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how else is he supposed to ever get sex? if he has to give up his choice of car just for a chance to get it twice a month i guess that's why the world is littered with pilots, revs, crvs, and crap

so they'll ruin it by taking it off sigma and reducing its interior usefulness and making it soft and cute. but yeah, the srx had two main issues. looked like a wagon, interior was hell until a year ago.

C/D finally has a writeup on the v6. 0-60 in 7.0. i had predicted frm my test drive that the v6 would be a second slower than the malibu or aura v6. the aura time i got off their webite was 6.2 and the malibu ltz was 6.5. they kind of alluded to the same thing i felt. the v6 5 speed auto is a bit lacking in refinement. to me its a little NVH tuning and it needs a new tranny. it also needs the DI to get the power up. i think they should explore that becuase if they could get the DI version into the low sixes with a 6 speed (or manual!) and refinement, that would prolong the zeta. however they tested at 17 mpg. about the same as the taurus AWD or did that get 16. not much better than the small block but certainly not terrible for a 2 ton car.

wow, that is negligent on their part.

the whole auto market is run by women. they are the ones that wanted tinny little asian FWD crackerboxes (because they didn't feel so big) then the women had to have minivans, and then SUV's have to sit up HIGH and be SAFE). Now they all want to drive ugly little wussy untough hatchbacks (CRV, RAV). The more i think about this. The SRX wins awards and drives great but the new one will prob outsell it by 3:1 because its more of a chick car. But chick cars sell. 9-4x, new SRX, etc. all chick cars.

WOW. that 2.2 really puts out the power.!

cox.

too bad the too narrow epsilon platform kept this car from getting the width it so is crying out for visually and funtionally inside the cabin. the car would be so much more drop dead gorgeous if it had had 2 more inches of width. they should have antied up for better materials inside the cabin also.

the vw gearbox is great but they need to shed the 5 cylinder.

conversely if our cars last longer because of more frequent maintenance, then that is less cars we manufacture, less energy and materials consumed to make them. fewer cars in the junkyard.

i want 'visual voicemail'....i.e. have my voicemail come into my outlook or similar. can i do that with just my normal typical regualr phone company messages? listening to and accessing voicemail through tedious menus over the phone is a pain in the ass.

as far as i'm concerned let the world masturbate all its wants....... tastefully, in private of course...LOL

i would do fit before civic. i would do anything before civic but that's just me.

VONAGE? I'm thinking about it. Cable phone? pros and cons please.

QUOTE(HarleyEarl @ Jun 22 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]405877[/snapback]I'm worried, is the Solstice a chick car?....I see mainly chicks driving them. I'm wondering too, will the new Subaru Forester be as popular with lesbians as the last one? satty held the title for one day with most aged thread revived and now today we go 3 years back! just anout any asian cute ute and the tiguan are chick cars supreme. the CRv is the worst/best example and the RAV4 and sante fe too. But the new forester may end up taking the whole crown.

ford fan here. i like the focus, but the astra is a step above and not really too much more spendy. no hondas!!!!!!

well what's amazing is that now whoever is hosting this site, it doesn't crash simply because you are doing a topic search. LOL

i forgot had you tried a saturn astra XR yet? what is neat about this thread, people talking about realistic alternatives and everyday decision making factors. Not just getting hung up on what consumer reports says. I need to try a Vibe GT yet. On the Aura vs. G6 vs. Malibu debate. I think the 3.5 is still a nice option to have even if the 4 cyls are a great price. So then to me what stalls on the G6 if you don't need a coupe is that the Aura interior to me seems so much nicer and more polished than the G6. Even with the G6 versions in tan which is the way to go. g6 coupe is a pretty car. not in a chick pretty sense, just a very nice coupe design......which nissan of course tried to copy or was it the other way around?

wow, this wins the prize for 'reviving old thread'~!

no hondas please. or i'll have a FIT. rabbit will be faster than the astra. why not a cobalt SS turbo? how bout like a used 9-3 210hp 4 popper?

i think if the next astra line is complete, and well executed, they will gain lots of that ion volume back.

argh! well i guess you could say your truck got stump f-cked

you must be counting that footbrake

to be honest the 17/25 rating isn't what kills me on the v6 with the g8. hear me out, i've driven the v6 and v8 of the g8. i've driven the aura xr with the 3.6 and the thing has balls. the same 3.6 in the g8 is neutered and i don't think its due to extra weight per se. its the $h!ty transmission they put in the g8 v6. the 5 speed auto i did not think harnesses all the power the v6 has. plus all the power robbing 90 degree changes in the load path of the driveline that rwd has vs fwd. if the v6 became like a 290hp DI and the tranny became a good 6 speed (even ford has good 6 speeds now) then i think you'd have a scenario where the v6 is desirable and could conceivably justify ownership in spite of its gas mileage. keep in mind many fancy imports with 4 poppers and such don't really get better mileage either in ratings or real world. the small block at low rpms will sip fuel on road trips but will guzzle it in town which is where most people will drive. I am tempted by the notion of a stick shift GT but the RWD only makes me nervous in my climate, even with snow tires (all that power). even though pontiac touts 50/50 weight on the G8 GT if you read road tests its coming in around 52-53% on the front which every percent hurts you in a cold climate as far as rear traction. the turbo 6 might weigh as much as a small block though, and even the largest 4 popper turbo which would be light on the front end might still not have enough torque....hard to say. in all my rwd cars, the ones that were worst in winter and in general for nose plow were the heavy v8 cars. my 77 century coupe with the 3.8 231 v6 (like 100hp!) was so light on the front end in comparison to the v8 versions of the regal and cutlass of that day, but it was one of the best winter cars I have had. Neutral in the snow because the front was not a boat anchor. ultimate point.....i don't think the gas mileage for the v6 is that much of a transgression when really its the fact that the powertrain does not utilize the gas or the 256hp (whatever it is) in a very efficient and smooth fashion. By my seat of the pants the v6 g8 is a full second or a bit more slower to 60 than the Aura XR which to me is troublesome. Notice we don't have instrumented testing of the v6 g8 in the buff books yet. Anyone knwo what's its testing out in AU? final point, the aussies get the v6 stick combo......wish we could.

the astra is a nice car tho! i liked the astra xr i drove the other day! a nimble sprite little car!