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60% of GM sales are outside the US so maybe that's ok.

if the RL is RWD, then the TL can stay FWD, IMHO. They need to bring back names, LEGEND, integra, vigor.

I like it actually! I had a 95 tbird i should get it back and do that to it.

of course it is carbiz, we wouldn't want to seem intolerant by not making it easier for those of other nationalities and such, by not putting the fruits of THEIR work on a pedestal.

Flint is right FOGM is right. it doesn't excuse the poor management of Detroit's 'best' but still, they have had to deal with issues the Japanese haven't. The Germans get by on the 'we'll pay way too much for a 3 series' factor. It's most disturbing that now 54% of so called Amercans won't even look at a domestic brand, despite they put out some really good stuff these days. And Japan has put out some real stinkers the last few years, notably Toyota. 54%. won't even look. The only way you'll get supposed citizens in this country to even consider US cars is to move the automakers out of Detroit and to some hip and trendy spot like LA, Seattle, New York or whatever, it's just so uncool for cool people to be somewhere like detroit, must not be enough mocha there.....shut down all the factories and reopen new ones in non union environments or overseas.......buy off all the press like toyota does and start sending huge dollars to the politicians. At least GM is trying. They threw up their hands at making 'north american' products anymore. The new Cobalt next year will be Asian, so that should satisfy the humpers. The next Aura will be German, so that will satisfy the humpers. The higher paid people in this country that fund the car markets don't care if our businesses are owned here, as long as they can live the self first overpaid lifestyle that goes with it for themselves, they don't care who ultimately controls the purse as long as they can suck off the hind tit.

congrats! aura is a great car.

new honda styling is a disaster. mazda 5 third row....not suitable for humans

i'll have to pass, i don't think my 4 year old could even fit in that back seat

good move. but why there is no nav is really a sin. turn by turn should be integrated with a visual map.

never turn down the hip waders. kidding aside, stay safe and we'll look forward to hearing from you when the mess is subsided.

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back in 99 i had big GM bucks and needed a new car. my two choices were cavalier and prizm. i got the prizm, it was more refined. it felt light and tinny though. in my instance, i chose the prizm, had the ecotec been out, i maybe would have got the cav.

camry seems to be fine with average or lesser styling, average or lesser drving capabilities, and average or lesser value. final result = urban legend created by hysteria and past

can you get a DUI with your remote start and not being in the car? LOL

CRUISER- the dealer told me last night the HHR has a 2k rebate right now. That oddball one you are admiring would have the rebate i think, and prob a nice dealer discount. In my case, i have nearly 2k in GM card burning a hole in my pocket and GM even has an incentive out there to make up to 2k in my final lease payments on my Ford as well. What I am saying, check the rebates and test the waters on the dealer discount. The Fit is a thoughtful car, but cmon, its light, has no power, and will not have the solidity of the HHR. A few spring potholes and where is the Fit? And if you make the choice solely on engines alone, you already know the ecotec is a great torque four that gets great FE and has passing reserves. That Fit motor just can't keep up, despite how seemingly awesome hondas torqueless wonders are. Mazda 5 is nice and has more interior versatility than the HHR. I don't think its faster though and at least from when i researched it, i don't think its real world FE was all that much better than cars like the Ford Freestyle were (Freestyles consistently scored 20-25 real world city, my 500 has been seeing 22-23 this summer in town). A 20k sticker to me translates to a maximum 17k price out the door after rebate, maybe even closer to 16 than 17. If you shop around, you'll find virtually nothing as cool in that price range. Talked to my neighbor last night. He is a big car guy. He works part time for Dodge doing promotions on the side. He owns an SSR, that's his toy. his wife needed a car. he said he tried to steer her into an HHR but she wanted AWD so they got a Suzuki SX4. he didn't even get a Caliber...LOL. Point being, he thought the HHR is a super package as well.

the SS dont have em!!!! does the SS also lack armrests though?

nice. a little ricey but otherwise ok.

were the same. we want high function, low operating cost cars that are solid and somewhat interesting and mid level fuel economy. not seeking to validate our existence with an image car that cost wayyyyy too much. i did stop by a chevy dealer tonight because they supposedly had an HHR SS bt it wasnt there yet. i sat in an HHR with tan interior for a long time. i wish the cargo area was a little bigger and the hip room 2 inches wider but its a neat little cabin inside for such a cost conscious car. if you can't spring the SS a 2LT would be nice.

forester vibe jetta sportwagen, 09 escape 4 cylinder

all that glass and black paint would really tax the A/C

the 08 exterior changes really give it more road presence, too bad the interior remains so bland.

HHR SS- work on getting a deal and you can be closer to 20 than 25, get the stick Jetta wolfsburg edition.......2.0t and DSG with sunroof for 23k a great gti alternative (more than your limit, but still a whole lot of good for the dough....i am tempted to drive one) cobalt SS base taurus- 18 and change. no lie. not attractive, not blazing fast, not fun. old mans car. just a good value. ( i know, snicker away ) mazdaspeed 6 how bout a used grand prix GXP? you might actually be able to find a new 07 or 08 GP for 20 grand or less right now. skip the g6 unless you can get a v6, the grand prix is a much better buy fusion is ok only if you want something more mainstream aura? big discounts right now skip the astra, nice car, no hp there is a cool element to the HHR SS i got sitting in one at the autoshow that has me at least thinking a lot about it lately. i think its the over the top style of it. in SS trim in red with red sport seats and the saab shifter it really is a bitchen presentation. and trust me the rabbit dont have HALF the luggage space. current gen mazda6's are cheap right now too.

here's a story for ya. i got the hail damage on my car estimated yesterday. it was at a dealer and so i went lot cruising in all the dealers nearby. the pontiac shop had 2 g8's. one in the orange which i just don't know........the other had cloth, which, the cloth looks like its kind of nice. ANYWAYS.....both g8's had massive hail damage. such a shame to see such a hot car with all that hail damage. they were both v6's i think.

mustang. cheaper, less weight.

i do find it weird that it exists still...there must be some sort of tax writeoff or something for this.