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i like that and the 207 poo joe. the C6 is bizarre! but i love it!

i'd rather see POO JOE and SITRO-AHN here than Alfa.

I like the 4th place one!

no, no, he would be happier with a Ridgeline.......

why is nissan separate from renault?

mine isn't that atrocious. While I agree the Aztek is indeed ugly, I think the Ridgeline takes it to a new level.

good. please, now go shower.

the lesabre was rock solid but was not with us the whole year

UP TO YOU!!! (no longer hi-jacking ocn's thread)

I can catch

I think

but

behind you in posts......

i'm a little

i just noticed

hey croc

cell phone = need. yeah, even I gave up the briefs a few years ago. Tired of the constriction and moisture. Less itching now too. LOVE letting the boys run free.......

is that right before or after Bob Saget and those cute little girls on that fun show that always turns out ok in the end?

i'll give YOU 200 for that car. i need a beater, and i like THE OVAL POD......

loaded ody EX with added sunroof. the sunroof added a thou i think to a 32k full price sticker. MSRP + sunroof. leather, power everything. kbb private party value 04 odyssey w/ 47k miles Condition Value Excellent $22,085 (no one has an excellent condition vehicle, espeically minivans which get beat on) Good $20,700 (Selected) I considered it good condition. Fair $18,835 their 18,500 trade offer was higher than trade value and lower than private party value. it likely was simply an auction value. all the dealers go to the computer and pull up auction value and give you that in case they get stuck unloading the car. You try to debate the trade value and they basically say, see ya and leave you to 'go fk yoself, homie'....In this case they will preserve 6.5% of that for sales tax.....about 1200 (not 15, sorry). so in the end the offer is 19,700 real cash. I'm pretty sure the 32k sticker was paid and then tax on top of that. So let's cancel out the tax and go only on price paid. Let's drop that 18,5 trade number down to 18 because that makes up for the 1000 that was paid extra for the moon roof. 18k/32k = 2.5 years and 56.25% value retained. that's 43.75 / 2.5 = depreciation per year = 17.5 x 3 = 52.5% value lost in 3 years, admittedly slightly higher mileage than normal. Even if we only go 50% value lost in 3 years, that's still 16 grand out the window. That's not cheap and even the biggest Honda bangers cannot justify saying the car holds its value at that point.

funny thing is, hyundai isn't vastly cheaper. just enough to be noticeable. like 5-10%.

I sure hope the Lancer is more mainstream than the Civic. The new Civic is a huge turnoff to anyone besides pimple face tuners. The Lancer if its nice enough could occupy some of the Civic's prior savvy Japanese car base (fans who like Accords but smaller) and grow a bit more sales. the basic Impreza never seems to be mainstream enough and and the Mazda 3 is far to hip now. The Corolla has gone into barf / geriatric territory. The Yaris won't reach the fan base to get those people. The new Sentra has a chance of being the star of the Asian compact class with most mainstreamers, but it could just as easily polarize like the Quest did.

I would love to see Toyota get DESTROYED. Not Honda, they do build some ok motorcycles, my lawn mower engine....other things. In not as pretentious of ways. They HAVE actually contributed to our culture and business community moreso over time than Toyota. Put it this way....does Toyota claim American to sell more cars, or to be a contributing member in US business like Honda? If Honda cars went, they'd still have all their power equipment and motorcycles. Toyota doesn't give a flying fk. They are just here to extract car sales. Hyundai: same thing. Hyundai DOES NOTHING to contribute to our national fabric. Even less than Toyota. WHAT DO Kia and Hyundai contribute?

Your leader in CANADA will be telling us what to do also because of the oil.....LOL...the USA can't win. I can't believe people don't see the war Asia is waging on us.

wow, does this survey measure QUALITY or does it measure BITCHING?