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to me its a matter of if i qualify for all the incentives, then i can get it at a price i know it won't cost me anything / much to drive the car for a couple years....then if i need to sell it to upsize again, i won't lose my shorts on trying to sell a car with no value. I can get the car fully loaded and not break the bank. we got the taurus X and I love it, and even though its not as big as a minivan, it can serve as a family hauler enough I think. I know over time I will lose money on that car, even buying it lightly used. So its not like I need to get another large car, even though it would prove useful to have a second larger vehicle. if i can get one at the price i want it might make sense....if i can't there are too many other options available at the higher prices that i can justify my money as better spent....price vs. value.

ITS EASY TO GET EXCITED ABOUT THIS THING! easily trumps other hybrids on style. GM is in the game in a huge way. love the interior!

citation? 77 impala?

congrats! way to go!

spent noon today on another LOOOONNNNNNGGG astra test drive. really is a nice drive......sweet. we all know the shortcomings but this car makes up for those in other ways. the car feels more like a glove than many other compacts. it has the feel of an expensive comfortable leather jacket you always want to wear. i spent about 15 min playing with the advanced audio. the high res screen is awesome and once you figure out the menus and how to adjust your sound settings you get real sweet sound out of the effer. sucks that this car is going so underappreciated. salesguy said one customer went on a long trip with a 5 speed and averaged 42mpg for the trip....admittedly at only about 60mph, but still. he said mileage seems to be exceeding EPA #'s and this corresponds with user reports on edmunds.

cool

i thought a base escape 5 speed manual would be a nice runabout. you can't get SYNC with a manual transmission apparently. why they do $h! like that really pisses me off.

funny. if the insignia were in a saturn showroom RIGHT NOW....i'd seriously consider one, it'd be in my top 3 sedans. I want to see the new astra because i want to see if they fix the eff ups of the current one. in the US this car needs to full line-sedan, wagon, hatchbacks it needs USB, bluetooth, armrest cupholders it needs horsepower and 6 speed trannies i think saturn needs to change its logo to the opel logo, BTW.

i love tina fey.

CHILI FRIES!!!!!!

because the mini is more expensive? i've read reviews saying the astra handles better than the mini, depends on the mini you get

NO PERSONALITY it SUCKS

want salty fries? popcorn salt in lieu of reg salt.

g8 and astra are competitive for the most part, they just don't get much in terms of marketing. they seem to get pretty good reviews for the most part. basically where GM seems like it may go or needs to go chevy- premier value brand (volume) trucks, small cars, mid size, value priced cars, crossovers, vans, etc. i would get the dealer network to merge Chevy with BPG. then pontiacs have 3-5 models, rwd all of that. Buick the same. Basically Buick and Pontiac become higher priced support to round out the Chevy line. GMC becomes luxury versions of the chevy trucks and crossovers. Cadillac is its own dog, but may be combined with either Saturn / Saab / Hummer / Chevy BPG where they can make a difference. Saturn is left to its own devices. It may coexist separately with ChevyBPG where needed. I would experiment with Saturn and Saab together and see if that can do anything for Saab. If GM can't revive hummer in a new direction then i am ok with them being sold. Saab I think just needs a new philosophy, positioning, and pricing and NA business model. Let's see how the next 9-5 and 9-4x pan out before we pass judgement. I would change the Saturn logo to be Opel logo. Screw it, if they are going to sell Opels then make the badge the same. Basically Opel=Saturn mostly. Saturn and Chevy may badge engineer a couple things. At this point Buick and Pontiac if to continue should evolve into step up products from Chevy that can coexist in that showroom. For example, no G3 or G5 unless there is a substantive difference. For example, the Pontiac should have the unique turbo and unique interior. The g6 should be alpha RWD. G8 would be RWD. The park avenue would anchor the buick lineup as a luxury alternative to the G8. Likewise there would be an alpha buick. I would consider one front drive buick sedan product (lucerne equivalent). I would still be skeptical as to whether there is benefit to any buick or pontiac that is a compact. I would give buick a 2 door hardtop convertible. Pontiac, the roadster. Pontiac a couple of coupes maybe. Chevy IMO does not need a coupe of any sort. as far as crossovers in the chevy BPG combo, it may be tough. After this Saturn is clear to evolve as Opel does. Then, if Saturn fails, cut the cord....but at least you still need to sell opels so...... ultimately with GM now we have GME and GMDAT which will seem to turn out most of the world product. GMAU and GMNA will be the ones with the most noncompliant world order markets. AU i can see acquiescing to the other world models with the exception of the commodore and ute being popular there. GMNA will continue to crank out trucks but really most of NA's product mix will have to mirror the world offerings sooner rather than later. Its why the Aura decision vs. the Insignia is such a head scratcher, even if Aura sales are up now. IMO it may make sense for GM to consider moving Caddy's HQ and major base to Europe if they really are serious about taking the brand worldwide. Get caddy out of detroit where it is subject to poisonous business culture.

saab needs to be repositioned between VW and Honda XL (Acura) with better pricing and this, coming from salesmen I have talked to.....if they took the GM card they would increase sales a bunch.

this car sucks

i guess the temp of the oil is critical. sorry to hear about you going limp, blu.

she's more genuine than hillary and has the demeanor to accomplish more. she also has the tenacity to be a bulldog and not a pussy on foreign policy and on capitol hill. margaret thatcher with a rifle. she makes hillary look like a hack, hillary never did anything. i doubt i'd agree with all that she professes, but she picks a route and goes with it. and i don't think she'll put up with bull$h! and gridlock. i can't wait for a WWF style matchup between her and Pelosi. hair pulling, commence! now the x factor is the same thing that got bill clinton elected. since so many women wanted to have sex with Bill, they put him in office. Its the same thing here, in reverse. Its not a crime for men who find her fetching to allow that to affect their vote a little, when that's how clinton got in office. i sure think she's got some style that's fer sure. But she's not a nut job like hillary. this election is like 'the apprentice'. i think what we'll have to evaluate on here is more about 'mental makeup' than actual experience. by that litmus, hill already showed she was a wuss with her little campaign estrogen moment.

is the pre election spin starting?

saturn internet rep says to me on an Astra.... GMS minus 1500 minus 2000 (competitive lease end bonus) oy and i have 2000 GM card dollars too......... is this dangerously teetering on NO BRAINER?

let's see, the i_vTec is controlled by google then?

brutally awful. its like waking up after a long night at the bar, and finding rosie O'D and Oprah in bed next to you.

any truth chevy is readying a Beretta hybrid? ? seriously, look at the shape of the cruze front end and this. its easy to see that the volt is a little influenced by sharing this delta chassis.

nav=stability control. no nav=no stability control. honda jerks.

is its resale depreciating or is the unibody frame depreciating apart?