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in september i got a quote for 19875 on a saab 9-3 stick with sunroof. MSRP was like 29-30k. if i had been able to use my GM dollar on it then, i would have been on it like stink on sht. GM let you use GM card on saab last month finally, but of course, duh, ya gotta have income to buy a car. Point being even the cheapest advertised prices i have seen on new CTS is 30k. hence at least a 10k spread.

hasnt opel won best of show at one of the major EU car shows 3 of the last 4 years?

i think those sold more than the BLS, didnt they.

no point in RWD only if the motor is sitting tranversely which is what EPS is.

AWD is needed to make the car market viable in snowy climes.

this might be where they go with it.

why has no one mentioned, 'does Germany really need another car manufacturer'? In theory they would benefit more from being part of GM. Now they are cast into the albatross of the other German makes.

considering only a few months ago i could get a 9-3 with stick and a couple options for a hair over 20g, i would buy that. i don't have the extra 10-12k for a CTS, even though obviously it would be a better car. the CTS in real money in real shopping is more spendy than the 9-3. that was where my statement comes from.

x2. like i said, unimaginative. i could have designed it in shop class in 82 with a t sqaure.

the last XJ (first aluminum one) was innovative and a good performer. I think it only weighed like 3600 pounds. RWD excitement!!!!

you could have read my mind with that entire post. here is where they are going mercedes / bmw > cadillac > acura > vw although it troubles me a bit since audis new platforms are no longer heavy front bias. although i think audi is trying too hard to go up market too. perhaps the world ahead will be all new. maybe rwd platforms will come close to extinction before our eyes in the next decade. rest assured too, cadillac is trying for volume here. people, this economic crash means people won't be spending as much on luxury cars anytime soon. the luxury segment may drop down in transaction price and perhaps cadillac is only viable competing in a higher volume / lower price segment now. so why would we need buick then? Just asking. I still wonder why Pontiac has to go.

truth is i would drive this if it were priced same as saab and available here. i like the 9-3 although a little extra leg room would be nice.

i think they are assuming a couple things. 1) any lux car must be sold AWD going forward and so why bother with anything RWD bias if more of their cars are to be FWD to start with 2) they feel regulations going forward on emissions and mpg can only be met with lighter duty platforms 3) they feel they can get adequate performance for the customer with suspension and steering tuning to manage the engine placement and weight distribution to me this means not a lot of the DT7 will be FWD if they want to be taken seriously. For me, I can never afford this car anyways. But honestly, why can GM sustain one rear bias platform?

LMAO I really love the new Jags but honestly their interiors are highly unimaginative.

IIRC, aren't I6's perfectly balanced?

i thought it was being made in beijing. good looking car though..

viper has long been the poster child for afterthought interior.

edmunds goes out of their way these days to spew venom on American iron, GM in particular, you'd swear they were trying to catch up to Farago and TTAC. the functional items that have been criticized, its fair game, but as blu said, this is a toy also. I don't think their venom should be as much. This car is a looker and can back it up. Perhaps it needs a suspension adjustment. That could be fixed easily. GM will offer a performance upgrade kit for only 650 bucks more. My big issue with this car aside from the functional items are what some above mentioned.....a little more room would be nice. but that tiny lotus doesn't have much room, does it? edmunds needs to keep their heads on straight here. the solstice IIRC beat the miata in a C/D comparo not too long ago. No one wants to be caught dead in a miata regardless of how well it drives, because its extremely effeminate. The Kappas are style on a stick and if you don't like the flaws that go with, don't buy one. flash, anyone who wants a crossfire coupe with a manual? local dealer has one with 7k miles on it for 15k. I like that car even though i think i like the kappas better. crossfires are steals if you find one. cars like this will be pushed out of existence by obama nation more than likely soon, especially with the bailout. we should rejoice that cars like this were being made. i think for the money though, looking at a 370z might make sense too. even the hyundai genesis starts to look like an option too.

STOP IT WITH YOUR ATTEMPTS AT "A LITTLE GOOD MANAGEMENT" LOL

so much for globalization. this makes ford's direction look even more impressive.

just to note, i have copy pasted some content from the link at the top here...

http://www.offroaders.com/news/International-Jeep.htm

funny thing is, we moan about GMNA not playing nice amongst itself, yet the GME folks can't even come together either.

http://www.saabsunited.com/2009/02/saab-op...lationship.html no wonder GM was non functional