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gas is 2.29. i hope the extra $$$$$ for the hybrid pays off........

agreed, the vue has the makings of a great daily driver. the handling and power are awesome with the v6 also. i did get some lease quotes, and while i like the vehicle, its befuddles me as to why with nearly 5 grand in incentives and money down i can barely match the payment of the lease of my 500 which had a higher sticker and i only put like 1000 down 3 years ago. bottom line, we all know leasing isn't there anymore. even as a purchase its more car than i can justify as the second car, at this time. if the economy and our jobs were paying off more, than the vue is a great blend between economy and luxury. i think anyone who drives a CRV really ought to take a VueXR out too, and then decide what's best for them.

si? they had a high mpg version of the crx at one time, didnt they?

we need a new 'CRX' hf. and a chevette equivalent.

the ridiculous thing is, its not. a good v6 in a midsize car will get very good mpg, escpecially, it won't consume hardly any more fuel than an overweight cute ute with a 4 popper. take a crawling recreational vehicle on a 1500 mile trip and then take a 3.5v6 altima on a trip, the mileage won't be that much different.

i just read the title of this thread. i own an aztek, there is no shortage of things said about my car.

i never got around to bothering to get a quote on the vue. dood, what mpg are you getting with yours? low 20's? if i got a vue, it would have to be a v6. i really kind of decided i would prefer to get another ford before i ante up for the v6 vue. even with the incentives, its too pricey for me just right now. but i may just check on a lease. just to make sure.

check all the cubbies for narcotics. stay away from police dogs.

in addition to having no incentives this month. which makes no sense for a end of year with so many of them on the lots. now i am even stuck. i can't decide between an astra or a vue. that is, if i go GM. in my price ranges (after incentives are factored in), these are 2 of my top 5 GM faves. The XR really shocked me for a soft ute CUV. You can actually have fun in the thing! Way better than the worthless piece of crap 09 forester i drove the other day. that's MT's "SUV of the year" but don't believe the hype. Its basic crap.

i have a mancrush for anything with a meaty steering wheel to lock the hands around and excellent handling. nothing like love of the Opel Blitz. vues got some flaws but it rocks that you can get rainsense wipers and it has the same '3 clicks and done' blinker that the astra has. best part about the vue is the dashboards vents are perfect. round, up high. in fact, everything on the center stack is located very nicely. one factoid that i did not know. the 4 cyl vue i drove had TAPSHIFT! not that it matters much with a 4 speed, but it did help keep the 4 popper in its powerband on hills and such. GM really geared that sucker to optimum speeds, even if fuel economy is down a bit and you occasionally lose some steam north of 75 mph. the 6 cylinder? all balls. tranny blasts out quick shifts too, even if its caught in a lull a time or two. sucker does cloverleafs nicely. on the XR, leave tapshift on the 6 in second gear, and then charge hard off the end of the cloverleaf, nail the gas and thumb it into 3rd. you're OUTTA there! I used to think paddle shifters were the sht but the thumb rocker is almost better because your not trying to figure out where the paddle shifter is when turning the wheel! GME may show the US a trick or two yet. Now, about that INSIGNIA.......

ish, that Opel influence is something. Test drove a Vue tonight. So now, in addition to my mancrush on the Astra XR, I have a similar mancrush on the Vue XR. The 4 cyl XE even too. Solid as a rock. The XR has mucho cajones under the hood. XE shocked me, i had to look at the Monroney to make sure it was only a 4 cyl. Corners on rails, for a crossover. HOW DO THEY SELL RAV4's? There is no comparison. The new Forester is junk by comparison. (yes, i've driven both of those). Yup, I'm a Saturn fan now. Sorry folks. Still like the other GM stuff, but Opel's done it homework here. Now if they could just get the word out! (and the prices down)

or they are princesses. daddy said their you know what don't stink. and maybe if combined with being trespassed, well yeah!

I know. it was me taking an op on a punchline.

well, that's fewer places to need to go to on thanksgiving and christmas

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wow, how bad was the Forester before? I drove one today, a new 09 and i thought it sucked. seriously.

apparently GM wants to have access to chrysler's cash and ability to get bailout money....and then wait a couple years and sell them and profit from that. Let me ask this question, would Jim Press get a role at GM?

someone get wpb-h on the line and see what the maxx in his slacks gets.........

i used to be a bit of a matchmaker. Nowawadays i associate with lots of mid-late twenties single women who all seem to at one time be begging for me to clue them in on that perfect single guy they fantasize about. and then ultimately i get screwed because i either can't fix them up, the ones i find they end up hating, or they project all their anti male angst on me. No lie. Women find some way to hate on the men. Stay away. women are complex, psychotic all of that. you must beware.

what an intersting range of extremes. prius for saving fuel, but then get the old 70's guzzler?

trust me, north dakota gets some serious snow too well, i just got back from more test drives. malibu, cobalt and subarus. subarus. the forester. my God, the hyperbole has reached a new epic proportion. what a steaming pile and yet it wins suv of the year. puhlease. the impreza, a little better, but i did not feel its that great and it certainly in no way deserves the rating C/G gave it in a comparo earlier this year. One thing this really is doing for me, makes me greatly appreciate my fords, and appreciate some cars that don't get no love. it does help clear some things up, there are a few small cars i like, but overall i am still of the opinion that you have to get the RIGHT small car if you do. Now i know why my neighbor, who is a big car guy, why he got that SX4. It's a blast, and its a quality piece. But I gradually am moving to the idea of maybe waiting a while until I find maybe the right deal on a used car I like a lot and is a quality car, the fords, taurus/x/flex/edge, or the Magnum (I might even consider a charger now). I wonder how cheap chargers will get once GM buys Chrysler. Small chance they could snag me with a cheap Jetta. It might be self fulfilling prophecy a bit, but seriously, any time i have driven a Japanese car, I come away rather underwhelmed. It gets proved out to me time and time again. All i really think i have left to drive I think, the focus manual, maybe an escape manual. the 09 escape drives so much nicer than that forester. I think I still need to drive a base HHR and maybe even an Aveo, and Vue, and then i think i've slept with the whole sorority. i should be able to figure out which one has the richest daddy after that, i think.

the one i was looking at stickered for fully loaded XR 5 door 21,5 (manual) and during employee pricing + dealer discount they had the price at 17,8. Now they say the price is 20,250 or something. now help me out here, but its october and september is usually the big model clearance. there are still many 08's left and if they want to get rid of them and the 09's are coming, logic says that a car that was overpriced to begin with should at least stay at the low price at the end of the model year. basically no EPP and no extra dealer incentives were applied this month. GM has no desire to sell cars this month i guess. I've seen in the past where sometimes incentives get added midstream, although we are now past mid month. The 1,500 dollar boost in the 09 price and lack of incentives this month says to me that the weak dollar and expense to import the car is killing them and they don't want to sell it for what its actually worth on the market. they are going to hold on 2-3 more months and at least still try to sell them for profit. good luck. to put it in perspective, the 08 auras and vues start at about the same prices. Saab 9-3's are below 20g right now. to me the real issue is not paying so much that i am underneath on the car for the whole term of the loan. when i use my own incentives, even if i am lucky to achieve a 14k purchase price....that's all the car is worth once i drive it off the lot. 20 is too much for that car when so many midsizers are hovering that price point and there's MANY used cars you can get at 20k that will knock your socks off. In my mind if its a 21,500 sticker its at least a grand too high on sticker and really for 138hp should only go out the door for 17,500 to 18,000 fully loaded.

time to update?

is it time for an UPDATE?

but they don't sell the OPC here!