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"ACCORD AWD BROUGHAM" must be a lot of ricers living in assisted living these days. all grown up they say!

http://www.leftlanenews.com/acura-rl.html I SHAWD DO WANT THIS CAR where's the v8 ;P all the charm of a Kia Optima

oooh, wait, this means the BAS hybrids could maybe get E85 also at some point!

Journey is XL7 sized. Don't stop believing! This thing really will make life a bitch for the Flex. The new Explorer will need to get here ASAP.

now re-read your post and look at a Toyota Highlander picture, or Pilot concept. then delete your post.

sweet. good move, GM. Malibu and Aura should get this eventually.

styling interior and exterior is why it makes the journey nearly irrelevant.

saturns model now is to sell like 5-7 models at moderate volumes. not 2 models at big volume. astra should fit into that plan.

just read autoblog's writeup on their time with an 08 Grand Caravan. glowing review. if the VW improves on that, the ROUTAN should be a well done machine.

o c'mon and show some love for the pushrod motor made in china!!!!!!!!! i bet this traverse is a damn good indicator of what the next NOX will look like also, inside and out. wow does this make the dodge journey seem irrelevant.

exactly. doesn't that pilot concept look even more stupid now? (not that it will effect the behavior of a typical kool aid drunken honda banger)

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no negative comments. what i was expecting. and, it does not render the other lambdas useless. good job chevy! pricing and options will be key. ugh! another possible choice now! as the edge populates the earth, more and more, the less i want one. and a third row would be nice. the traverse will duke it out well with the highlander. You can buy this over a CX-9 also. It also makes the Flex look like it might have a rough go of it. and it strengthens the case for CUV's being cool and vans not although the routan does hold promise now that i have seen that. i can use my GM card on this, not the saturn. i think we should applaud GM for coming out with a timely product that has no major malfunctions. you can see now why are ditching vans. if you do not like this vehicle then i will send you to time out for 4 hours in an uplander. by the way, Joshiepoo on a sub board of BON called chevytraverseforum or something says the traverse will get a blind spot warning system.

first off, i was ready to bash this until i looked at the pictures more. the dash is nicer than the chrycos, and the front end and rear end revisions are better also. chrylser's 3.8 in the vans is known for holding up ok and delivering good mpg. you could not make the same claims for a VW powertrain. VW's have problems even staying running. In a segment where reliability is needed, its better that VW did not put its own engines in there. The new 4.0 chrysler is a good motor (i tested it in a pacifica). it moves out pretty well and that should be a nice uplevel engine in these vans. In C/D's recent test it had accel times near the top so it will be fine for this segment. i would be fine losing the sto n go. sto n go is very useful, but everyone forgets it compromises the seating quality in the second row. Since the third row stows, I am ok if the 2nd row merely folds in the VW version but has better, more comfortable seats. We also have no idea if the complex mechanism for the stow n go would actually hold up over time. rear end is very odyssey like and the front is Eos like. those two tweaks are minor but do tend to make this van much less stodgy than the breadvan chrylsers. buy the dodge and get a lifetime warranty. whatever.....most cash strapped families, or at least more and more, are leasing. plus the chryco warranty has 'conditions'. families do not maintain cars to a rigid standard. So if this leases as cheap as the DCX vans, they are in like flint because this product is more attractive and VW showrooms have much better coffee and the receptionists are actually attractive. Since its not a real VW, you won't need to be at the dealer 24/7 attempting to get things fixed, although it is still a chrylser so you would have to still get a few things fixed. i was ready to rag all over this but it fills a place for VW in the market until they bring their own van here. I can get this van, drive a VW, but still get it worked on for some things at the dodge dealer a mile from my house. VW's option packages will probably be easier than the chrylsers.....for example, heated seats are often alacarte on Jettas etc. so maybe that will be the case here too. this is a definite alternative to the honda and toyota and nissan. SO, I'll at least have to look at it. what you are not reading about that is the white elephant in the room, part of the reason CUV's do so well now and vans don't (aside from the mommy needs to preserve her sexy image thing) is that women these days are very fixated on AWD and only the toyota offers it. They gets SUV's and CUV's to get the AWD, because they do not think any vans have it. It would help the van segment to offer more AWD options. I can attest as friends of our traded their odyssey for a pilot and another friends they ditched their caravans for a pilot as well. AWD was one of the reasons as much as the mommy complex / i'm still trying to be sexy even though i am 35 now and have popped out a couple kids factors into it. with the routan, princess mommy can feel good dumping her jetta for a VW van because VW's are still cool. This is nowhere near as heinous as the 'Acura SLX' or other horrific rebadges (Saab 9-7 and 9-2). It may not be as ideal a product as the concept van, but i think they could not justify the business case for that. Face it people, rebadges like the Suzuki XL7 and this are a way of life. Look at consumer electronics, its all rebadges. Zenith plasma=LG. Best Buy 'Insignia' store brand=whoever they can get to make them, many times LG. Magnavox=Philips. this may not be as cool as the GTI, but if VW, like the asians want greater share and volume, they cannot just sell a one trick pony. apparently they felt they needed to be into vans too. this sure makes the touareg seem even fatter. the touareg is small but like a half a ton heavier. LOL for me, if the interior is nice, its gonna be worth my time to check it out. i hate that shifter loc, but my hope is the door panels are not sandpaper plastic like the dodge cars are so much of today. don't forget, in europe this allows VW to make the van here (cheap) and ship it over with their badge on it. I wonder if europe gets a smaller motor choice or a stick option? It is amazing how much nicer the whole rear end is on this thing compared to the chrylsers.....yay, this totally boots the Kia off the list now! WHEW!

nice wheels. is the blonde chick available?

this is merely step one in replacing an undesirable name and brand (Ion) with a desirable car (astra). they are upgrading the lineup by switching now, and then when the next astra comes out they will have built off the momentum of doing the swtich now. the next astra they will build them here and sell in higher volumes. in the interim they just needed to have an entry in place with the name and that it wasn't laughable and damaging to the brand like Ion was.

not so bad. better than the loserish camaro interior. its an upgrade over the other LX's even though it still has some of the bad parts of them. fortunately, buyers of this sort of car don't get as obsessed as the euro bangers tend to.

ford will soon only really have 2 1/2 brands and of course no carl/peter........mebbe that's why

is joe buck gay?

x2!

belicheck=whiny bitch moss=done (trust me, he will suck now) i have to say i am impressed with Eli.

http://www.thestar.com/article/299753 whatdya think, carbiz? does toyo figure on a tough year in the US so will try to make up for it in CA?

all i know is GM has f@#king sucked in terms of everyman's sporty vehicles for as long as i can remember. ever since i had my 89 SHO i have been waiting for a GM car that would be as fun to drive. I have wanted a FWD sedan w/ DOHC v6 and stick and good manners. the lumina possibly was a decent car but had terrible styling inside and out; so laughable you could not take it seriously. the g6 finally came with a v6 manual but the dickwads in GM stuffed a pushrod and terrible shifter in the thing. WHo was responsible for that manuever? Now when all I f@#king ask for is something simple, a v6 car with stick and a little cargo space and winter friendlyness and they cannot offer that. Saab is too spendy and too small. G8 won't ever be AWD. For as big a company as GM has always been, they have never made an effort to sell very many specialized vehicles here in the US. The g8 represents an affordable enthusiasts car for people like me, yet they won't go all the way with it. Oh well. there are lots of manufacturers vying for my money.

but your pontiac dealer can service the sky and the chevy dealer can service the aura no doubt.

have your cake and eat it too...the hhr ss has the balls to the wall accel. covered, yet it will still get much better mpg than the truck. payments will prob be cheaper as well. http://www.chevrolet.com/pop/hhr/2008/sstu...interior_en.jsp check out those nice seats! if no go on the SS HHR, the reg HHR's have been very incentiveized lately although i am sure the astra feels more refined. of course, the astra is nice too. I want to try to drive one some time soon. I am pretty sure i would need more than the 1.8 to make me happy though. camaro.......you know, a v6 camaro with stick will prob net 20+ consistently driving around......