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coupes won't sell. only reason to do a coupe is for image. how about 3 and 5 door veranos / astras, how about the adam, these cars are ready to go now.

should be a good base engine, as long as they keep it out of the cars, no sweat.

GM will lose sales if they make the Equinox smaller. The current size is actually fine, but I would carve out a little more trunk, maybe add some cabin width. Big problem is, lose 500 pounds and add more real world mpg. GM prices these things like they are bigger anyways. If GM chooses to make them smaller, they had better not be deficient to the RAV4 and CRv. Then they would get blasted for that. In most cases from what I have seen, the Edge and Equinox are pretty close on most pricing. I would so get an Edge instead of the Equinox. It also works in reverse. An Escape S FWD is way cheaper than an Equinox LS.

hyper is right. I saw it repeatedly selling. People want it that day. GM is probably shooting for about 5,000 cars to sell this way. 10k if they are lucky.

when i was selling, those first gen equinox'es were a tough used sell. They never felt real together after being used. You could never get much for them. Torrents, even less so. That said, they had great interior space utilization. I think GM is in a bind. People like the size of the current Nox and Terrain, but the market demands that they shed some weight. IMO they either have to stay the same size or get bigger and open up a new segment for a smaller CUV to join the market and sell at cheaper prices.

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essentially flat, looks like the Elantra was being incentivized

how can you not be impressed with Ford.......

i hate foresters but apparently others love them.

i think Ford and possibly Honda is cannibalizing VW

GM needs to move a lot of their vehicles to a new universal platform to replace all these thetas and epsilons. Regals, Malibus, and many other epsilons have had size issues in different dimensions, and weight issues. None of the Vues (cmon this is a fatter Vue) Captivas, Equinox, SRX have been light or optimally packaged. GM could likely move a dozen or more vehicles in a new properly sized and lighter platform in the future and this is one of them. In the meantime, they have made pretty well with what they have. A biturbo would be perfect for this. Hopefully the next SRX looks less squashed and more sleek, has more room, and is about 500 pounds lighter.

cx5 is doing nicely

no pumping galants to fleet hurts volume numbers

I had a jerk walk on a used 135i M pkg once. He was like 21 and his mom's alimony money was behind the car. They came in making like it was just to sign the paperwork and then she forced him to say they weren't going to buy the car unless we knocked another couple grand off. It was already down like 4k from our original asking price (which obviously was high) and we gave like a 1g tire allowance. The auction paid more for the car than the kid would IIRC, those types of cars are rare, when deals are out there, you sort of have to move on them, if the car in question is not a commodity car. Had a similar deal once on an SRT8. Funny thing was we let it sit all winter (snow state), had it marked 6g less than the start, had some nibblers, had one guy walk because he got another one with more miles for 300 less. Spring came around, relisted the car, and we jacked the price up. We were able to get about 2500 more because that dude walked. I think Dwight though you are one of those guys that educates yourself on the deeper market, a greater geographical area etc. But mostly it is as you say, if you are forthright in saying that the one car in question is not the ONLY car you are considering, when you make what is considered a lowball offer, it has cred because it suggests you will actually follow through if it is accepted. Back to the Vette, the base price is really good. The options are far too pricey. I too would probably consider the magnetic suspension. I don't think I would look at much else.

i wish caddy would trash that silly third brake light / trunk lid spoiler.......looks like crap in 2013.

I always wanted an Astra! congrats.

I'd bet chevy will keep the 1.4t in production now that they have made so many, the more they make, it just gets cheaper. But that 2.0 would be a nice motor and i think a 1.6t would probably be a better all around performer than the 1.4. Chevy needs a real Eco automatic. Somehow a tranny that can spread the ratios really wide (CVT?) and a super sipper motor would make a gas Eco automatic a real fuel miser.

I'd wait. Get the new. Better FE also.

the renderings and mules I have seen are boring, I know that is what BMW does, and I don't think the current CTS coupe look is right for the car either. But I would like to see the ATS coupe be something besides uber conservative.

double mpg, awesome.

base car is amazing, what options what y'all get?

got a ride in my friend's new cruze today. an import owner who went chevy. loves the car, got it for all the reasons the focus is not, loves the look. the cruze is unmistakable. it has definition. i think chevy needs to keep the current body in production as long as possible. a refresh of the front and some interior bits would be far better than bringing in this new genericar sooner.

the current cruze has loads of definition, it's not a melted blob like the elantra and newest forte. Looks like they are going to the melted blob look. I am sure its for that one extra mpg of highway rating. Part of the reason corolla sells is its a little more upright.

Ah, that makes sense, thanks for explaining. The SX4 is a big disappointment in the mpg category, which is a shame since it seems to have some pretty good reviews, and seems like a neat little car. Of course, I don't know if it would make sense as a long-term purchase anyway since Suzuki left the US market, and they didn't exactly sell a ton of them. Looks like the Dart Aero with manual trans is, so it goes on the list. We'll see how the reliability shakes out in the next couple years. I like the looks & what I've heard about it so far, but where it's still brand spankin' new, and Chrysler doesn't have quite as consistent a record on reliability (and throw in the whole it's-essentially-a-Fiat thing) I can't help but feel a bit extra need for a cautious eye on the Dart until it proves itself. It also has a serious ding against it in that it requires premium, where some others like the Sonic and Cruze Eco don't. Same goes for the Fiat 500 - it gets 40mpg highway, but requires premium. The diesels require some similar comparison - what is the difference in fuel cost, and thus the real operating cost. However, diesels have more appeal to me since they tend to be hearty engines that last a long time, and seem to generally be easier to beat the ratings with. Plus there's just a cool factor with owning a diesel car. Just to chime in on the Suzukis since I sold them, the SX4 had really low epa ratings. the fwd ones exceeded epa, the AWD ones were tougher on gas. The CVT automatic SX4 the mpg would go down if you did more city driving and were hard on the throttle. Generally the everyday mpg's were consistent with other competitors. That being high twenties, and in the thirties highway if it was without much stopping. The 6 speed manual ones, made out nice with mpg but the top gear was turning more rpm at high cruising speeds than the CVT. Still, i had one guy tell me his sportback got 32-35 consistently in mixed driving. Suzuki's policy part of which did them in was to be really conservative on EPA testing numbers, to avoid Hyundai style litigation. One of the corporate people told us that. Where this matters, despite the pullout from the market, the vehicles will still be serviced and under warranty. If you can find a preowned at a much more substantial discount than something else you are looking at, it may not be a bad idea to save some dough. The vehicles themselves are as simple as it gets in 2013 era, and parts are available for worldwide distribution. Basically if it were a low investment proposition, it might be worth looking at. A sportback SX4 with the 6 speed manual is quite a sprite little basic hatch, and even for what it lacks in style points, it makes up in simplicity and lightness. The shifter is nice and it's got enough power. 4 wheel discs, stability control, etc. I've sort of been watching the used to prices to see if they will start to tank, and they have not yet. Everyone thought Saturn and Pontiac values would tank also. They did not. Personally I believe Suzuki will come back to US and Canada in a few years. I think they needed to clear the books and go into hiding. The US market is too big to ignore. I don't care if they say its to pursue other emerging global markets. The GM sale and VW ownership hurt them huge. One car that you ought to research, and I am not joking. I have wanted to check out a 2011 Saab 9-5 with stick, that is a car that plummeted in values. You could probably still find one under 20 grand and it would be a nice ride with good mpg, even if its not a 40 mpg car. FWIW, the older more base 9-3's (2004+) all get pretty good mpg.

isn't Dart 41 mpg highway?