOU will, cuz you already got yours! and its a few ponies short under the clamshell! LOL

got me! I didn't look at the picture close enough! egg........

HOT! Yellow Pursuit with 260hp ecotec turbo? awww, but its FWD sirry, but that pursuit looks hot

the dashtop is all one big unbroken blob. i sure hope they get decent graining and the plastic doesn't look cheap and that it has decent dimensional accuracy. Why no parcel shelf on the dash like the Murano? i recall this thing having a strange relationship of the steering wheel angle to the dash, so it will be interesting to see if those guages are actually readable under that steering wheel. Don't get your shorts excited folks, it still has the same unbolstered seats, the same CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP door panels and ceiling trim, the same dismal carpet no doubt, and no real enhancement to bring the usability and versatility of the seating into par with the Toyota or the Chrysler. No split fold 3rd row, and you still have to completely remove the headrests to fold it into the floor. They didn't bother to move the shifter down into a nice Sienna like position. They only added the absolutely needed flip tray between the front seats like 3 years after debut. Again, its an improvement, but CARLOS THE TIGHTWAD didn't go far enough as usual. any Ipod or mp3 jacks?