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Good pics. All possible angles are covered. Don't YOU think the grille is a bit much? Same shape without being as tall and with less chrome impact would have been sweet.

Agreed. The basic 16" aluminum wheels should have been thrown in to the baseline car. Unbelievable. Good call on your part.

The age difference between you and I can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Che stronzetto ! And I fell in love with the even larger Cutlass Supreme of the 70s when I wasn't even old enough to drive!

A lot of people do f*c*ing idiotic things while driving. Several bother me. At the top of my list is this: 1. DOG OR CAT IN YOUR LAP, BETWEEN YOU AND STEERING WHEEL Good Gawd, if you love your animal, that is the LAST place you would put them. In those classes you can take (at least in CA) to hide moving violations, they tell you this. In an accident, the animal doesn't have a chance and will be flattened. Next ones for me: 2. Reading a book, like a paperback novel 3. Make up application There are others, but these lead my list. What irks you?

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Essentially, no changes, as we already know. The standard content has gone up to include the leather wheel, the tilt and telescope and a few other items. The optional package is $ 495, which includes (1) the folding rear seat, (2) the power lumbar, and (3) heated seats. I guess that's not SO bad, since the split rear seat cost $ 275 last M.Y. Comment on styling: the new front end is better but not THAT great. IMO, it is TOO tall for the front fascia and the chrome bars are too pronounced. The new shape is definitely the way it should have been, but it should have been a little more understated. Did not bother to get inside. It was 106 degrees in Sin City today and I have NO clue as to how my friend who moved here can stand it. Plus, I am noticing more and more "low life" on this trip here.

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Wow. I can be the biggest loudmouth and create a scene when need be (horrendous service, etc.) but would never see myself doing that...though it is very deadpan funny.

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Happy birthday, gents. Today, the 15th, right? Not yesterday. You both share a birthday with my Dad who let me know that he shared a birthday with Napoleon Bonaparte. With that being said, my Dad clearly had a Napoleonic complex as he was 5'-4" and ruled with an iron fist. He came up to the underside of my chin. Plus, Leos are cool, if you believe in that sort of thing , and are supposed to be in synch with us mid-December folks. ENJOY!!!

I was in Northern Calif. over the past weekend. I was in San Francisco one day. It is truly a beautiful city, if not one of the most beautiful in the world. One day and I start to feel claustrophobic and, after being in Europe, it's less compact than those cities, with the ability to pull over to a meter or parking spot being quite common, other than in the Financial District or by Fisherman's Wharf. I think I would tolerate the suburbs (notably Walnut Creek) better. Still expensive, the prices have come down some as it had become truly absurd and stuff wasn't selling that easily. Berkeley absolutely makes my hair stand on its ends. Any liberal college town full of hanger-on-ers seems to do that to me. But then, I thought, I'm a product of LA and I think I would tolerate that much better. Yeah, SF is more photogenic and the coastal areas are more wooded and picturesque. Flip side: those same coastal areas make for $h!ty beaches compared to those in LA which are usable and once you get a small ways inland, the suburbs are just as parched and dry-looking as those in Southern California. So, it would be So. Cal. for me. Which area do you like better, even if you haven't explored both fully?

You need to take a picture of THE GATE and post it! Wait, on second thought, it might make it easier for ocnblu to find you!

So, it's another London, basically, but with nice weather. My parents emigrated to Australia from Italy for 3 short years, returning to Europe and then moving to the states. They went to Melbourne because that's where fellow emigrants from the same town went. Their report was kind of "eh." It doesn't hold such pull for me, while I think it is probably an intriguing land. First, the 14 hour NONSTOP (yes, all of them) flight from LA is incomprehensible for my high strung personality. Second, I just went to London for the first time. The left-hand drive system leaves me completely disoriented, even when just walking around. Lastly, beaches chock full of sharks and some of the most lethal snakes and crocodiles assembled in one place. Yeah, I know, ignorance. If I get the chance, I will someday try to get to Sydney, at the very least. If I ever had to leave North America on a full-time basis, my choice would be Portugal...even more so than Italy. It's less hectic.

It doesn't bother me, but it makes me perplexed as to what I emit. Most of the time, I'm in my own world and someone interrupts my silence. Just yesterday, I got asked about train routes on Portland's light rail, and I was wearing a Montreal t-shirt, for God's sake. One day, when I did live up here in the mid-90s, I got asked directions on the way to work, during my lunch hour and going home from work. THREE times in a day. The funniest: - asked for directions in Buenos Aires in November 2005 when I went to South America - asked for directions in Munich, Germany while walking through a rural suburb last month How about you? Do people approach you out of the clear blue sky? For directions? For other odd reasons?

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You'll get over it. LOL. Any populated place is Europe is WORK.My vote: small towns in Quebec, north and east of Montreal. SOOOOOO peaceful. But you have to speak frog.

Weird, in that the Series I is the workhorse of workhorses and yours has some issues. I have 237,500 miles on mine, is as quiet as when it was new, and that's why I am hesitant to buy even a demo or lease return...only new, $h!, I've waited enough. I research vehicles and powertrains to death, break them in gently, do a break in oil and then do oil every 2,000 to 2,500 from then on. Trans fluid is changed every 20,000, even if it doesn't need it. I need to have peace of mind. Still, there are NO guarantees. But my program of "overmaintenance" has always paid off thus far.

Maureen McCormick was Marcia Brady, for you younger members who may not know. In the 70s and 80s, that look was an LA mainstay, practically a dime a dozen. Nowadays, in LA, you don't see anybody like that. So where are they? The same is true in Portland. In the last 10 years, WASPY pissy little Portland (I hate Northwesterners) doesn't look as white and pissy as it did 10 years ago. I know where the Maureen McCormicks are. In Chico and places like that, which is where I happen to be today en route to Sacramento. The third tier tiny cities of the West are where those people apparently now reside, unless they live in the spendy neighborhoods of the urban areas they didn't leave (Bellevue WA, Lake Oswego OR, the foothill suburbs of Sacto and Orange or Ventura Counties instead of Los Angeles County proper). What are the major demographic shifts taking place in your area? Where have Greg and Marcia moved to?

WMJ, you think like me! I pity you, just kidding! LOVED that Grand Prix and LOVED the dash. Pontiac has always done a better job with dashes than other GM divisions. Add to the 1981 to 1987 Grand Prix the 1981 to 1987 RWD Cutlass Supreme coupe, preferably in small-block V8 form.

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True.And, in response to Ven's comment above, Cadillac has more things to go wrong, considering the number of simpler LaCrosses and Lucernes that help kick Buick up a little bit. I am sure that a lot of the problems are in the more esoteric accessories. Incidentally, back to my prolonged W body acquisition, I showed the THREE to my Mom and she liked the LaCrosse the best. She said it was more timeless. Also, as I drove down the length of Oregon yesterday into NorCal, I was paralleling a Park Avenue (of vintage similar to that of Ven's) but in the pearl white extra cost paint. I was relieved to see a "zipper head" type lady (Cher look alike, kind of earthy), driving this car, with 2 kids in the back and no bumper stickers. She would have looked quite at home in a Subaru, yet she was piloting a P.A., and this put a smile on my face. The earthy crunchy liberals are so fixated that a foreign nameplate MUST be better, thereby adding to their packaged approach to life. I think that, even if you rammed these studies in their faces, they would still keep buying those brands appropriate to their image.

You're not kidding. It is an absolutely beautiful car, not only in looks but in ride, handling and such...especially for FWD packaging.The Consumer Reports dots don't seem to report problems with the 3.5 V6 (post 2000) though I would always prefer a 3800, simply because it's a known quantity to me. If you like the car, and have to go used, then do it. Make sure you keep a spare $ 1000 or so aside for an intake manifold or other problem on any Intrigue having over 75,000 miles...or any other car with that many miles.

I didn't catch how many miles on the current Lumina. I just left the shop here in Portland with new plug wires. The Regal is starting to be frayed, but I get 29 and 27 mpg up to Seattle and back on Monday. I'm feeling a lot less attached to it, lately. Have the other 2 choices checked thoroughly before you pop for them. You may have a hidden repair on those though the Impy will have a good motor (probably a 5 or 5.7 V8 and RWD) and the 3800 should be Series I which means no intake manifold issues. The best thing to do is create 3 columns for the 3 cars with estimated cash flows for repairs, purchase price and sales price upon exit, then make up your mind. If they are close, you can be somewhat steered by emotion. Does this mean I should cross a new MC with a 3500 VVT V6 (born out of the 3400) off my list? What's your take on that? Let us know what you decide.

skanky bitch sorry, just too clean-cut to find any of these musician/tabloid bitches even minimally worthwhile

I tend to agree with you. The rear was a real turn off, with the lamps sharing the same shape as the Mitsubishi 3000 2 seater of about 10 years ago. The dash is a repeat of sooo many dashboards. Credit to the front end for general restraint and good taste.I keep saying over and over that if the GP had gotten a better make over than it did in 2004 and it were RWD, it might have fetched more aficionados. Instead, it alientated people from the 97-03 run, except for the fleet crowds. The best thing about it is sitting behind its provocatively shaped dash which will be ho-hum in the upcoming G8.