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within the last hour I've changed my tune. I don't care much for the looks. too many borrowed styling elements and overall chaos. aura/malibu both are more attractive. Only thing 'arty' about this car is the way is attempts to be unoriginal. again, honda proves it can never lead in styling. there is a real cheap korean quality to the exterior. it should be interesting to see what buyers do. this is a downgrade from the current model, in terms of mainstreamability. honda really shot themselves in the foot vs. camry. looks like the next mazda6 has an easy path to the title now. mazda fans say yeah. 21/31? how does the new malibu compare?

Honda makes a 3 series now? the sedan looks better than i thought, except the grille / front end is still horrendous. coupe looks even more ricey than i thought. the g6 is nicer. the interior is better than i thought but i do think its a bit zoomy for the mainstream and its pretty derivitive. aura and malibu exteriors are much better, IMHO

i thought vw offered 5 or 6 speed autos in their compacts, some with dsg even

wow. the interior is among the worst i've seen. the edge looks luxury in comparison. exterior=average. my wife's futura and citation reincarnated today would have nicer interiors. this is pure garbage.

mazda dealers are advertising new cx-7's for a tick under 20g around here.

the lambdas have very good sporty handling and good firm ride. sounds like the hihglander is a floater.

well, all the rich princesses across the land can breathe a big sign of relief now. If daddy can't pop for the 3 series, than this fills the bag. CHICK CAR / BMW wait, those are redundant

ouch

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there are big girls that still retain a pleasing shape and nice proportions, even if its bigger. and there are those that do not. i think the latter is people's consensus here.....

SWEET i always wanted a fiero my college buddy SHELDON had one.

o c'mon, how do you think madonna got discovered. it's well written how bigahoe she was. it certainly wasn't talent...initially.

PACK N PLAY FOR TWO + STROLLERS + XMAS PRESENTS + LUGGAGE FOR FOUR + TOYS + CAMCORDER BAG + ETC........... WE'VE HAD TIMES IN THE PAST WHEN THE AZTEK HAS BEEN JAMMED FULL AND I'D WISHED WE GOTTEN THE FULL ON MINIVAN. I REALIZE FOR SINGLES AND DINK COUPLES THIS ISN'T A PROBLEM, BUT IT IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW SOMETIMES YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO PUT STUFF IN YOUR CAR AND QUITE HONESTLY MANY COMPACTS ARE PRETTY USELESS FUNCTIONALLY. TWO LOVERS AND A WEEKEND TRIP WITH LUGGAGE AND COOLER AND CAMP CHAIRS AND RIFLES AND YOUR ARE GETTING CREATIVE TO FIND PLACES FOR STUFF. EVEN AN ASTRA 5 DR WITH THE REAR SEAT FOLDED IS GONNA BE TAXED. I CAN AT LEAST GET A BICYCLE INSIDE MY 500 I THINK WITHOUT TAKING OFF A WHEEL. NEVER TRIED BUT I'M PRETTY SURE I COULD. VERY FEW COMPACTS COULD YOU DO THAT. I THINK A MIDSIZER LIKE FUSION YOU PROB COULD. IT'S ANNOYING TO USE A BIKE RACK.

any word on the AS-IF edition? as in 'as if the world cares'? LOL

OMG that is 100% true.......the lexus ES should get an award from the nation al reators association as car of the year or something.

trend? hahahahaha. that's a not a trend. i don't see people buying premium compacts in droves. example? why does a new volvo 40 have to be advertised in the paper (like i saw yesterday) list 26995, buy for 20995? around here.....as far as sedans and cars in general go, the midsizers rule. no one buys coupes, small cars are not big sellers here anyways. maybe its different in other parts of the country. i would buy a base mustang before a 20k compact. as people adjust to 3+ dollar gas, they will adjust their expectation on how much to spend on gas and the cycle will repeat itself. fashion conscious shallow folks will buy the small compacts because that's the only way they can still afford a 'name brand' right now. one cycle of that, and you will have folks saying, damn i wish i had a bigger car. one example....a work buddy's wife insisted they get a new car when they got pregnant for the first time. So they did get a volvo 40 wagon and it was a 30k transaction. Then, they found out she was pregnant with TWINS. Now they have to take his ten year old pathfinder when they go anywhere where they need lots of space to tote the two kids and lots of cargo. He is kicking himself for letting her talk him into the Volvo and he realizes the garden variety minivan would have been a much better solution for them. She was stuck on needing a euro brand though and they couldn't afford the XC90's of the world. She is too much of a princess to settle for a grand caravan. the only folks i know that gravitate towards small cars are young singles and urbanites and liberals, cuz they are the only ones crazy enough to blow 30-40k on function compromised compacts, or they have a small parking stall behind their small cramped condo. and that's a not big group even though they like to think they are vocal. for every smug leftie that buys a fit or yaris there is still more confident gun toting suburbanites who drives a suburban loaded with 6 kids and battle gear to hockey games. midsizers still represent the best value solution out there for dignified transportation. spending more than 20k for a mainstream compact is nothing more than a fashion statement.

ok, i am a dumbass. i didn't know what a cincinatti bowtie was and then after looking up a few more things i found out i didn't know what a cleveland steamer was either. oh man. life is just not simple for some, is it.

LOL

if the pT had an interior that wasn't cheap as hell and an engine that didn't suck (and suck a lot of gas) then it would still be selling in droves.

inifiniti M is a snoozer on wheels

which is why it will sell. just like a middle aged princess wife, also, the land cruiser won't perform, either.

you still nailed them though, right? thread=carry on

how much record company (richard) did amy S&F to get her contract? no one who's 23 has lived enough to sing the blues. very few anyways.

hey, wait, are you sure the article shouldn't say "Honda sued over horsepower claims" honda claims their vteccy cars have power but 100% of the time, they don't.

astra is not premium. its probably not as good as the mazda 3. and the mazda 3 is baseline acceptable mainstream compact. so if the astra cannot outperform the 3 and out value the 3 then its not worth the extra $$$$$. will the astra even outperform a rabbit? it simply depends how many options you get. if you keep the options sheet modest and the price closer to base, then the astra is not a big sin. it is just a delta. its not much more advanced than a cobalt. cobalt with a nice interior. don't buy the hype. the mini is not really worth what they get for it either. the one thing the mini does have is iconic style the astra does not. don't get me wrong, i like the astra. i hope they don't try to make this another 9-2x debacle. when i can go get a mazdaspeed3 for 22 and change it pretty much destroys the value arguments for any other compact/subcompact. where i do see a favorable comparison for the astra is vs. the civic. the civic is dung and the astra is a much nicer package overall. corolla is not a real valid comparo since its just a commuter car.