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magnum is indeed one of my faverit cars. i wish we sould get the 300 wagon here.

can this thread be revised to say which TWENTY FIVE GM vehicles would you get rid of?

here i thought you meant the cadillac northstar engine......... its like they havent updated it for 21 years........

i saw the new prius on the platform at the autoshow the other night. nice improvements over the current DORKY version, although the car is still the leader in dork status. perhaps only the kia rondo can have a higher dork status. anyways, the funny thing about the prius including the other current ones on the floor was that there was no one else looking at them. ditto for the new insight. the insight wasn't even on a platform and no one even cared. i think the economic bubble has people re-thinking what is true economy. everyone wants a good mpg like a hybrid, but no one wants the stigma of the green look anymore. no one wants to be targeted as a liberal greenie dork in a new time when common sense and back to basics is what its about, just like how there are people now who won't admit they voted for obama. prius and insight say radical. true economy means low overall cost on a mainstream budget. value for the buck. the only thing these cars offer is mpg. everything else is in deficit to other cars in the same price range. therefore, not a good use of your dollar when in every facet of life right now people are trying to get most value for buck they can. of course 4 dollar gas means the mpg factors in a lot more. but hybrids need to ditch the dork style and go more the way of the fusion, which is the premiere hybrid right now. real useful car. and sensibly stated. no one had any interest in the prius, which BTW has a heinous interior. the insight just simply looked like a korean knockoff of the prius. the insight's interior was more passable. i am sort of disappointed in the insight though. the original to me was the style standard for hybrids in their initial incarnation and had the most spirit. the make a prius knockoff that says kia so loud doesn't work for me. everything i have read says the new insight and prius will get about the same mpg. as quickly as it was about the hybrid, i think now it really says how much of a foolish sucker you are for getting one. maybe not so much the insight, but like i said, that simply says, 'you were too cheap to get the toyota so you got the kia looking one instead'. 'look honey, i paid 8 grand too much for a compact hatchback!!!!!' toyota is starting to get schooled by hyundai right now anyways. its amazing how fast the tide turns these days. scion and toyota are going to get rode by hyundai big time.

i sat in a new camaro at the auto show the other night. the mullets were out by the way. the interior design is way cool, but sorry, the plastic quality is a major flaw. GM really needs to get with the program. its a sales deterrent. funny though, the 'touch points' are all good (shifter, steering wheel). the manual shifter in particular, at least not running, felt silky and snick snick. another issue. mailslot windows and overall in the bathtub/lack of outward visibility. to me, trunk space was not an issue..access maybe, but for a pony car it looked fine. rear seat room did not look horrible either. seats even felt comfortable and had support, even if the cloth felt a tish cheap. interior assembly quality was quite good too. just that there is sooooo much plastic and its all that darned cheap $h!ty GM plastic. new lacrosse had acres of it too. you could just see it. i did not sit in the new stang but the dash bores me. However, for livability and material quality it seems like it may be better day to day. certainly you can at least see out of the damn thing. a couple hundred more bucks for better plastic would make the camaro a knockout home run. seriously. the cheap plastic ruins it. just like it does in the malibu too, only even moreso. but i guess if i drove the v6 manual i may change my mind. i can imagine that gearbox being slicker than........

that law would get overturned in a court pretty fast. the fact that a bunch of those fruits and nuts would try to make it law though shows you just how misprioritized that looney farm is.

if HHR goes another generation it needs to gain space utilization similar to an Xb or Soul or something like that. current HHR has way too much hood length which takes cabin space away from the vehicle. plus, its heavily contoured body carves away even more useful space. its possible to make a vehicle with more space efficiency but still has has character. i like hhr actually, but in 2010 model year there are too many other choices and it just seems dated and doesn't have a calling card. the orlando at least has enough character to generate new showroom traffic. current hhr is heavily fleeted and commercial which helps bloat its sales numbers. that, and people come in shopping cobalts and get moved into HHR's rightfully so because of the space. if the hhr was taller, wider, had a much shorter hood, and if the body panels didnt eat up the space so much, then it would survive a next gen i think. maybe the groove is a good starting point. there is no law that the HHR HAS to look like a 49 suburban in its next go round.

HHR was getting no love at the auto show tonight. Mazda5 was at least getting looks. HHR doesn't have appeal as a family hauler, where the Orlando would. Still, the orlando would be a semi nichey product. the aztek / judge dredd rear end design probably would kill any female appeal for that vehicle though. GM needs to stop making little detail f@#kups like that. that and cheap plastic. HHR is past its prime, and is probably not much time of relevance left. if you compare it to the cube, element, soul, xb, it kind of lacks utility.

800k, lol

christ. its not like i am having the whole thing myself. there's gonna be like 20 people feasting off the bacon goodness FCS. Alcohol is not healthy either ya know, in large quantity.

alright. i've got the ingredients to make the bacon explosion this weekend. also, got me the ingredients to make a couple of dips with the baconnaise. one is a bacon flavor / crab dip. the other is a bacon sour cream cheddar. dodge fan, how much of the spice rub did you use on your meat?

note the windows in front of the a pillar. similar to next gen astra.

why we can't simply have a grand am and grand prix and a solstice for pontiac? the grand am and solstice sould be on alpha. grand prix could just be on zeta. they will continue to make zeta for a long time i think. g6 sedan and coupe. g8 sedan and wagon. solstice targa and regular. then put camaro on alpha.

the only time americans buy small cars and make profit for the manufacturer is when gas is down. otherwise, people equate small to cheap. VW now apparently is doing what everyone blames US manuf of doing, cheapening the small cars for the US market. Can you blame them? Remember, VW wants to be the world volume leader. What i don't get. Why don't they just offer a Rabbit / Jetta with a decent aluminum 2.0 four cylinder here. that gets good mpg. the rabbit is already fairly cheap. VW seems to want to put the polo on kia's level. basically, VW is saying their nice new polo is too spendy to make for the US market. Heard that before?

tried the bacon salt OMG it is GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!

either way it won't drink fuel like that rdx......

A base LS with a couple props for 23595 was my first one or an LT for 27,435. either would make me giddy.

the v6 manual drinks gas in town. 17? seriously, the weight of the car must be making the engine work its ass off to get moving, but then the top gear must be geared for really low rpm. in any case, if it averages to 20 combined, that would be fine for me. 300hp and 20 mpg? nice. those mpg figures should pass on to the 2010 g8 as well.

by the way, don't discount the notion that this could simply be a marketing tactic and that the discounts won't be any better than any other time in recent history.

the odyssey is one of the biggest pieces of crap out there, at least that is the way i felt after i drove one, both of them. the accord in particular is highly overrated also. i drove one again last spring and am like, 'this thing is not that good of a car'. as a matter of fact, hondas in general are extremely overrated.

what's wrong with price cuts? THe MSRP's are clearly too high at GM compared to the competition and what the metal will move for. Volume is important to regain share and get people to buy and into cars. Listen if the market was for high transaction prices right now, i would be skeptical about this but the next couple years price will be king and seriously Hyundai and Kia are making an effort for an all out price war to take over because they can. Soft sales of new and record used car sales (because they are cheaper) will mean new prices have to come down to move any metal and get the factories and dealerships going again. GM needs to cut pricing across the board long term. The car will only move at the price the consumer will pay. And LEASING NEEDS TO COME BACK. cutting prices will help with more realistic residuals. One thing the geniuses need to get. Leasing was like 30-40% of the car business. When that went away, how much do you suppose business dropped immediately? You want to sell vehicles, you must get leasing back on the table.

http://www.baconsalt.com/ MUST TRY!!!!!

baconnaise!!!!

we are having some fam over this weekend. maybe i should whip one up and see the reaction? you think some melted cheddar inside it would be good?

awesome! was it as good as the picture?