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'ssangyong' looks like 'saturn' if you squint your eyes enough.

i must say, that is cool. especially since its massachutsetts too....LOL

one rumor at one time was kappas went to the same plant as corvette. and chevy became the kappa. and the chevy kappa might be a 'sting ray'

if it meant pontiac continued on, then sure. maybe they would be better without GM.

i only see blue hairs driving enclaves. i do see the younger set driving outlooks, acadias, and traverses. i don't see the lacrosse bringing the age down much, the design is not something anyone under 30 will touch because of price and size...... but the regal has a chance to, ONLY if the car is basically an untouched Insignia and is as cheap as say, a mazda6. the problem with chevy now is at least on the cheaper products, they styling is not very sporty. the cruze is no mazda3, the malibu is no altima or mazda6. pontiac at least was an outlet for those who didn't want a toyota. there really is no reason why pontiac could not have continued. even with 2 models. but it would have required a new g6 which GM simply had no intention of paying for. chevy cannot ride 'sporty' on camaro alone. especially with no cruze SS. its criminal for GM not to stuff the ecotec turbo in the cruze. i still think the g8 will morph into impala or an all new camaroesque rwd impala is on the horizon for oshawa. the cops want it, and for that reason alone i think will bring enough business case to get it built in NA and help amortize the money michigan spent hosing the zeta.

buick does not make sense then either, only because they chose to keep it around to try. the only saving grace buick had was higher transaction prices than pontiac, but they certainly did not have higher volume or an actual living demographic.

LMAO.....

i am still skeptical on the buick astra. it makes me shiver, but my money is on a reskinned cruze. time will tell.

the more and more i think about this, the whole killing of pontiac really has to do with strengthening chevy more than anything, if looked at this way. the g8 could become the Impala. camaro will thrive unchallenged in GM land. and, chevy can cheapen their volume models (cruze, malibu) to compete with hyundai kia etc. it leaves a void that can be better filled by buick. a- buick can sell for higher prices than pontiac and further spaced from chevy. b- this middle segment is larger when served by cushy floaters than 'sporty' cars. still, i find it hard that they couldn't even support a g8 and solstice for a couple years and just wait out the market to rebound. the niche brand thing could have worked if 2 of the models sold 40k a year or so. honestly i think what killed pontiac was that GM put all their eggs for epsilon into the malibu and could not find the dough for a suitable g6 repalcement. inability to justify the program (i.e. their volume car) is what killed the brand. an alpha g6 and a zeta g8 with a first class compact (g4) and the solstice and maybe a coupe could have had legs in a better economy and product dollars to boot. lets also not forget. cheap rwd performance threatens sales from cadillac. and people seem obsessed with cadillac being rwd. so in the end, pontiac really maybe was a threat to both chevy and cadillac and considering the bleeding, they probably did what they felt was needed. It will take a few years to show the fatality of it though. I just can't see chevy flourishing with such an imcomplete portfolio against all the asian cars flooding the market now. oddly enough, i think the equinox will be a telling product release as to whether people embrace new chevys. 5 mpg more and more value and function and performance that the crappy crv but i am quite sure even the most open minded soccer moms will still blacklist it enmasse.

in which at that point penske will sell the chain to the chinese companies in waiting that have used the 3-5 years of holdership to further hone their carmaking skills. i have a feeling whether saturn the brand tanks or not, his investment will make out ok.

yuk. the easiest way for penske to make money on his purchase is called 'insignia' and 'astra', made in canada. i'll assume roger will actually drive these cars himself before oking them for production.

ah, but what will they sell to the fleets?

unless they bring in the astra from magna now, or the megane from renault, saturn will not have what they most need, a small car. i would also suggest roger look at returning saturn to better pricing structures. i wonder how saturn plans to achieve styling and performance consistency with its models being sourced from all over the place.

talk to any salesman at a BPG dealer right now and he will say yes too. and you can get the answer right away.

i had three new camaro spottings yesterday. including one coming at me head on. the low roof is even more dramatic and stylish when the car is coming right at you. the look is to die for and very menacing. the styling is amazing on that car. even after decades of all the stylish GM metal, i think even GM outdid itself this time on the new camaro. i love the 04 GTO quite a bit from styling, but it just isn't even in the same class as the new camaro as far as jaw dropping looks. i would love to see a new rwd impala as bold as this camaro. unfortunately the board will be forced to give us some plug in appliance like version of it.

i've always liked that version of impala interior. simple, sporty.

picked up a 2010 lacrosse brochure yesterday. i think the lax will help buick immensely as will the srx cadillac. still, it really hurts it all when the g8 is going away. that car alone with the vibe is sustaining pontiac right now. and the vibe is barf.

needs a riviera. if recent rumors are true that caddy is going to cut the number of dealers big time, then buick indeed will need a big lineup like this. don't forget the skylark whether it be an astra or cruze.

a very sincere HB to you. have a great one. you 40 now, like myself? 40 is the new 30 and the 20 something ladies don't mind actually.

and again my guess is she's never bought a new car at all, likely doesn't even make car payments, possibly may not even have a full time job and other bills. and is simply going on whatever is fashionable to say.

rural folk tend to farm and have trucks. they need the truck to do their work. he is asking them to give up their truck and ride a bus. rural folk tend to have firearms. rural folk tend to be self supporting and independent and do not like things like buses. i am certain if michael moore went to a rural farm house and told the people to give up their truck and ride a bus, he would likely get shot.

saab does ok here too. imo, saab should have dropped the msrp's off the 9-3 across the board to be roughly a little below an acura but above vw. instead of trying to compete with bmw. a real honest 9-2, not a subaru, if designed and priced properly, could have blown the doors off some vw offerings in this country if marketed and sold correctly.

true.

i could literally post 100 photos, and still not be done.

functionally the size of the new accord is welcome, i think what spoils it and makes it seem boatish is the interior design. a sprawling dash makes it seem wider than it is. for a large car, the accord does handle ok. funny, my 06 ford 500 rode stiffer than the new accord. the new accord handles better than most midsizers, but overall i can vouch that i like the 010 fusion much more than the accord and that is saying a lot since in the past i have disliked the fusion. my test drive revealed that ford make huge advancements in the 010 fusion. subaru really screwed the pooch on the 010 legacy redo. it's amazing how seemingly tough it is for many of these car companies to make a decent looking family sedan........ i think a lover of the previous gen accord may likely like the new mazda6 better than the current accord. accord and camry are losing buyers to the sonata left and right. sonatas cheaper price, better warranty, equal reliability and new nice interior are stealing buyers. as are fusion and malibu. honda should be worried. civic and accord are two of their staples and they are quickly being eroded. not even the success of the fit can make up for it if this keeps up. acura is even more confused. the tsx and tl are the same size? WTF? the TSX is the car that is sprawling too much now. talk about bloated.