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no doubt. hyundai's big models a year old or older are all down. toyota must be partially responsible. we must be becoming a toyota nation or the car salesman are blowing people as they walk in the door. Seriously, sonata, accent, tucson, all their 'new' models, down. maybe we ought to be called KOOL-AID nation.

Fit is getting spanked by the Versa. no wonder. the Versa looks nice. The reason the Civic is not selling is because the early honda adopters already got theirs now. Why anyone would buy a Civic over a Mazda 3 only confirms to me how stoned most people are.

2007 Amanti but at least give them credit for updating it. they had an updated 07 in the showroom when i test drove the sedona and i gotta say the leather was nice and overall inside it was alright. I wouldn't buy one though.

Nissans truck sales held up surprisingly well.

the new Jetta effect is already wearing off. I think Toyota is hitting VW too.

13% increase. hmmm. what's the problem there? didn't GM lose sales? How many cars does SAAB sell? let's kill them. get over it. they are around to stay, in small form, but here nonetheless. The jokes are tired and old. Move on.

I just don't want GM to put out a Charger debacle. it needs something contemporary, is all I'm sayin'

we don't need any more 'boomers reliving their muscle car years cars' ont he market. the charger and upcoming Camaro is enough. We need cars that will get drivers out of their money stealing imports. A GTO should outduel G35's. Keep in mind the new CTS is going for a bit more of a luxury look now in 08 so the Commodore is perfect as the spiritual successor to the current CTS at a more repsonsible and accesible price to those buying all the latest eurojap cars.

hell, if the commodore is not Pontiac enough for anyone, then let's get RAGEOUS on them!!!!! THERE's YOUR BRAND DNA!!!!

preaching to the choir. maybe ugly was the wrong word. unconventional. hell, I almost bought one. the interior updates are tremendous.

^^^^^ but fwd or awd is still better than that in inclement weather anyways, so what's your point? ESP still is no savior if your ESP is kicking in just to get your car moving on an icy incline when the FWD and AWD cars are moving off a dead stop without spinning a wheel. Or when ESP is kicking in to keep your tail happy RWD car in line and the FWD or AWD car is tracking straight and true with no fuss. my God so many so called enthusiasts are in fricking denial. front wheel drive is better than rear wheel drive for most drivers who have to deal with inclement weather on a regular basis. AWD is even better yet. I've lived and driven in HELLISH ND blizzards that all the folks who think they've seen snow would make them stay in the fricking house for 4 days. I've had at least 8 or 9 RWD only cars I've driven in my lifetime in rural and city environments in winters. I've driven them carelessly and properly. I got my first FWD car (89 SHO) and it was a MONSTER in the snow and I've never looked back. END OF DISCUSSION. especially if CA folks are trying to chime in. we aren't driving these things in sand. Please stick to making unreasonable emissions laws which drive up car costs for everyone else in the country. People vote with their dollars. If folks didn't like the FWD better for slippery weather, they wouldn't have sold and we'd been seeing RWD cars come back 15 years ago. need i tell the story of why i got my thunderbird so cheap back in 95? "we can't sell rear wheel drive cars in the winter"...explains how i get a RWD t bird for 5 grand cheaper with only 4 thou miles on it than an equivalent front drive car. I still bet the Dodge dealer by my house has a handful of the NEW Magnums left on his lot from when I was first shopping nearly two years ago. Unless they finally had to ship them to fleet. Or the excoworker, whose boyfriend did 3x360 after crossing the median on interstate towards oncoming traffic with their RWD mustang on slick icy roads because the car fishtailed violently at speeds lower than the rest of the FWD traffic was moving. Some of those ND blizzards, the only thing that will get you through the interstates without nail biting during bad blizzards are vehicles with true 4wd systems and lots of weight, Tahoes, Suburbans, big ass pickups, expeditions, etc.

because the 4 cylinder is overpriced to start no one could afford a v6 crv

Quest's performance is not poor. It matches the accelration of the class leaders and is one of the sportiest and best handling vans. Its problem is its ugly. It drives a bit nicer than the new Sedona.

oh yeah, because that would explain the complete death of the RWD market from November to April in areas like mine (snow).

problem is the Camry in no way looks 'upscale'. those I know who have got a 300 bought it for the penis extender (or penis provider) factor more than anything. I can guarantee the two I know who got a 300 likely have no clue which wheels are doing the driving. The third person I know who looked at one but ultimately got a Town and Country instead, had a previous 300 and likely had no clue as well. That said, I am sure some charger buyers are buying on RWD alone. Too bad they are getting a hellaciously ugly car on that RWD chassis.

auto headlights are must. if they trylu do drain horsepower its no wonder they are not on a honda...you gotta reva honda to 7000 to get any rpm or torque. wouldn't want to stall at a stoplight because the lights were on. Gotta have the vtec kick in first. YA KNOW.

truly a cute ute for the crate and barrel set.

hate's not the right word. disappointment at the details they did not sweat. reagardless, i still don't think the 06 altima is anything to get pants wet over. the 07 improves the altima on many of my beefs.

considering honda's bit with the '4 cylinder' only is to keep it economical, it makes no sense when it really doesn't get mpg better than any of its competition.

i would call it G8. let the grand prix remain

if this is what you mean, then, as Dr. Evil would say, "MMMMM, NO...Scott"

had the gto come out 5 years before it did, here, with a different name, it would have sold huge. aero WAS in. when the GTO hit, no. the basic shape of the new VE's are dead on but I would expect some front end tweaking and taillight tweaking and some interior detail revisions at a minimum to be a Pontiac. My guess what they are thinking is, get the car here now as it is and by the time Oshawa is up to replicate this car, they can give it some new fenders maybe and a new dash. What Lutz is doing is getting this thing here NOW to prove how fast GM can act. edit-considering GM is still in financial problem mode, I can't see why anyone would think this a bad move. This car is immediately better than 90% of the cars GM sells (probably better than 100% of the cars it will sell at this price) and will tap into buyers that otherwise won't look at GM. It does not cancel any existing models and is already receiveing much positive press (i.e. free marketing buzz) for even considering it. I think the G6 scratches some of the essence of what the new Pontiac should be, but with top notch performance, and no compromises, Pontiac will instantly gain status as the top American performance car manufacturer right away when this car hits and will instantly be on par with many of the supposedly superior Euro brands. The GXP Bonne and GP did nothing for Pontiac in their war vs. others. This car is a direct hit. It makes all the Hondas and Toyos look like the stupid starch cars they are.

yes i am so rich with that architecture job. i just found out i passed my last exam. so now I am bonafide. that ought to get me a what, 500 dollar raise?

my take is Iococca and Chrylser really sold America on FWD by starting with the Omni and Horizon and then with the K car and original Caravan. The Citation was very influential also as well as the Ciera / 6000 / Century. FWD = more efficient packaging / cheaper / more traction. All in all there's nothing to bitch about. if you are going to complain, complain that GM etc. didn't update their cutlasses and reagls etc. fast enough. Why? Folks wanted the FWD?

drive a 500.....the car isn't the greatest but my car insurance has gone down 3 times in one year.....! 49 bucks a month for full coverage. the aztek ain't much more...and then BV wonders why i buy ugly cars...because i can take his YI and use it to pay my car insurance.....