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don't forget: asshole Honda dealers too

My aztek has yet even more space than the element, sounds like it has a tighter turning circle, and it gets 20/21 everyday like the element does. 40,000+ miles and no defects. seats 5. hauls plywood. nicer interior. cheaper. maybe GM was on to something? my point: the Element is successful in many ways but i don't think its 100% hit the mark in being the 'ideal' cargo hauler like this article would suggest and like some use as a basis for defending it. The FJ base is a huge advantage over the Element. I would go so far to say that a SWB Chysler Van would suit most people much better and for less money than an Element.

according to my research last fall, you'll be lucky to get 20mpg consistently with an Element. So much for 'economy'. Its underpowered, so why the crappy gas mileage?

agree. how do those dolts earn a living off writing so much crap?

i think lienert will go high in the draft this weekend

LOL, i see a lot of comparisons where someone says you can get a new plasma tv with your money saved......lots o folks want the plasma tv these days.

i was struggling today to come up with any decent looking mid size to large sedan with a nice interior and great powertrain (and with available manual/v6 or v8) for working man's wages. there isn't any. either the styling sucks, or the interior sucks, or the engine sucks. even with all these choices, none of them jump out as obvious answers to the question a lot of folks ask. that the Honda in its mediocre styling but with nice interior has to win this title by default is disappointing.

the black car will be coming to get you soon. watch out.

right, we're not even talking SUV's here we're talking sedans.

as opposed to a nasally strained vacuum cleaner sound at mid-high rpm

AGAIN, DID YOU SIT IN ONE WITH THE GRAY COLOR AND CLOTH INTERIOR? IT'S NOT PRETTY, IT MIGHT HAVE SOME ADVANTAGE OVER THE MALIBU BUT NO SELF RESPECTING INDIVIDUAL WOULD WANT THAT OPTIMA WITH THE INTERIOR LIKE THAT

its pontiac, that could well be the case!~

yeah, those ARE sunfire rejects!

edmunds owner reviews or fuel economy.gov are two places to find owner reports on what mpg they are actually getting.

GRAPE NUTS cereal.....if that won't win you the BEST FARTS AWARD then i don't know what will. chow down about 3 bowls of that before bed then chase it in the morning with some maple brown sugar oatmeal and about 3 glasses of lukewarm milk and tell me if you like it!

anyone ever trap their significant other's head under the blankie and let er rip?

spend about 3-4 hours in the tweed office chair on C/G after eating a good bit of egg salad sandwiches and peas with a root beer or two or something nasty like that and then try to be able to stay in the room. or a nice waffle breakfast with lots of OJ and maple syrup, then chase it with a moosed coffee and see if you survive those 'sweet bloomers' all day. worst fart experience. my friend had a new chevy corsica fleet car and i met him to check it out. he had his new dog with, sitting in the back. The dog was a BIG dog. the dog had just eaten, some really bad leftovers. it was a good 85+ degrees / humid out. we were driving in the car and the dog started to light it up. my buddy thought he would make the most of the situation and turned off the air and make sure all the windows were closed. then, HE TURNED UP THE HEAT to maximum. the dog just kept lighting it up. my buddy locked the window switch. i almost hurled....honestly.

have you sat in one yet? in gray with cloth its downright nasty

"TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA PARTY LIKE ITS 19-99!"

viper, I AGREE! imagine that......

one item to note, the four cylinder in the PT cruiser doesn't get great gas mileage either (real world).

this vehicle badly needs the new 3.5, 3.6, or 3.9

if i were GM the 2.4 would be std on the G5, and the 2.0s/c would be optional on both coupe and sedan....maybe they are holding out for the 260hp turbo? in that case, that would explain the lack of force fed version. plus, a high hp G5 would invade on entry level G6 sales.

this is a bit of an oddball suggestion, but maybe you should check out a Cadillac SRX v6? that would at least get you 20-22 mpg I'd bet...or maybe not. Rendezvouxs get good mileage but are quite dated. For mpg, you could always get a Vibe and add the supercharger if you like but i am not sure what the Vibe's safety rating is. I can't recommend the Ford Escape or Honda Element because neither of them get very good mpg with 4 cylinder.

i like the TL and TSX interiors, but am not gaga over them. They are nice but slightly overdone, at least the TL. The accord's interior is pleasant and high quality, but rather dull I think. The interior of the new RDX is REALLY nice. The RL's interior is overdone/tacky. The MDX needs an interior makeover. The new civic's interior is a disaster.