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not sure what you saw at your autoshow. i worked 20 hrs at ours here and there were no requests for coupes, rear wheel drive, v8's. everyone here at least wants in this order. all wheel drive. fuel economy (like way better than 30 mpg) 20k price. makes me think the Granite is DOA unless they work an AWD into the mix.

oh yes, absolutely.

and then.......

not liking the dash. the shifter is well, .......erotic in some way to some. perhaps. cough. that interior is not the least cohesive or appealing and really can't they just design a tasteful decent interior and give it nice materials?

yu should become a private investigator. imagine the cheating scandals you could uncover! in the meantime, the world loves your shutter. are we sure this is the ATS though? maybe a next gen CTS? all Caddies are kinda getting the same look.....seriously

sarcasm, satchel. regal would be on my list. extremely high, even if its not quick. Regal has one of the best interiors of any car out there. Like the LaCrosse, too. Maybe the v6 wins? i do like the Kizashi enough to have it on the list. Despite the homerism When you consider the camrys of the world, to me its something i could drive as a bread and butter car every day and enjoy it. I won't proclaim the SX4 as 'best' or the Grand Vitara but I do like em. The GV is a bit trucky as its designed and it's still carlike enough and just a decent basic vehicle....needs a 6 speed auto in the worst way. SX4 is cheeky and steers quick / nicely and I like the CVT/paddles + 150hp. my vehicle tastes are evolving. not much in the gotta have dept. I like even the current Malibu, but would only spring for it if the deal were good.. like the cruze....but only the eco, and really don't like the tight interior. A ford Flex ecoboost titanium really has my interest lately. Taurus is prob too big so why not just get the Taurus crossover? MKs is nice. Already tired of the new Explorer! Like the simplicity of the Outlander Sport.....it needs more ponies. CTS coupe is HOT but you can't see out of it. Sort of defeats your ability to drive without incident. The CTS wagon to me is both hot and practical. Like both the SRX and 9-4x, but not sure I would include them on the list. Same for the 9-5 and Volvo S60. If the C30 had a decent dashboard it may be on my list. New Escort looked bland to me in person. I think that may be off the list. eek, meant Focus. Mini Countryman intrigued me. All BMW and Mercedes are repellent to me lately. Audis are boring. VW's are headed down a bad path. Some Hyundais and Kias are ok, but not compelling. I could manage an Optima in a pinch. KTM X-bow? Lotus Evora? Ferarri California? Boxster or Cayman? A simple base Corvette would do it for me certainly. It seems like as the mfrs put out more models, the less impressed I am with all the choices. Too many to pick from perhaps. The new Jaguars really have the best presentation of all the luxury cars IMO. Absolutely fantastic. Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, not much to stir any interest here. Chrysler's improved interiors really have me liking the 200 now, the vans, the Journey is nice now too but I wouldn't shop for one the crossover competition is too good. the 200's interior changes, v6, and price make it an interesting 'fallback' sleeper sort of car. Regal and Flex might be the only 2 vehicles right now I would instantly be drawn to. And even then the Regal's lack of juice for the price might put me off a bit. Probably means a Flex Titanium ecoboost is my first choice by a sliver, at least today.

the long overhangs will look dorky and dated, hopefully the rest can cover that up so it doesn't look stupid. current bu has nice side proportions but is not wide enough. so then they shrink the wheelbase to an already space challenged design. or, they may do something like make a spacious cabin and trunk, but it will have a crappy interior and huge overhangs. if this car has a crappy interior its not going to matter one bit what they do with the rest of it. interiors mean so much in the market these days. it certainly won't look athletic or graceful apparently.

Before I saw that bar graph, i was going to suggest that half the time regardless people defect to another brand. So it turns out that industry average is 48%. So GM only did 5% better than industry average, which is not statistically significant to most folks... So really there is no achievament here. Likewise, there is no epic failure. So in the end it reverts to whether GM is selling more, making more dough, and having it cost them less to do so. Pontiac used to advertise the 'first G6' or something like that. I don't think anyone was really waiting with baited breath for the second one. Take a look at Saturn. I doubt 50% of the people out there remember Saturn anymore. Mercury? LMAO!!!!!

SX4 sedan SX4 sporthatch SX4 crossover Kizashi sedan Grand Vitara Limited 4WD Equator

it's an is what it is kind of thing. having the equator is probably a nice addition as there are very few mid size trucks. i think really what would benefit this brand the most right now would be a Kiz based crossover added to the lineup, and a new generation of the SX4 that loses the funky front glass. I think if they brought the Swift over it would help too. The Grand Vitara is actually a nice rig......true 4wd system....it could use new styling and an updated powertrain. That might be just enough to kickstart the brand again. I wonder how that VW / Suz tie is going to work. It does not seem as though they would be compatible bed partners. Now a Kizashi with a Chrysler badge on the hood is not an unusual notion....to me at least. I would think leasing these things out would be the best way to jump start the brand again.

truth is it has to survive on mostly used sales. essentially the franch has an older facility that prob was underutilized selling used only.....i am sure they need to hang on to the facility and just find a way to generate some income off of it. so its not so much believing in product as its 5 min. from my house although the products are good. ultimately, its a trial thing for me, and if it carries me a month or two till things come back around after waiting too long already.....well, its a day to day thing.

Hm, a couple of months, and it's down to $16,500: http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item33658cd162 lost value? well son, you can prob buy a new malibu for that these days..........and its worth like what, 12 after a year? if chrysler were smart they would dump the avenger twins and throw their badges on this car.

satty did you spank your woman yet or is her tush large enough so she can't feel it........love those midwestern gurlz

who gets the last laugh! one buyer drove off with a new AWD Kiz for 20 and change the other night. he came back to buy roof racks two days later.........roof rack is built in! would that get you into a FWD Cruze? Dude shopping BMW's was like......'i am not interested in spending 15k extra'.......... new times folks don't want to blow cash on carz not sure how a 20k cruze can be justified......

because VW's are bulletproof........ spank your woman if she can't drive a clutch.....mine can.....but she's a farm girl...........she knows how to ride a stick........sorry about your loss

um, she has never looked HOTTER.

suz.......been in biz since early 1900's..........MINI has been in US since when? second clutch? are they building crap (rhetorical question)? would be nice to nice have that covered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SX4 has more go juice than that slightly effeminate MINI (yeah, just what are you anyways)!!!!!!!!!!! who wears the pants!!!!!!!!! did that VW break down yet? how is that 4.30 diesel treatin ya!!!!!!!!! bet ya'd like a warranty!

and minis with their 'bulletproof' cvt's......... SOMETHING GREAT IS COMING Satty would be great in the fire protection business because he he is nothing but a wet blanket........ you, sir = badge snob. badge snobs get ripped off!!!!!!!!!!!

"kiss" enjoy your mini, sucka ! let me know when you need to bust that mini out of a mud bog........assuming it holds up that long...... satty the optimist. that Kizashi is a far better use of your money than some mini sort of thing at a minimum......21k for euro tuned ride, AWD, dual temp, sport seats, is a far better buy than say.......CHEVY CRUZE (ducks)

although its like saying which STD is less crappy to have. To be fair the Kizashi is a pretty good car....but that's really it. The SX4 has AWD but its outclassed by most of its rivals. The Grand Vitara...do they even sell those anymore? Then there's that Frontier rebadge. Do they have anything else? But hey, congrats on the job, hope it works for you. thanks. believe me, I understand the skepticism. But for example,,,,,the one guy I had today who had been looking at CRV........If i can put him in a GV with hard duty 4wd, nav with Garmin features, leather, sunroof, and ladder frame SUV for almost 23k with 100k powertrain.....at 0%..........why does he choose Honda? Drew of course knows how awesome a CRV is.....

The Equator is a nice mid size truck option. Please note that there are few mid size trucks left. the SX4 is the lowest priced AWD car in the the US. The niche it serves.......affordable AWD with good mpg. Sporty handling and drive for the price. 7/100k powertrain with no deductible and fully transferrable. So far, what I have seen is that a lot of boomers and such are looking for precisely that as a second car. The other neat thing about the SX4 is the 3 mode all wheel drive, to be able to lock it front to rear for tough situations. But really the kizashi is what I am excited about. We have a Kizashi S on our lot (several actually) with dual temp control and all wheel drive and keyless start for 21k with rebates. I had a very established older gentleman on a test drive the other night with one and he had been looking at the Legacy as well as a BMW and such and he enjoyed his drive a lot. He was very satisfied with how tight the car was with the price savings over the luxury marques he was used to driving. I think with the big no deductible transferrable powerrtrain warranty and some auto show cash I convince him not to get that Legacy....... Side note. The Grand Vitara doesn't get much press but we have a GV with full time 4 mode hard dutyAWD in limited trim with leather sunroof, etc. for almost 23k. I had one guy looking at CRv's in the showroom this afternoon and I was explaining to him that the GV even though it is less expensive has all sort of advantages over the CRV for less money for certain folks. 23 and chance for leather, sunroof, and off road 4wd? With 100l powtrain coverage? At least for now I am riding the wave. I know the product isn't for everyone. But the potential is there is sneak up on some folks that are not badge snobs.....and really give them a good solid vehicle with lots of value at a price that is not.......40k. darn tempted to maybe wrangle one of those kizashis's myself.....

lol......crappy subarus? actually yes we are right next to the suburus........if you really want to slum with that group...... there are 2 suzuki dealers here.....I am working weekends........i will prove why the subarus are the wrong choice........

recession. job loss. industry not recovering. new profession. sell cars. been employed selling cars for a week now. Suzuki dealer. Will be a tough road, but let me tell you, the Kizashi is the real deal, the SX4 has a definite niche. Hoping this pans out, at least for while. Any of you in this neck of the woods coming to the auto show let me know. Will be working the Suzuki stage! Cruze, etc. has nothing on this. AWD / dual auto climate control / keyless start / euro inspired suspension.....21k OTD.............. "something great is coming"...........need i mention 7 years! 100k! POWERTRAIN warrranty......no deductible.............transferrable............ seriously, if you can get out in a Kizashi....the value is insane..............

http://www.thesuperficial.com/courteney-coxs-in-a-bikini-again-03-2011 his loss. OMG how do you pass on this at 40+

Very nice. LIKEY!