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I like the revised c pillar and the trunk length is a bit long on the chop, but it does make me think a trunk length inbetween the two would look good.

I like both the older and newer version of the regals. The older one is what I may look at for a college car for my daughter. Although a newer sportback may be better for hauling cargo to the dorm. Simply put they are not selling new and that is because GM is clueless and also by design. The residuals are terrible and there is no lease support. So many are still sitting on lots and now ending up as GM company cars. And then they hit the used market with low miles on them. But they won’t make them competitive from a retail standpoint. Example, you can take a terrain, Acadia, envision and GM will support those with lease incentives and the residuals are better enough such that the tourx can’t compete within its own showroom. A terrain envision etc with same msrp as tourx will be 200-300 more a month (or more) in a lease quote. The other problem is option packaging Buick sent a bunch of ‘preferred’ tourx here (cloth) and so those prices are lower but you can’t get heated seats dual zone climate and wheel on preferred tourx for a vehicle that is meant to be attractive to buyers in winter climates. (In contrast the base base envision has heated seats ). Plus. Blind spot , cross path, safety features are often not found on the models that got sent here. Moonroof is tough to find also which is a huge draw for this vehicle. On the essence trims they have so many separate packages you may find one with say, a moonroof but then it doesn’t have the safety packages Real dumb stuff tourx is a car that ashould have practically all the safety stuff on most models that hit the showroom My bet is GM was contracted to sell these and now doesn’t want to so they have no incentive to make them a success in the market sportback was supposed to replace the verano as Buick’s entry car and tell me when you way overprice the sportback how do pick up those verano sales when you are 10 grand or more higher across the board

I do understand that. The pre 2018 regals maybe felt a bit nicer. But they did not have as good of rear seat space and the h point for the seat was higher like in the fusion.

Very legit critique there

Saw a new Mercedes a class in the wild today. It’s a nice rig. And yet small. Ct4 May have a tough time as any sort of credible competition

Go drive one! In essence trim with leather the plastics look fine. Subaru’s are Subaru’s and imo this is a level above

Ah, just take me now

Wow! Some great write ups! Have to go back and re read some again. ! on that 2019 Silverado. I know the 5.3/6 speed gets maligned a lot. I’d be curious to see what you think of the new 4 cylinder if you ever get a chance to drive it. I thought it was not bad I just dun got back from driving a ct6 again (for my mom this time). I like your perspective on the XTS it makes me think I should take one for a spin. I’ve never driven an XTS yet. Yes it’s GM stupid that it would have power folding mirrors but not blind spot detection. That is classic GM!

As I hinted at above I think stinger gets talked about more these days. Tlx is fair comparison. Cadillac has to frame the CT5 as a ‘desirable sedan option’ and give up trying position itself in ads as some competitor for just about anything. They need to keep prices low on units that show up on lots and put nice lease offers on the table. Get some good press on the base model although that will be hard to do with the motor specs being barely adequate. The v6 will be an awesome performer but they will price any v6 into the stratosphere; so they won’t sell enough. That’s what GM does. If they seriously can get the power and toque numbers of the 4 up closer to 300 than 250 they could make waves in the market even with the less attractive shell and near useless trunk because it should still drive well. There is something bad about how this vehicle platform is for packaging. Gm cant get comfortable package with hardly any vehicles on this platform so that’s why on the CT5 they invested so much in the weird shape to get the backseat and headroom better. Too much room in the hood makes it tough to package the rest of the car.

LOST IN TRANSLATION, NOT A LOT OF ESCALA ON THAT CT5

far too much length in the hood, wasted, that could be returned to trunk overhang. RWD chassis does not have to mean the cabin is so far rearward that there is no trunk. CT5 has increased WB that was returned entirely to rear seat leg room, which is good. So the end equation is remove some length between the front axle and firewall and tack it on to the rear overhang. And then put a hatch on it. BS from Cadillac on that.

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2020-cadillac-ct5-design-engineering-info/

Now you know why there is no trunk! Look at the size of that hood! the gray luxury one looks like an accord a little bit c pillar still sucks these were fresh off caddy’s web site

poor coordination getting in and out of cars LOL. 2 Diamantes, almost lost an ear on each one. Also I had my 77 Buick Cetury coupe.

Jack these babies up a few inches and NOW you're really talking Buick Crossover Coupe

Jack these babies up a few inches and NOW you're really talking Buick Crossover Coupe

Coming soon to the crossover bazaar Buick Entropy Buick Enthalpy Buick Entrail Buick Enterprise (Starship Edition!) Buick Envention (See what i did there?)

ORLY? so some BMW douche upped for the full package..including rustproofing?

DRIVEN: 2018 Buick Enclave Essence AWD original MSRP about 49,000 HIGHS: -Stylish, understated looks, particularly for a rather large CUV. -Room and space, OMG what so many are looking for. And it has it a plenty. Simply put, leg room, hips and shoulders, head room. Easy to ingress and egress; just perfect for that! This is why people buy these kind of vehicles. OH I LOVE THE GIRTH. So comfortable is this vehicle. Nice driving position, for a CUV. -A very interesting interior design, consistent with recent Buick theming, with all the swooping and flowing curves and trim.....but probably best executed overall in this vehicle. The interior on this rig was 'dark galvanized', but if I were shopping hard on the Enclave, I would go for the tan / brown interior. Either way, a nice mix of softer touch and textured materials. A lot of nice touch points all over, the armrests, dash, doors. Nice layout and gauges / climate control. -Optional sunroofs were on this vehicle, and its just another nice feature that really makes the cabin grand. -Good trunk space, seats up or folded. The back cargo cover behind the third row flips up and sits in its detent to make the cargo floor a little deeper. Great for those Costco runs when you might run into the evil Mitt, and you share a conversation about how much toilet paper you can buy in one trip. -GM's 3.6 v6 powertrain has always been a complete Jekyll and Hyde performance to me on all the different vehicles I have driven with it in the last 2-3 years. In a recent 2017 Cadillac XT5 test drive, I found the powertrain to less satisfying than i thought it ought to be. Also, same with a Regal GS and LaCrosse. I must say however, the powertrain is spot on in the Enclave. Smooth, responsive, the transmission shifts wonderfully. And a nice, throaty (and not coarse at all) sound. The AWD system did not bring added heft or friction to the drive of the vehicle. I must say, GM engineered the Traverse and Enclave very well. I will say the v6 is still a bit shy of smoothness and noise vs. the Pentastar v6 in my Pacifica, but the difference is so minute, not really worth mentioning much. -Rather shocked....i really liked the quick direct steering and handling. Don't get me wrong, this is not a sedan or sporting vehicle. But it felt nimbler than something like this should. Again, not as carlike as my Pacifica....but not far off. And the suspension was not a rollover. This vehicle had the 18" wheels too. Well tuned vehicle dynamically. -Simply put, this is a classic Buick wagon for today's age. This is the perfect vehicle to eat thousands and thousands of miles. LOWS: -While the interior is quite good overall, there is actually plenty of spots where typical GM cheapness is evident. Seat leather could be higher grade and no so much looking like fine vinyl. Lots of plastic aft of the front row looks quite cheap in places you don't touch a lot but still do see, especially in the trunk. Even the lowers of the dash and doors, if they had nicer plastics it would really complement what is done so well on the other parts of the dash. We all know GM really hates to do a full knock it out of the park interior. -Well, ok, you want this vehicle for the room and space, and how big it is. But i will say, it's size can also be too much. It's of course your choice, and GM has the bases covered with smaller offerings like the Acadia and the soon to be XT6. The large size, and even with plenty of windows to see out of.... others in traffic can get hidden pretty easy in your blind spots and you had better spend time adjusting your mirrors. You just may not be seeing all you wish to see around and behind you in this large, high riding chariot. And it may be just large enough to challenge for space in your garage. -Latch for the sunroof cover up front is a bit testy to use and seems like down the road...will probably break. -not much else, as usual with GM, I assume pricing on leasing or buying a GM vehicle at any given day in the space time continuum can have a wildly varying influence on whether the Enclave is a good value in the market or not. With the eye popping crazy prices of well equipped CUV's in general these days, I tend to think the Enclave fits into a nice pocket...'near premium' perhaps.... where it is a better buy than the more prestigious marques. -At the end of the day, Buick still has an old person rep. This vehicle doesn't change it, it maybe continues to help that rep along. And the interior as nice as it is, can be perceived as dull, or 'old styled' in comparison to some of the crazy overdone CUV interiors out there nowadays. But hey, older buyers who like restraint and less crazy designs buy cars too? No shame in making elegant less flashy vehicles for those folks....even if others think its dull and for old people. SUMMARY: The vehicle will deliver as intended, you will get what you are seeking, and it's not far outside the realm of value. Along with the Traverse, one of GM's best executed vehicles. It's good that GM didn't fuck up this segment of vehicles because I am sure this is where GM makes a lot of profits from. If you want one, be sure to understand for yourself whether you really want a vehicle quite this big. A solid "A" for this thing. I sure hope the XT6 is somehow an amazing vehicle because I am not sure why you would spend the extra money on the XT6 over the Enclave.

I saw a new red one this evening at a local restaurant. Hadn't seen one in the flesh in that color till now. It was quite striking and actually made the vehicle look pretty good. I do think the small engine as the only choice was a mistake for Mitsubishi here.

Car shopping. Rust already on drain holes at door of a 2016 bmw 3 series

Chrysler could and should have a 300 replacement sedan on the pacifica platform. If they priced it right, it would sell. Not in huge numbers but it would be a white space niche. Chrysler could have a large 3 row crossover, it may take some pacifica sales but they would add more brand sales overall than they would lose having that 'aspen' or whatver in the showroom, and that is a product that is hot and Jeep doesn't have. Again, use the Pacifica platform. Chrysler could have a smaller or midsize crossover for those who don't like Jeeps. A buick Lincoln sort of thing. It would sell also. Another segment Chrysler could invade is a competitor to Subaru outback. Jeep wont make a wagon and that would in effect be a defacto sedan replacement.

there are cars available under 20 grand new. The Cruze was one of them. But to get further into your point, no one that age will have cash on hand to buy so it comes down to financing. And if credit arms could make auto loans and believe that the buyers would reliably pay them back, then you would have more available credit. I had a young coworker a few years ago that ended up buying a new Nissan Versa as his first car rather than a used car. Nissan had a good first time buyer credit program and the Versa was the right car. And the guy probably saved a lot of money with a new car under warranty and cheap gas compared to buying a used car he's have to stick a few grand into right away. Point is, he had a job (he was making 13 bucks an hour) and was still able to make that 230-250 payment. There does need to be more cars you can get into for that 300 bucks or so a month and so manufacturers do need to get more cars like that to market. But that i think is where Hyundai / Kia is successful. At the end of the day, the banks won't give credit to high risk buyers. So a young buyer has to learn to figure out how to get credit and not ruin it. It's called adulting. THere are still quite a few cheap cars available on the market. Also, lots of 2-3 year old CPO's. Current body style Cruzes are selling DIRT CHEAP as Cpo's on the market right now. those would be good cars for that 250-300 a month first time buyer. People rip the Cruze but the latest Cruze is a DAMN NICE CAR for anyone looking for a small cheap car, especially a first time buyer. If you grew up with Chevettes you will understand how nice the Cruzes are by comparison. https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=512602314&zip=55379&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D55379%26listingTypes%3DUSED%26maxMileage%3D30000%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DCRUZE%26makeCodeList%3DCHEV%26searchRadius%3D100&listingTypes=USED&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=CRUZE&makeCodeList=CHEV&searchRadius=100&makeCode1=CHEV&modelCode1=CRUZE&clickType=listing https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=503332117&zip=55379&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D55379%26listingTypes%3DUSED%26maxMileage%3D30000%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DCRUZE%26makeCodeList%3DCHEV%26searchRadius%3D100&listingTypes=USED&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=CRUZE&makeCodeList=CHEV&searchRadius=100&makeCode1=CHEV&modelCode1=CRUZE&clickType=listing https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=506614089&zip=55379&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D55379%26listingTypes%3DUSED%26maxMileage%3D30000%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DCRUZE%26makeCodeList%3DCHEV%26searchRadius%3D100&listingTypes=USED&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=CRUZE&makeCodeList=CHEV&searchRadius=100&makeCode1=CHEV&modelCode1=CRUZE&clickType=listing https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=513200902&zip=55379&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D55379%26listingTypes%3DUSED%26maxMileage%3D30000%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DCRUZE%26makeCodeList%3DCHEV%26searchRadius%3D100&listingTypes=USED&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=CRUZE&makeCodeList=CHEV&searchRadius=100&makeCode1=CHEV&modelCode1=CRUZE&clickType=listing Civics, Fits, Sentras, Versas are other phenomenal choices for young buyers. Automakers are shy about leasing to young buyers because they are afraid they will trash the cars.

sat in challenger when i was getting oil chaged on the van last weekend. The challenger is a usable car. People can sit in the back, you can see in and out of the car, and it has a decent trunk. Plus, the challenger is AWD available, which helps too. In short, the recipe for fixing the camaro to help SALES, is make it usable for people and add AWD on the options list. at least for the v6.

Yes you would have to get two. Lol