regfootball

Korea and US companies. Makes sense with global manufacture, GMDAT, and US locations.

Holy crap you are a crab ass. THE BAS 4 cylinder was developed concurrently with the epsilon sedans. it was added to the vue to help amortize the cost of the BAS. The Lambadas will eventually get the dual mode tech to amortize that as well. You can't limit that tech to ONE model. The Vue is Saturn's feature product. If you go back the last few years, its their best selling model most likely. When these products were developed, it was with the premise that CUV's would be a booming segment, and Saturn would be the image brand to do that. BAS1 is the first step. BAS2 is the second step which will arrive soon. If you compare the purchase price and mpg of the Vue BAS to the Escape hybrid, you see it has tangible advantages and disadvantages. One thing it does do, it allows hybrid tech at a cheaper price. For 09 with the revisions made recently, this farily good sized CUV should get a person 30 mpg in normal driving. unheard of for a solid, good handling vehicle with cargo space. As far as the dual mode, its a two pronged approach. introduce the dual mode in a lesser price vehicle so sticker shock (see Tahoe) does not factor in with the lambadas. Sell the Vue dual mode for the same price as the escape hybrid. It should get near the equal mileage and have big functional advantages and performance advantages. Note: the escape hybrid is a pretty damn nice piece itself. PERHAPS the part you are coming up sniffing fumes on is that to develop the 3.6/dual mode sysmte, they need to amortize its use over several vehicles and MAYBE the Vue was chosen first because its probably one of the largest volume vehicles they were considering it in. ALSO, if you note the TOWING CAPACITY (something they maybe felt would be a marketing advantage in this segment) for the Vue will be quite good and part of the dual mode's sell is that its superior for towing because of its DUAL MODE 30 mpg and hot rod performance from a CUV that can tow the snot better than some larger vehicles and is priced less than the SLOWER RDX (which uses twice as much fuel). HMMMMMMMMMMMMM the reason the accord v6 hybrid was a waste, its performance was no better than competitions non hybird v6, and it was not a desirable vehicle for much else other than as an appliance. its price did not justify its advantages. in other words, a typical honda. go beyond the LCD and you move on from the big ugly H. a 4 cylinder vue as escape hybrid prices would not sell. a BAS 4 popper at 5-10 grand less with 93% the mpg will. the 6 cylinder is introed on the vue and then other vehicles to spread it across the line. the vue was the best chance for them to kick off this powertrain and showcase the TOWING ABILITY. by the way, the reg vue 4 cylinders after break in are seeing close to the same mpg real world as the slow as sh-t CRV.

people, the 4 cyl vue hybrid is a value offering, BAS+ and low price = 30 mpg = great buy the dual mode was developed with the 3.6 and 6 cylinder, don't you recall, this may go into other cars with the same powertrain (i.e. lambdas) where they need to utilize its touring prowess.

a buddy of mine come to think of it had a bitchin 442, i think 75 vintage, but maybe 76. i have to check that out. it had the real fast back roof and sculpted rear fender and triangular window. my century coupe had the opera windows i think, vinyl roof, and 6 slot grille. i think his 442 had swivel buckets. swivel and go! GM had it first! who doesn't have the dash design of the 77 cutlass embedded in their brain?

silly boy. GM isn't financing anyone right now. Now, get in your Aveo and go like mad!!!!!!!!

v6, odd firing 3.8 litre v6! actually, the f-er was smooth on the highway and had great mpg and to me, it was a very tractable usable engine, even if it lacked balls. the car was very good in snow because the front end was so light. regarding the amount of room under the hood. no lie. the family cat used to sleep in the engine bay. one day, unbeknownst to me, i embarked on a trip and said pussy was under the hood. about a half mile from home i heard a loud noise and felt an aweful bump, much as if hitting a massive tree branch. I quickly glanced in the rear view mirror as the car shuddered a bit, and all i saw was Sylvester 'bouncing' across the pavement behind the car. i went back to try to find pussy in the ditch, but to no avail. best part of the story, we though pussy was dead. a few weeks later, sly returned to the farmstead. a bit of his tail and head fur was chopped off. His movement was not at all graceful.....and my God cats can give mean glances but i never got an evil staredown like i did when he sauntered past me on his homecoming. I am surprised he didn't jump me in the middle of the night. I might have a pic of the car somewhere

now, imagine that you can only afford to own one car.

again, this is wisconsin. was he drinking huber?

RWD only on a car here in this climate a surefire guarantee it will never sell. dealers try to rid their lots of RWD cars before november so they don't rot on lots all winter. conversely, if i lived in the south, damn straight i would get a RWD car.! there is a large part of the country that is snow influenced though. google infiniti all wheel drive G35. infiniti had massive sales increases once they developed the AWD version. it meant their dealers in the snow states could actually keep their doors open in winter.

folks, dig back into your memory. do you recall the hot sellers the sebring/stratus and intrepid/concorde/300/LHS were? cab forward, ye was.

FTW! and you didn't even mention the calibre and compass!

i loved the fastbacks GM had then, the citation, the humpback seville and 442........ when i met my wife she had a citation. so did my college roommate. biggest piles of $h! on the road, but from a utility standpoint, they were very good. i would love a car that size today. with better quality of course. correction, with ANY quality.

dude. you're missing my point. I like the value and driving experience the LX cars provide. the magnum is one of my favorite cars. but hear this, they simply don't appeal to the masses, and chrysler really needs a car with mass appeal right now. are you kidding me? I'd have all sorts of fun with an SRT.

The prius also looks like a vibrator that got left in a high temperature environment and melted slightly.

YEAH, REALLY BAD, ACTUALLY. WHO ARE THE RETARDS AT GM WHO FIGURED ON THAT?

LMAO...pwned. IMO, an alpha solstice for the next gen would be PERFECT. DO WE GET ALPHA? if the dumbasses that designed the solstice and sky would have given a trunk and a place to store the targa. i can buy a new carryover crossfire for 18 grand right now. why in God's name would i get a solstice when i could get a crossfire that cheap?

first thing my wife gravtitated towards when i did the sell job on the astra for her recently ....'can you get a car seat in it, it's a small car'. she examined the access with the wider cut of the door at the top and gave the blessing. she cited our old diamante as a car she would not comply with, because the door opening was too hard of access for the car seat. the charger has a similar door cut, so i can see why women would avoid that as well. keep in mind nearly all women hate rwd too.

as much as the 300 helped chrysler a short few years ago, it will be their death now.

the blingness of the LX cars is why women avoid chrysler as a brand. there, i said it. polarizing architecture is one thing.....people aren't buying a building for 5 year loan to drive and hope it has some resale left at the end of the ride. now is when i make the point that people buy vanilla looking homes too. The PT cruiser was a p*ssy wagon. You may say it was polarizing, but it had tons of 'cute'. when it came out next to the new beetle, it rivaled it in cuteness. common thread, it appealed to women. Again, i repeat, you need to sell cars women want, because women control your testes and your pocketbook. Like I said, you don't see women flocking to LX cars like they do to p*ssy little CRV's. Note, look how 'soft' looking the new Ram trucks are. Nice trucks by the way, i saw one the other day. Good job Chrysler. Nice point about the 76 cutlass, EVERYONE wanted those i recall when i grew up. i ended up with the buick clone, a centry coupe, when i got my college car. those 2 coupes, the regal/century and cutlass were very nice mainstream cars. the olds waterfall grille was classic.

interesting take. makes sense. still, i say with the down market as it is, people are buying 'safe' right now. you think the OMNI GLH and the o24 and TC3 (not to be confused with mp3) weren't what saved Chrysler?

dang, no wisconsites here to defend their honor.

The Rogue at first i thought would be good. Its not further evolved from the Kia Sportage.

i know two people who have been waiting for this thing to come out. one of them, specifically because of the blend between mpg and towability.

if i got a jeep, i'd want this one.

I would tend to argue that the Charger is even very polarizing for large segments of buyers, ones who buy frequently (i.e. women and import intenders used to camrys and stuff). Whereby some of Chysler's previous designs of the 300, Intrepid, Concorde, etc., Stratus and Sebring, etc......those were all very accepted by the mainstream. Cars that are too macho and butch like the 300, Avenger, Charger, etc. just don't resonate well with the folks who tend to populate the mainstream segments.