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but fwd or awd is still better than that in inclement weather anyways, so what's your point? ESP still is no savior if your ESP is kicking in just to get your car moving on an icy incline when the FWD and AWD cars are moving off a dead stop without spinning a wheel. Or when ESP is kicking in to keep your tail happy RWD car in line and the FWD or AWD car is tracking straight and true with no fuss.
my God so many so called enthusiasts are in fricking denial.
front wheel drive is better than rear wheel drive for most drivers who have to deal with inclement weather on a regular basis. AWD is even better yet. I've lived and driven in HELLISH ND blizzards that all the folks who think they've seen snow would make them stay in the fricking house for 4 days. I've had at least 8 or 9 RWD only cars I've driven in my lifetime in rural and city environments in winters. I've driven them carelessly and properly. I got my first FWD car (89 SHO) and it was a MONSTER in the snow and I've never looked back.
END OF DISCUSSION. especially if CA folks are trying to chime in. we aren't driving these things in sand. Please stick to making unreasonable emissions laws which drive up car costs for everyone else in the country.
People vote with their dollars. If folks didn't like the FWD better for slippery weather, they wouldn't have sold and we'd been seeing RWD cars come back 15 years ago.
need i tell the story of why i got my thunderbird so cheap back in 95?
"we can't sell rear wheel drive cars in the winter"...explains how i get a RWD t bird for 5 grand cheaper with only 4 thou miles on it than an equivalent front drive car.
I still bet the Dodge dealer by my house has a handful of the NEW Magnums left on his lot from when I was first shopping nearly two years ago. Unless they finally had to ship them to fleet.
Or the excoworker, whose boyfriend did 3x360 after crossing the median on interstate towards oncoming traffic with their RWD mustang on slick icy roads because the car fishtailed violently at speeds lower than the rest of the FWD traffic was moving.
Some of those ND blizzards, the only thing that will get you through the interstates without nail biting during bad blizzards are vehicles with true 4wd systems and lots of weight, Tahoes, Suburbans, big ass pickups, expeditions, etc.