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now, imagine that you can only afford to own one car.

again, this is wisconsin. was he drinking huber?

RWD only on a car here in this climate a surefire guarantee it will never sell. dealers try to rid their lots of RWD cars before november so they don't rot on lots all winter. conversely, if i lived in the south, damn straight i would get a RWD car.! there is a large part of the country that is snow influenced though. google infiniti all wheel drive G35. infiniti had massive sales increases once they developed the AWD version. it meant their dealers in the snow states could actually keep their doors open in winter.

folks, dig back into your memory. do you recall the hot sellers the sebring/stratus and intrepid/concorde/300/LHS were? cab forward, ye was.

FTW! and you didn't even mention the calibre and compass!

i loved the fastbacks GM had then, the citation, the humpback seville and 442........ when i met my wife she had a citation. so did my college roommate. biggest piles of $h! on the road, but from a utility standpoint, they were very good. i would love a car that size today. with better quality of course. correction, with ANY quality.

dude. you're missing my point. I like the value and driving experience the LX cars provide. the magnum is one of my favorite cars. but hear this, they simply don't appeal to the masses, and chrysler really needs a car with mass appeal right now. are you kidding me? I'd have all sorts of fun with an SRT.

The prius also looks like a vibrator that got left in a high temperature environment and melted slightly.

YEAH, REALLY BAD, ACTUALLY. WHO ARE THE RETARDS AT GM WHO FIGURED ON THAT?

LMAO...pwned. IMO, an alpha solstice for the next gen would be PERFECT. DO WE GET ALPHA? if the dumbasses that designed the solstice and sky would have given a trunk and a place to store the targa. i can buy a new carryover crossfire for 18 grand right now. why in God's name would i get a solstice when i could get a crossfire that cheap?

first thing my wife gravtitated towards when i did the sell job on the astra for her recently ....'can you get a car seat in it, it's a small car'. she examined the access with the wider cut of the door at the top and gave the blessing. she cited our old diamante as a car she would not comply with, because the door opening was too hard of access for the car seat. the charger has a similar door cut, so i can see why women would avoid that as well. keep in mind nearly all women hate rwd too.

as much as the 300 helped chrysler a short few years ago, it will be their death now.

the blingness of the LX cars is why women avoid chrysler as a brand. there, i said it. polarizing architecture is one thing.....people aren't buying a building for 5 year loan to drive and hope it has some resale left at the end of the ride. now is when i make the point that people buy vanilla looking homes too. The PT cruiser was a p*ssy wagon. You may say it was polarizing, but it had tons of 'cute'. when it came out next to the new beetle, it rivaled it in cuteness. common thread, it appealed to women. Again, i repeat, you need to sell cars women want, because women control your testes and your pocketbook. Like I said, you don't see women flocking to LX cars like they do to p*ssy little CRV's. Note, look how 'soft' looking the new Ram trucks are. Nice trucks by the way, i saw one the other day. Good job Chrysler. Nice point about the 76 cutlass, EVERYONE wanted those i recall when i grew up. i ended up with the buick clone, a centry coupe, when i got my college car. those 2 coupes, the regal/century and cutlass were very nice mainstream cars. the olds waterfall grille was classic.

interesting take. makes sense. still, i say with the down market as it is, people are buying 'safe' right now. you think the OMNI GLH and the o24 and TC3 (not to be confused with mp3) weren't what saved Chrysler?

dang, no wisconsites here to defend their honor.

The Rogue at first i thought would be good. Its not further evolved from the Kia Sportage.

i know two people who have been waiting for this thing to come out. one of them, specifically because of the blend between mpg and towability.

if i got a jeep, i'd want this one.

I would tend to argue that the Charger is even very polarizing for large segments of buyers, ones who buy frequently (i.e. women and import intenders used to camrys and stuff). Whereby some of Chysler's previous designs of the 300, Intrepid, Concorde, etc., Stratus and Sebring, etc......those were all very accepted by the mainstream. Cars that are too macho and butch like the 300, Avenger, Charger, etc. just don't resonate well with the folks who tend to populate the mainstream segments.

Alrighty. Two-three years ago, it was about Chrysler's huge success with the 300 and the entire buzz of 'polarizing design'. It became all about, 'if you want to have a hit in the car market, you can't just have vanilla designs. Good designs will often offend many people, but if your design is polarizing it means you can achieve a greater passion level for your products....'gotta have it' factor (copyrite, C/D). Now, as we look back and see the disaster that is called Chrysler, its safe to say they bet the farm on polarizing design too much, and it may be their demise. Most folks won't consider an LX car, it's a 'pimpmobile' or 'gangsta car'. At best, its for a graying white man who may lack something between his lower limbs. Love or hate, strong reactions, can drive sales of a particular model or brand when times are good. But now, when the relevance of each model matters even more in a new era where the market is forgiving of excess models and brands..... Has polarizing design become a complete liability? Are people avoiding polarizing cars, especially with tough economic factors? Is Chrysler's downfall largely to blame for their polarizing model stylings? Did they voluntarily check themselves out of volume market segments by alienating large chunks of the car buying population from cconsideration because of 'unsafe' design? Has the public charicature of what a car like the 300, or Magnum, or Charger is, far overshadowed the fact that the car itself is actually a very good car?

one of my favorite comments was 'maybe the dog enjoyed it' good point though, a man works all week and just wants a little. mama treats it like gold, and uses it as a tool. too bad the dog has to pay. but i bet the freaking dog gets revenge on the lawn later.

http://jalopnik.com/5068365/aev-hemi+power...ler-first-drive

http://jalopnik.com/5067841/2009-saturn-vu...rid-first-drive Kind of a cheesy writeup, not sure how legit, but its something.....

I seriously could not stop laughing from some of the reader comments afterwards...... You have to get that Minnesotans pick fun about how WI residents are among if not the most intoxicated in our nation, and so many of these stories come up. http://www.startribune.com/local/33210424.html again, the comments are HILARIOUS