trinacriabob

tart

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ears (as in "fallen on deaf ears")

I don't want to keep the thread going as a 2 person dialogue. However, you are so EFFIN' right. Whenever I am at work or at school, it's all about THE WORK and I prefer to work for men, given the choice, for this very reason. For most men, it's all business whereas women inject too many other variables in the equation (I've been "around the block" and I've seen it). They will unempower a male either by: (1) being the feminist bitch we've talked about earlier, or (2) mothering you. If you upset the balance in option (2), they will turn because that is the way the retain "power" and you've chosen to undo it. Never let it get there. When I get a woman subordinate or co-worker, I keep it ALL BUSINESS. I can handle women subordinates (and they've never complained about me yet), but I can't stand having a woman boss, though it's never happened since I've been in architecture, but it has happened in the business / corporate setting.

Why? one is the scientific term for the street term My response to thread: mute (the state of being, certainly not our anthony with lower case letters)

I was just at a dealership last weekend during the Thanksgiving holiday somewhere north of Seattle and south of the Canadian border. I explained I was in transit and was just looking. They were very nice and I helped myself to popcorn. The salesmen said new grilles are coming for the LaX for sure. They made no mention of portholes. There was a Lucerne and a LaX parked next to each other in a line-up at the curb. Gawd, we commented that the Lucerne has a FAR nicer grille. The salesman quipped that the front grille of the LaCrosse looks like that of a Ford Contour (what a slam!).

Totally understandable. How's your kid doing, BTW?

Have you ever lived in Richmond Hill? I have a childhood acquaintance who I met while my family was vacationing in Italy and then corresponded with for about a year who grew up in a second-tier Ontario city but now lives there. Is it nice? What are the demographics? I was just in "Van" over the American Thanksgiving holiday. I used to think it was paradise on earth and, from Seattle and Portland, was looking at what I could do to live/immigrate there. I am now pretty indifferent to it and find it kind of smug (the British influence, I presume). I also had the most pungent and inquisitive border-crossing into Canada EVER. If I had to live in Canada, it would be Montreal hands-down (the Quebecois have a helluva lot more of that quasi-obnoxious spirit I like, which is remarkable considering they have the $h!ty weather that makes people in places such as the Scandinavian and Baltic countries tend toward the morose).

I H-A-T-E you! :AH-HA_wink:

Yes and no. I don't notice too many "dykes" in architecture. I do notice quite a few unattractive women. Seriously, thinking about the enrolled women in architecture at U. of Ill., I was hard pressed to find more than 3 or 4 pretty ones (that didn't drop out by the 3rd year) in an enrollment of over 600. That's bad. And even the ones that are hetero but frump, well, what normal guy would want to date them anyway? Argggh. I do let my work speak for me. I'll run circles around any one of these man-hating women in our profession (at my experience level) easily. Not to brag, but I was told this business park with 6 buidings I did is one of the nicest to come out of the firm over the last 5 or so years (it's a tilt-up, actually). And the troublemaker I refer to, she is a wet-behind-the-ears intern with a UNLV sheepskin and is not at all talented.

What nationality is your girlfriend? (And, no, you don't look like a child molester. You should see my last D.L. pic, I look like a criminal, but that's because I had just gone through a 1/2 year family squabble right before I took it).

sphincter

petrified (somewhere in NM, I believe)

Hi, reg, say something! You always do.

Gump

Thanks, sci. Along with a few others who read my intent with some accuracy, I appreciate your words. I was merely telling stories and life events that I have found to be somewhat mind-numbing and a little inexplicable.And there's some truth about your comments where unilateral dishing out could occur yet men could never lash back because of the "sexual harassment" card. Well, guess what? The one gal at my workplace (reputed to be a lesbian and not at all agreeable) who is very combative with most people got verbally out of line with me at a training session in our conference room. Others heard the content of the exchange. I immediately marched to personnel and initiated a sexual harassment complaint against her. People who heard the exchange were interviewed and corroborated my story to a tee. (I had other negative one-way e-mails she sent to me that I had saved in a folder on my computer that I stapled onto the complaint). She has been disciplined for this and is "on-warning." I am only sorry she hasn't been fired. Thanks, guys, for understanding that I am relaying some experiences much the way someone would on a radio call-in show or something like that. After all, The Lounge is a medium much like that.

Gee, thanks. I can see that you've posted a fraction of what others here have, so you evidently don't know me very well. Homophobic....I don't think so. Moron...I think that's the LAST word any friend or co-worker would use to describe me yet, through cyberspace, you feel very qualified to do just that.I very explicitly said that my objection was NOT related to feminist/lesbian activity in bed or their affectional proclivities but rather how SOME treat other people, primarily men who may not be responsible for whatever some feminists/lesbians are angry about. I'm sorry, but my experiences with the IDENTIFIABLE angry feminist / probable lesbian persona have NOT been favorable. I don't project ANYTHING --- most people come up to me and tell me their life stories. Also, as an extremely naive 23 year old who hadn't a clue as to what a lesbian was at that time, the boss I had didn't have any vibes or projections to pick up on. Her callousness was so uniformly distributed and venomous that she was fired. If I am male, outspoken, overly educated, and fairly self-confident... and someone is threatened by the "vibes" that gives off, it sounds like it's their problem. Most people on this site engage in intelligent back and forth debate if that's where a thread goes. Calling me a homophobic moron might indicate you are not capable of operating on that level, but thanks for your input.

this line is killing me...I can hear it now.... is it vintage / classic Steely Dan, CSN or Moody Blues... help ...

Welcome back, Cali dude (via transplantation)!!!

I did, child, but you capitalized on it to make a play on words...haha... :AH-HA_wink:

Glad to see you posting, Chargerino!My response: net

No. It's not a gay thread. It's a lesbians thread. It was meant to be different, razor.

Damn, I wonder where you work that she still can keep her job. I'd like to see her ass on the sidewalk.

See, and how would I even know who was a feminine lesbian...I guess most of us would never know unless it was confided to us or reported with some credibility.

All right, most people who have been on the forum here know I am NOT crazy about lesbians. I am fairly indifferent to gay men. However, lesbians carry such negative energy that I can't dismiss it and thus dislike them. My first run-in with a lesbian was at a place of employment a few years after college in So. Cal. She was my immediate supervisor. I had NO clue she was a lesbian, but how quickly you learn. I just thought she was a woman who preferred short hair and had a thick, squatty frame. We would go to company sites and had to turn in expense reports upon returning from the trip. Even though there was a minimum below which you didn't have to itemize, I tend to be overly detail-oriented and I would itemize stuff like bridge tolls. The bitch called me into her office and said "I'll tell you once, I'll tell you twice, the third time you'll crawl." I would have never dreamed that someone in a professional setting would talk like that. She had a terrarium plant sitting there, which I dreamed of picking up, hurling at her face and ideally maiming her, but I restrained myself. With this very same sn*tc*, we had to go to Phoenix. She told me to call a number in Las Vegas and ask for Linda, pretending it was a wrong number. I did so. A mannish woman answered and, when I asked for Linda, this woman became angry. I said "you know...Linda...uhm...Martinson." She calmed down and told me I had the wrong number. Evidently, my lesbian boss had a thing for this Linda. She wound up going to Vegas for the intervening weekend. On Monday, I was told to get my luggage, leave the hotel in Phoenix and come back to L.A. since my boss, the lesbian, was in the hospital. (Evidently, she had been beaten up). She was EVIL on two legs. She was fired shortly thereafter. I have lived in both Seattle and Portland. These are lesbian meccas. Some of the lesbians up there are so unemotive, brittle and sullen. In fact, they seem so icy, I wonder how they even emote enough to show enough interest in another human being, regardless of gender. It's always the same up there: short hair, no make- up, clothes that are not flattering, Navajo type Indian jewelry and ...DRUM ROLL...the Subaru wagon. In fact, after flying up to Portland on Wednesday night, I said..."I've gotta do a lesbian thread" because I wound up sitting next to one. In fact, she had the seat assignment next to me but chose to sit elsewhere initially, coming back when the plane was filling up! She was probably in her mid 20s. I POLITELY asked if I could get through to use the bathroom. She scowled. I felt like telling her she was a "worthless carpet munching c**t who would go nowhere in life" but I refrained. Yet, on the public transportation to the suburbs to pick up a rental car, a chick in her mid 20s, obviously heterosexual, chooses to sit down next to me and talk to me ALL THE WAY to where I got off, telling me her life story...and I had just been sitting there with my luggage piled up in the back of the light rail car. Along the same lines, the only troublemaker in our firm, who is hated by everybody including the partners, from what I can see, is an angry but slender tomboyish lesbian. Bottom line: They suck....not for their sexual preference, but for their general behavior and treatment of others, particularly males. Therefore, I am NOT prejudging because I am discriminating based on a hostile and unsavory personality...the same way I would of any other person (male or female) who has a crappy personality. Also, if it's any consolation, the angry, unkempt and "rough around the edges" dyke doesn't go very far in life from what I can see. They work in print shops, warehouses and other jobs that won't allow them to make much of a difference in your life. OK, so: 1) contribute your lesbian gripe stories as you see fit, thanks to my plane ride and the Rosie O'Donnell thread that was started a few days ago, and 2) please do not hijack the thread toward the "gay male" direction since, on this forum, that tends to ignite things...so you are being forewarned.