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lets get some real world mpg....

manufacturing defects apparently, which possibly have been corrected...... still.........

f@#k the statistics go try to wedge yourself into the back seat of one. the cruze and new malibu both have deficient back seats.

according to a person at one C/J shop, at least a half a dozen recently....... google 'chrysler pentastar 3.6 issues' or something like that...... more than a few threads to read...... i would probably guess they had some initial quality launch items they are working through.

Am I speaking to the ever-elusive Sheridan Bucket? Are you finally home from University? i had to look that up to figure out exactly what you were smoking.......lol

both are very cool

me 3.....

still fail to see the big to do over the Infiniti G........

short spin.... handles really sweet. 7 speed auto, fairly responsive....still not a manual though. all in all, not really detracting from the drive much. the gimmicky nature of the shift lever is distracting though. Paddles make up for it. Size of the car is nice for anyone who doesn't carry people. Seats were comfy. Interior simple, and tasteful. I'd go for a couple inches wider and some more rear leg room. Interior not plush but in the front enough room to be sorta comfy in the excellent seats. Love the visibility out of the car. Partially this is due to the 2 door nature and lack of obtrusive pillars aplenty. Have to admit though.....the car did not feel bank vault. I would imagine the car does not lose much as a convertible in terms of strength. Pretty fun car.......... I'da liked to have seen more power but that is the what the M is for. On a pass / fail grade I give it a pass......

I am appalled they would not sell it here. It would sell huge.

2.5 will do a lot for the car. turbo four will. i suspect e ASSISt on the Malibu will be like 5% of the volume. The biggest problem the Malibu has is it has no backseat.....i.e. they did not fix the problems from before...they made it worse.

Not off to a good start.......... Apparently the new pentastar is not a trouble free motor......... been trying to read up on it. boss man bought a T/C off auc had about 20m on it, engine needs major work. according to a source at a C/J dealer, a lot of the new 3.6 have had expensive issues. sure hope chrysler can nip this in the bud......

in theory the two have the same backseat but the regal seems to have more leg room and footspace..... GM can't build a front seat that preserves toe room for the rear to save their lives

if you can compare the malibu vs. the regal if you have driven one.....

yeah baby

77 cutlass 2 door, the fantasy of pretty much anyone i grew with back in the day. love it.

my own checking and many other places i see many gripes on rear seat foot and leg room.....please weigh in....

it will be nice if the ATS is good, to have a real 3 series option so you don't have to get a trendy urban douchemobile........you can buy AMURCHAN

cute! not worth 4 grand IMO though!

we've got a 95 MB on our lot right now and the leatherette looks like it's only a couple years new. Leatherette can hold up quite nicely. I was kinda hoping the base base ATS would be closer to 30 than 35, but I certainly have no issues with them asking for the same price as others. At 34 though I think I'd rather see the turbo as a base mill. End of model year that base base car will have room for huge rebates when those are the only ones left on the lot. All wheel drive turbo really should get the stick too. Actually a base base with a stick would be fine for some but the turbo is not much more than the 2.5. I think it's interesting how stoic the design of the ATS is in proportions, where the XTS is very pushing the proportions into a new paradigm. The ATS has the whole long hood, upright greenhouse...the XTS is almost monoform with no hood, no trunk and is super egglike. One thing i did notice at the auto show is how deceptively curvy the ATS actually is. It's lines seem more rigid at times, but from a distance you can see the curvature in its forms you don't pick up on when it's close and your eyes are drawn to all the bling. I do hope they bring a diesel. Add stick to the 4 pot turbo. And i would do a coupe. No wagon here.

oh, and to add, I am SOOOO glad I never bought a CObalt SS. No way it was worth 7k more. Yes the engine and dynamics were fantastic....but at the end of the day, it was still a cobalt......

there was a fantastic astra XR coupe w leather and about 20k miles at a dealer recently i was oogling. prob right now is if i buy, i should buy from my own shop + i would prob lose money and 2 years. another 4 door astra with panaramo roof and stick is out there from an affiliated sourced but has more miles. by this point in time, with 2013's and 2014's on the horizon, i would only backtrack to an 08 of anything unless it was a screaming deal. remember, the astras had no armrest, cupholder, bluetooth, or USB ......... but boy did they drive nice. I could not believe how nice the black leather interior of the verano was i sat in the other day. blown away. might be GM's best interior. Or close to it. where is the verano coupe!!!!! Verano could seriously be the car that busts the door open for Buick, it's unassuming at first but i think with the right tweaks and marketing could really define a new Buick moving ahead. Another local shop has a used 011 Regal Turbo stick with 1k miles i would love to own. Too bad I could in no way buy the car, too much dough for me.

I've always wanted an Astra......at the time i bought the Astras were gone. I actually once had a deal on a new Astra and then passed up on it due to layoff rumors at work at the time. I still look for used ones. If I found the right deal, i would trade it in a heartbeat.

2 year review 21,500 miles anyone want this car? highs - cheap, sprightly motor in some cases, mpg at 55 mph darn nice lows - cheap, steering not the best, engine booms, clutch and shifter not much good, mpg at higher mph not what you'd like, panel gaps, interior not great summary - would like to get rid of this vehicle by now but i am actually lucky to have it so ............ for what it is and what i paid it does the job but the cobalt in no way is aspirational.